From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Fri Feb 1 12:38:48 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 17:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Coyote intake dyno results References: <863317662.1634188.1549042728945.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <863317662.1634188.1549042728945@mail.yahoo.com> Interesting read for those putting Coyote engines in their Panteras or who have late model Mustangs... "Modified Mustangs and Fords" magazine dyno'd every Ford Coyote intake manifold on a Gen-3 Crate engine...http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/dyno-every-ford-coyote-intake-manifold-on-gen-3-crate/ -------------- next part -------------- Interesting read for those putting Coyote engines in their Panteras or who have late model Mustangs... "Modified Mustangs and Fords" magazine dyno'd every Ford Coyote intake manifold on a Gen-3 Crate engine... [1]http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/dyno-every-ford-coyote- intake-manifold-on-gen-3-crate/ References 1. http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/dyno-every-ford-coyote-intake-manifold-on-gen-3-crate/ From fresnofinches at aol.com Fri Feb 1 22:36:27 2019 From: fresnofinches at aol.com (Larry Finch) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 19:36:27 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of dyno testing Message-ID: <5B4F679E-4B8D-4C06-971A-CC28F913822E@aol.com> All, When 2511 returns to the road, this is the new 404C that will provide the motivation. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image3.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 131910 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- 4-bolt iron block .010 over, CHI 4V heads, Blue Thunder intake, blueprinted Holley 670 Avenger, Bullet hydraulic roller and lifters, GTS headers and mufflers. My goals were a smooth idle, street-friendly, low-end torque, 425-450 HP engine. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image4.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 117049 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Goals met. :-) Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. From asajay at asajay.com Fri Feb 1 22:46:42 2019 From: asajay at asajay.com (Asa Jay Laughton) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 19:46:42 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Spare tire hold down? In-Reply-To: <223933ED-A072-4C62-9B33-9A054FC54689@aol.com> References: <223933ED-A072-4C62-9B33-9A054FC54689@aol.com> Message-ID: As I recall from memory, mine was like the Ford parts book photo (traditional wingnut).? My car was 5533 now owned by Steve Lisa. Asa? Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** http://w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 1/31/2019 16:47, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > Guys, > > Some Panteras (later L-models I think?) came with a molded-in nut at the bottom of the spare tire well, to accommodate a hold-down. The drawing in the De Tomaso parts book looks just like this Maserati hold-down: > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > The Ford parts book shows a different looking part, and Wilkinson has it pictured thusly: > > > > Can somebody who has a stock, original hold-down share photos please? > > Thanks! > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- As I recall from memory, mine was like the Ford parts book photo (traditional wingnut). My car was 5533 now owned by Steve Lisa. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 1/31/2019 16:47, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: Guys, Some Panteras (later L-models I think?) came with a molded-in nut at the bottom of the spare tire well, to accommodate a hold-down. The drawing in the De Tomaso parts book looks just like this Maserati hold-down: --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. [3]https://www.avg.com The Ford parts book shows a different looking part, and Wilkinson has it picture d thusly: Can somebody who has a stock, original hold-down share photos please? Thanks! Mike Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li nks above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis t messages. References 1. http://w7tsc.org/ 2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 3. https://www.avg.com/ 4. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From stevelisa at patentit.com Sat Feb 2 01:01:05 2019 From: stevelisa at patentit.com (Steve Lisa) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:01:05 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Spare tire hold down? In-Reply-To: References: <223933ED-A072-4C62-9B33-9A054FC54689@aol.com> Message-ID: Can someone send me a link to the image? I will check SN5533 on Monday. I am not sure what I am looking for. Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 www.PatentIt.com *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656 | *F:* 480.535.6628 | *A:* 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357 | *F:* 312.896.5633 | *A:* 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error, please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 8:46 PM Asa Jay Laughton wrote: > As I recall from memory, mine was like the Ford parts book photo > (traditional wingnut). My car was 5533 now owned by Steve Lisa. > Asa Jay > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired > Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager > ****************************** > [1]http://w7tsc.org > [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com > > On 1/31/2019 16:47, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > > Guys, > > Some Panteras (later L-models I think?) came with a molded-in nut at the > bottom > of the spare tire well, to accommodate a hold-down. The drawing in the De > Tomaso > parts book looks just like this Maserati hold-down: > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > [3]https://www.avg.com > > > The Ford parts book shows a different looking part, and Wilkinson has it > picture > d thusly: > > > > Can somebody who has a stock, original hold-down share photos please? > > Thanks! > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the li > nks above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message p > osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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Regards,A Steven G. Lisa, Esq. The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA Direct: 312-320-5888 [1]www.PatentIt.com Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error, please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 8:46 PM Asa Jay Laughton <[2]asajay at asajay.com> wrote: A A As I recall from memory, mine was like the Ford parts book photo A A (traditional wingnut).A My car was 5533 now owned by Steve Lisa. A A AsaA Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** [1][3]http://w7tsc.org [2][4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com A A On 1/31/2019 16:47, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: Guys, Some Panteras (later L-models I think?) came with a molded-in nut at the bottom of the spare tire well, to accommodate a hold-down. The drawing in the De Tomaso A parts book looks just like this Maserati hold-down: --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. [3][5]https://www.avg.com The Ford parts book shows a different looking part, and Wilkinson has it picture d thusly: Can somebody who has a stock, original hold-down share photos please? Thanks! Mike Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4][6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [5][7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li nks above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis t messages. References A A 1. [8]http://w7tsc.org/ A A 2. [9]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ A A 3. [10]https://www.avg.com/ A A 4. mailto:[11]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com A A 5. [12]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [13]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://www.patentit.com/ 2. mailto:asajay at asajay.com 3. http://w7tsc.org/ 4. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 5. https://www.avg.com/ 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. http://w7tsc.org/ 9. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 10. https://www.avg.com/ 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From asajay at asajay.com Sat Feb 2 10:35:44 2019 From: asajay at asajay.com (Asa Jay Laughton) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 07:35:44 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Spare tire hold down? In-Reply-To: References: <223933ED-A072-4C62-9B33-9A054FC54689@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, It's the hold-down bolt used with the spare tire.?? It's a long bolt, maybe eight inches or so, with a larger classic wing-nut on the end.? It's used with a small four inch or so concave disk to hold down the collapsible spare tire in the fiberglass tub. I sent a photo of it to the list last night but it was probably over-size so it won't get posted.? If I get some gumption today I'll re-size the photo and send again. Asa? Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** http://w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 2/1/2019 22:01, Steve Lisa wrote: > Can someone send me a link to the image?? I will check SN5533 on > Monday.? I am not sure what I am looking for. > Regards,? > > Steven G. Lisa, Esq. > *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* > Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com? > Direct: 312-320-5888 > > www.PatentIt.com > > *_Scottsdale Office_*?|?*P*:?480.535.6656? |??*F:*?480.535.6628? > |??*A:*?7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 > > *_Chicago Office_?*|*?P:*312.752.4357? |? *F:*312.896.5633? |? *A:* 55 > E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 > > This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain > confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in > error, please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. > Thank you. > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 8:46 PM Asa Jay Laughton > wrote: > > ? ?As I recall from memory, mine was like the Ford parts book photo > ? ?(traditional wingnut).? My car was 5533 now owned by Steve Lisa. > ? ?Asa? Jay > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired > Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager > ****************************** > [1]http://w7tsc.org > [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com > > ? ?On 1/31/2019 16:47, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > > Guys, > > Some Panteras (later L-models I think?) came with a molded-in nut > at the bottom > of the spare tire well, to accommodate a hold-down. The drawing in > the De Tomaso > ?parts book looks just like this Maserati hold-down: > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > [3]https://www.avg.com > > > The Ford parts book shows a different looking part, and Wilkinson > has it picture > d thusly: > > > > Can somebody who has a stock, original hold-down share photos please? > > Thanks! > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) use the li > nks above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message p > osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant > the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the > archiving of lis > t messages. > > References > > ? ?1. http://w7tsc.org/ > ? ?2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ > ? ?3. https://www.avg.com/ > ? ?4. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > ? ?5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- Hi Steve, It's the hold-down bolt used with the spare tire. It's a long bolt, maybe eight inches or so, with a larger classic wing-nut on the end. It's used with a small four inch or so concave disk to hold down the collapsible spare tire in the fiberglass tub. I sent a photo of it to the list last night but it was probably over-size so it won't get posted. If I get some gumption today I'll re-size the photo and send again. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 2/1/2019 22:01, Steve Lisa wrote: Can someone send me a link to the image? I will check SN5533 on Monday. I am not sure what I am looking for. Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC Email: [3]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 [4]www.PatentIt.com Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656 | F: 480.535.6628 | A: 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357 | F: 312.896.5633 | A: 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error, please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 8:46 PM Asa Jay Laughton <[5]asajay at asajay.com> wrote: As I recall from memory, mine was like the Ford parts book photo (traditional wingnut). My car was 5533 now owned by Steve Lisa. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** [1][6]http://w7tsc.org [2][7]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 1/31/2019 16:47, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: Guys, Some Panteras (later L-models I think?) came with a molded-in nut at the bottom of the spare tire well, to accommodate a hold-down. The drawing in the De Tomaso parts book looks just like this Maserati hold-down: --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. [3][8]https://www.avg.com The Ford parts book shows a different looking part, and Wilkinson has it picture d thusly: Can somebody who has a stock, original hold-down share photos please? Thanks! 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[18]www.avg.com References Visible links 1. http://w7tsc.org/ 2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 3. mailto:SteveLisa at PatentIt.com 4. http://www.patentit.com/ 5. mailto:asajay at asajay.com 6. http://w7tsc.org/ 7. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 8. https://www.avg.com/ 9. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 10. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 11. http://w7tsc.org/ 12. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 13. https://www.avg.com/ 14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 18. http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient Hidden links: 20. http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient 21. file://localhost/tmp/tmpUi49w3.html#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2 From asajay at asajay.com Sat Feb 2 10:40:45 2019 From: asajay at asajay.com (Asa Jay Laughton) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 07:40:45 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Spare tire hold down? Message-ID: Reduced the photo size. Asa? Jay -- Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager ****************************** http://w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My goals were a smooth idle, street-friendly, low-end torque, 425-450 HP engine. [cid:98107db0-1258-4e1a-97bc-b6b771fef308 at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] Goals met. :-) Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Very nice, did you tackle the build yourself? __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 7:36 PM To: Email List Address For Posting Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of dyno testing All, When 2511 returns to the road, this is the new 404C that will provide the motivation. [cid:0f20b4d8-bac8-4fb4-abe2-fb875d0f42cc at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] 4-bolt iron block .010 over, CHI 4V heads, Blue Thunder intake, blueprinted Holley 670 Avenger, Bullet hydraulic roller and lifters, GTS headers and mufflers. My goals were a smooth idle, street-friendly, low-end torque, 425-450 HP engine. 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I bought an extra set last decade and it's not a fancy job, I just wasn't expecting it, and frankly I'm a little shook because of how dangerous it is to drive a car that way. sean -- Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso From willibillie at live.de Sat Feb 2 13:35:01 2019 From: willibillie at live.de (Roland) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:35:01 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] checking out a car in West Babylon NY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Folks, Is any one in the group, who could check out a classic car in West Babylon NY for me. Thanks, Roland Jaeckel From byrdjf at embarqmail.com Sat Feb 2 14:32:43 2019 From: byrdjf at embarqmail.com (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 14:32:43 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower ball joints In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d4bb2e$123e0090$36ba01b0$@com> While the failure could be the result of poor quality of the part, I would wonder it there may be something with the installed fit that is contributing. Joe -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Sean Korb Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 12:44 PM To: DeTomaso Mail List Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower ball joints #1382 has sess than 40k miles on the clock but I was changing out my front calipers this morning and discovered.... I have bad front lower ball joints. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sat Feb 2 17:19:42 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 14:19:42 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower ball joints In-Reply-To: <000001d4bb2e$123e0090$36ba01b0$@com> References: <000001d4bb2e$123e0090$36ba01b0$@com> Message-ID: <1F125646-6048-49AD-974B-12023894DB60@aol.com> Joe, I routinely help people replace all their ball joints and A arm bushings because people buy complete kits. Honestly, I have only ever seen the lower front balljoints go bad. Every upper front and rear balljoints I have changed out has still been perfectly good, apart from the rubber boot. If I was on a budget I would only buy lower fronts, plus new boots for the uppers. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 2, 2019, at 11:32, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. wrote: > > While the failure could be the result of poor quality of the part, I would > wonder it there may be something with the installed fit that is > contributing. > Joe > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of Sean Korb > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 12:44 PM > To: DeTomaso Mail List > Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower ball joints > > #1382 has sess than 40k miles on the clock but I was changing out my front > calipers this morning and discovered.... I have bad front lower ball joints. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sat Feb 2 17:34:35 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 14:34:35 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower ball joints In-Reply-To: <1F125646-6048-49AD-974B-12023894DB60@aol.com> References: <000001d4bb2e$123e0090$36ba01b0$@com> <1F125646-6048-49AD-974B-12023894DB60@aol.com> Message-ID: ...and FWIW, while I have seen many A-arm bushings whose visible portions were suffering from rotting and cracking, inevitably when changing them out I find that the areas that are doing the actual work are still perfectly fine. I have only seen one car that arguably ?needed? new A-arm bushings and it had almost 200k on it! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 2, 2019, at 14:19, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > > Joe, > > I routinely help people replace all their ball joints and A arm bushings because people buy complete kits. Honestly, I have only ever seen the lower front balljoints go bad. Every upper front and rear balljoints I have changed out has still been perfectly good, apart from the rubber boot. > > If I was on a budget I would only buy lower fronts, plus new boots for the uppers. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 2, 2019, at 11:32, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. wrote: >> >> While the failure could be the result of poor quality of the part, I would >> wonder it there may be something with the installed fit that is >> contributing. >> Joe >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf >> Of Sean Korb >> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 12:44 PM >> To: DeTomaso Mail List >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower ball joints >> >> #1382 has sess than 40k miles on the clock but I was changing out my front >> calipers this morning and discovered.... I have bad front lower ball joints. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From sobill1133 at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 13:55:24 2019 From: sobill1133 at gmail.com (William Taylor) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:55:24 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams Message-ID: I would like to turn the maintenance/improvement of the Pantera Electrical Diagrams (hosted on Pantera Place by Mike Dailey) to a forum member. I will happy to transfer the original CAD files and the PDF release files and will assist with any questions. Not much actually needs to done on a regular basis for this task, but someone new needs to carry the diagrams forward. SOBill Taylor sobill1133 at gmail.com -- The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. Do the best you can with what you have where you are. Eat dessert first, life is uncertain. -------------- next part -------------- I would like to turn the maintenance/improvement of the Pantera Electrical Diagrams (hosted on Pantera Place by Mike Dailey) to a forum member. I will happy to transfer the original CAD files and the PDF release files and will assist with any questions. Not much actually needs to done on a regular basis for this task, but someone new needs to carry the diagrams forward. SOBill TaylorA A [1]sobill1133 at gmail.com -- The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. Do the best you can with what you have where you are. Eat dessert first, life is uncertain. References 1. mailto:sobill1133 at gmail.com From kenn_green at yahoo.com Wed Feb 6 14:45:25 2019 From: kenn_green at yahoo.com (Ken Green) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation References: <542736573.4174781.1549482325671.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <542736573.4174781.1549482325671@mail.yahoo.com> This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single inoculation. I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a pharmacist.? He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or 3 days.? I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other shot. If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work Monday.? Have ibuprofen on hand.? Ken -------------- next part -------------- This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single inoculation. I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other shot. If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work Monday. Have ibuprofen on hand. Ken From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 6 14:53:39 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:53:39 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: <542736573.4174781.1549482325671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <542736573.4174781.1549482325671.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <542736573.4174781.1549482325671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <23EFCDF6-6218-4438-B903-BA634D027068@jpl.nasa.gov> Also, I was told by my doctor, if you've had Shingles (which I have) don't get this inoculation. PS - You DO NOT want to get Shingles. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/6/19, 11:45 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" wrote: This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single inoculation. I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other shot. If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work Monday. Have ibuprofen on hand. Ken From coxmichaelt at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 21:06:59 2019 From: coxmichaelt at gmail.com (Michael Cox) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 18:06:59 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Message-ID: Ken said: > I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday > from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty > hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot > or any other shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox -------------- next part -------------- Ken said: >A I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday > from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty > hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot > or any other shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox From kenn_green at yahoo.com Wed Feb 6 22:39:35 2019 From: kenn_green at yahoo.com (Ken Green) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 03:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> Without insurance $200 each time.? My insurance had a $43 co-pay, the pharmacist said my wife's insurance didn't cover it, maybe because I'm over 65 and she is 62. From: Michael Cox To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation ? Ken said: ? >A I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday ? > from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty ? > hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot ? > or any other shot. ? Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be ? available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is ? expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. ? --michael cox _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Without insurance $200 each time. My insurance had a $43 co-pay, the pharmacist said my wife's insurance didn't cover it, maybe because I'm over 65 and she is 62. __________________________________________________________________ From: Michael Cox To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Ken said: >A I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday > from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty > hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot > or any other shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [1]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From steve at snclocks.com Wed Feb 6 22:40:21 2019 From: steve at snclocks.com (Steve) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:40:21 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: <542736573.4174781.1549482325671@mail.yahoo.com> References: <542736573.4174781.1549482325671.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <542736573.4174781.1549482325671@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ed01d4be96$daaa1b20$8ffe5160$@snclocks.com> Wow - Ken - sorry to hear the vaccine hit you so hard! I put in a hard workout after getting my first one, was sore for a bit, but by the next day, three was 3 inch diameter red rash but no soreness. Be interesting to see how others fare - but definitely, get it behind you! Stephen -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:45 AM To: List DeTomaso Forum Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single inoculation. I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other shot. If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work Monday. Have ibuprofen on hand. Ken From gt40 at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 6 23:08:02 2019 From: gt40 at sbcglobal.net (gt40 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 20:08:02 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" In-Reply-To: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air this Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel 281. Enjoy! John *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? Curious. From doug351c at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 23:23:08 2019 From: doug351c at gmail.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 20:23:08 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008f01d4be9c$d47bb640$7d7322c0$@gmail.com> SOBill, What type of CAD files are they? Doug Braun Blue 73L #5505 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of William Taylor Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 10:55 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams I would like to turn the maintenance/improvement of the Pantera Electrical Diagrams (hosted on Pantera Place by Mike Dailey) to a forum member. I will happy to transfer the original CAD files and the PDF release files and will assist with any questions. Not much actually needs to done on a regular basis for this task, but someone new needs to carry the diagrams forward. SOBill Taylor sobill1133 at gmail.com -- The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. Do the best you can with what you have where you are. Eat dessert first, life is uncertain. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 6 23:25:52 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 04:25:52 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams In-Reply-To: <008f01d4be9c$d47bb640$7d7322c0$@gmail.com> References: <008f01d4be9c$d47bb640$7d7322c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1DA519D1-0B62-4072-BCBA-A7A9AC44AE66@jpl.nasa.gov> If they are AutoCAD remember that software ONLY works on Windoze! "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/6/19, 8:23 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Doug" wrote: SOBill, What type of CAD files are they? Doug Braun Blue 73L #5505 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of William Taylor Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 10:55 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams I would like to turn the maintenance/improvement of the Pantera Electrical Diagrams (hosted on Pantera Place by Mike Dailey) to a forum member. I will happy to transfer the original CAD files and the PDF release files and will assist with any questions. Not much actually needs to done on a regular basis for this task, but someone new needs to carry the diagrams forward. SOBill Taylor sobill1133 at gmail.com -- The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. Do the best you can with what you have where you are. Eat dessert first, life is uncertain. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Thu Feb 7 01:01:04 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:01:04 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jim Demick > Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST > To: dtomasocat at aol.com > Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > Pantera Enthusiasts, > > Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). > > Enjoy! > > https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o > > Best regards, > > Jim Demick > Panteras of New Mexico -------------- next part -------------- Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Demick <[1]dtomasocat at aol.com> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST To: [2]dtomasocat at aol.com Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Pantera Enthusiasts, Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). Enjoy! [3]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o Best regards, Jim Demick Panteras of New Mexico References 1. mailto:dtomasocat at aol.com 2. mailto:dtomasocat at aol.com 3. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o From gt40 at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 7 01:37:22 2019 From: gt40 at sbcglobal.net (gt40 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:37:22 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: "It has the small bumpers?!" -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM To: De Tomaso Forum Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jim Demick > Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST > To: dtomasocat at aol.com > Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > Pantera Enthusiasts, > > Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to > watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this > program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment > (although that ends up being a surprise too!). > > Enjoy! > > https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o > > Best regards, > > Jim Demick > Panteras of New Mexico _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From charlesmccall at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 02:04:06 2019 From: charlesmccall at gmail.com (Charles McCall) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 12:34:06 +0530 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? Why not? On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: > "It has the small bumpers?!" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM > To: De Tomaso Forum > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > Guys, > > Word from Jim Demick.... > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Jim Demick > > Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST > > To: dtomasocat at aol.com > > Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > > > Pantera Enthusiasts, > > > > Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to > > watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this > > program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment > > (although that ends up being a surprise too!). > > > > Enjoy! > > > > https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o > > > > Best regards, > > > > Jim Demick > > Panteras of New Mexico > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > -------------- next part -------------- I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well.A Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? Why not?A On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM <[1]gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote: "It has the small bumpers?!" -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM To: De Tomaso Forum Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jim Demick <[2]dtomasocat at aol.com> > Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST > To: [3]dtomasocat at aol.com > Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > Pantera Enthusiasts, > > Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to > watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this > program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment > (although that ends up being a surprise too!). > > Enjoy! > > [4]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o > > Best regards, > > Jim Demick > Panteras of New Mexico _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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References 1. mailto:gt40 at sbcglobal.net 2. mailto:dtomasocat at aol.com 3. mailto:dtomasocat at aol.com 4. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o 5. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From cuvee at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 7 06:05:28 2019 From: cuvee at sbcglobal.net (Curt Hall) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 11:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <230008874.4521564.1549537528606@mail.yahoo.com> My Doc didn't the Shots available? Went to Walgreen's they didn't them either? So I'm still waiting! Luck Me! LOL... On Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 7:39:52 PM PST, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote: ? Without insurance $200 each time.? My insurance had a $43 co-pay, the ? pharmacist said my wife's insurance didn't cover it, maybe because I'm ? over 65 and she is 62. ? ? __________________________________________________________________ ? From: Michael Cox ? To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com ? Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:07 PM ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation ? ? Ken said: ? ? >A I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday ? ? > from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty ? ? > hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot ? ? > or any other shot. ? ? Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be ? ? available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is ? ? expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. ? ? --michael cox ? _______________________________________________ ? Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA ? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes ? 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- My Doc didn't the Shots available? Went to Walgreen's they didn't them either? So I'm still waiting! Luck Me! LOL... On Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 7:39:52 PM PST, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote: Without insurance $200 each time. My insurance had a $43 co-pay, the pharmacist said my wife's insurance didn't cover it, maybe because I'm over 65 and she is 62. __________________________________________________________________ From: Michael Cox <[1]coxmichaelt at gmail.com> To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Ken said: >A I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday > from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty > hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot > or any other shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [1][3]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [2][4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:[5]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. 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References 1. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com 2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From cengles at cox.net Thu Feb 7 08:42:57 2019 From: cengles at cox.net (Charles Engles) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 07:42:57 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> Dear Charlie, Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? Why not? On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: > "It has the small bumpers?!" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM > To: De Tomaso Forum > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > Guys, > > Word from Jim Demick.... > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Jim Demick > > Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST > > To: dtomasocat at aol.com > > Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > > > Pantera Enthusiasts, > > > > Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply > > have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera > > featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside > > the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). > > > > Enjoy! > > > > https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o > > > > Best regards, > > > > Jim Demick > > Panteras of New Mexico > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > From cengles at cox.net Thu Feb 7 08:47:43 2019 From: cengles at cox.net (Charles Engles) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 07:47:43 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001901d4beeb$b3e10e90$1ba32bb0$@cox.net> Dear Michael and Forum, The new shingles vaccine is pricey, but given that *most* POCA members are at risk to develop shingles---compared to a single trip to the ER and/or to the weeks and months of doctor visits and pain medications of narcotic and non-narcotic type----its price is a pittance. I took the old shingles vaccine and need to follow my own advice and take the new one. Thanks for the reminder. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cox Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:07 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Ken said: > I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from > a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 > or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other > shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox From fun_tonyb at hotmail.com Thu Feb 7 09:31:38 2019 From: fun_tonyb at hotmail.com (Tony Blevins) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:31:38 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift Message-ID: Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? Thanks, Tony -------------- next part -------------- Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? Thanks, Tony From MikeLDrew at aol.com Thu Feb 7 09:58:15 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 06:58:15 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> Tony, Single post lift? The old-fashioned kind from the days of our youth? You will be hard-pressed to find one today. I don?t think anybody has ever offered them to the hobbyist market. You would have to find a business that is closing down or something like that. They are expensive to install since it requires extensive concrete work to create the pit for the long post? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2019, at 06:31, Tony Blevins wrote: > > Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to > share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? > > Thanks, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Thu Feb 7 10:08:44 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:08:44 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift In-Reply-To: <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> References: <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> Message-ID: <17AB4227-2B01-4155-BE5C-FDC1DDD5EDC0@jpl.nasa.gov> Plus, just so you know. That cylinder that goes into the ground, requires oil which must be protected and to-code to pass any environmental concerns. VERY expensive. I know because we just wrote a $23,000 check to replace a similar elevator cylinder in our housing complex. It probably will be double that when done. (run away, run away) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/7/19, 6:58 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" wrote: Tony, Single post lift? The old-fashioned kind from the days of our youth? You will be hard-pressed to find one today. I don?t think anybody has ever offered them to the hobbyist market. You would have to find a business that is closing down or something like that. They are expensive to install since it requires extensive concrete work to create the pit for the long post? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2019, at 06:31, Tony Blevins wrote: > > Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to > share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? > > Thanks, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From julian_kift at hotmail.com Thu Feb 7 10:18:51 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:18:51 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift In-Reply-To: <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> References: , <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> Message-ID: Unless of course he means a modern style single post lift, which seem to gaining in popularity as a parking lift over the traditional 4 post design for obvious real estate reasons. https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/ Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:58 AM To: Tony Blevins Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift Tony, Single post lift? The old-fashioned kind from the days of our youth? You will be hard-pressed to find one today. I don?t think anybody has ever offered them to the hobbyist market. You would have to find a business that is closing down or something like that. They are expensive to install since it requires extensive concrete work to create the pit for the long post? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2019, at 06:31, Tony Blevins wrote: > > Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to > share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? > > Thanks, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Unless of course he means a modern style single post lift, which seem to gaining in popularity as a parking lift over the traditional 4 post design for obvious real estate reasons. [1]https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/ Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:58 AM To: Tony Blevins Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift Tony, Single post lift? The old-fashioned kind from the days of our youth? You will be hard-pressed to find one today. I don't think anybody has ever offered them to the hobbyist market. You would have to find a business that is closing down or something like that. They are expensive to install since it requires extensive concrete work to create the pit for the long post? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2019, at 06:31, Tony Blevins wrote: > > Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to > share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? > > Thanks, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/ 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From steve at snclocks.com Thu Feb 7 10:41:36 2019 From: steve at snclocks.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 07:41:36 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005301d4befb$9c8026e0$d58074a0$@snclocks.com> I'm guessing you are referring to the lifts with a single post to one side - like the one we installed 7 years ago. WE LOVE IT! I did most of the restoration work on 5332 on this lift. One post to one side, no posts at each corner. Here is a link to some pictures of our garage... https://www.snclocks.com/TheRestofourWorld/Autos/RenovatedGarage/ Ours is a Gemini SP-4. Gemini seems to be out of business. Here is a link to a source: https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/ I believe they made the lifts for Gemini... As I recall, you are talking like $6 or 7K. The thing we would have done differently, if we had thought of it, would have been to bury the base metal in a trough like 4 inches deep. As it is, we drive over the hump when parking under a car up on the lift. Not a problem really, but would be nicer with the base flush with the floor. We also have a BendPak 4 post lift. It works, but honestly, it showed up with a lot of scratches and dings - and we got no sympathy out of Bendpak. They may sell a good lift, but their "preferred" (which translates to cheap) shipper and customer support sucks. I'd go with Greg Smith if you are looking for a 2 or 4 post lift. Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Tony Blevins Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:32 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? Thanks, Tony From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Thu Feb 7 10:43:55 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:43:55 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift In-Reply-To: References: <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> Message-ID: <87EA375A-353F-4A07-B14C-2A701BF89A7E@jpl.nasa.gov> Ouuuu! that is nice! "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/7/19, 7:19 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift" wrote: Unless of course he means a modern style single post lift, which seem to gaining in popularity as a parking lift over the traditional 4 post design for obvious real estate reasons. https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/ Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:58 AM To: Tony Blevins Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift Tony, Single post lift? The old-fashioned kind from the days of our youth? You will be hard-pressed to find one today. I don?t think anybody has ever offered them to the hobbyist market. You would have to find a business that is closing down or something like that. They are expensive to install since it requires extensive concrete work to create the pit for the long post? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2019, at 06:31, Tony Blevins wrote: > > Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any advice to > share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? > > Thanks, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From spkorb at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 10:58:22 2019 From: spkorb at gmail.com (Sean Korb) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:58:22 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift In-Reply-To: References: <4F5654C7-5CEC-4C01-8BBF-675EB673D1D2@aol.com> Message-ID: Hm. I have a big old (like, 50 years) 3 ton Gray bumper jack, maybe I could use it to lift my 1200lb Fiat and roll my tools under it. On 2/7/19, Julian Kift wrote: > Unless of course he means a modern style single post lift, which seem > to gaining in popularity as a parking lift over the traditional 4 post > design for obvious real estate reasons. > > [1]https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/ > > Julian > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: DeTomaso on behalf of > Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:58 AM > To: Tony Blevins > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Single Post Lift > > Tony, > Single post lift? The old-fashioned kind from the days of our youth? > You will be hard-pressed to find one today. I don't think anybody has > ever offered them to the hobbyist market. You would have to find a > business that is closing down or something like that. They are > expensive to install since it requires extensive concrete work to > create the pit for the long post? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 06:31, Tony Blevins wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, I'm looking for a single-post lift. Anyone have any > advice to > > share on brands/sources - both good and bad ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tony > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Picasso From julian_kift at hotmail.com Thu Feb 7 12:00:19 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 17:00:19 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: <001901d4beeb$b3e10e90$1ba32bb0$@cox.net> References: , <001901d4beeb$b3e10e90$1ba32bb0$@cox.net> Message-ID: I have visions of a TV commercial; Have you or a loved one died from or suffered unnecessary pain from the shingles virus? It is has been proven that *most* POCA members are at risk of contracting the virus, this is significantly higher than the national average! We believe POCA needs to be held accountable for it's actions and negligence regarding shingles, contact us immediately for a free assessment of your eligibility in this class action lawsuit. Meanwhile, POCA's answer to reduce apparent solvency is to 'invest' most of the organizations accumulated funds in hotel rooms in Las Vegas on a guaranteed fill rate for an obscure date when no one will show up. On a more serious note I feel for anyone whom has suffered through the pain of shingles, I understand it is a particularly nasty little bugger. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Charles Engles Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:47 AM To: 'Michael Cox'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Dear Michael and Forum, The new shingles vaccine is pricey, but given that *most* POCA members are at risk to develop shingles---compared to a single trip to the ER and/or to the weeks and months of doctor visits and pain medications of narcotic and non-narcotic type----its price is a pittance. I took the old shingles vaccine and need to follow my own advice and take the new one. Thanks for the reminder. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cox Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:07 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Ken said: > I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from > a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 > or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other > shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I have visions of a TV commercial; Have you or a loved one died from or suffered unnecessary pain from the shingles virus? It is has been proven that *most* POCA members are at risk of contracting the virus, this is significantly higher than the national average! We believe POCA needs to be held accountable for it's actions and negligence regarding shingles, contact us immediately for a free assessment of your eligibility in this class action lawsuit. Meanwhile, POCA's answer to reduce apparent solvency is to 'invest' most of the organizations accumulated funds in hotel rooms in Las Vegas on a guaranteed fill rate for an obscure date when no one will show up. On a more serious note I feel for anyone whom has suffered through the pain of shingles, I understand it is a particularly nasty little bugger. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Charles Engles Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:47 AM To: 'Michael Cox'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Dear Michael and Forum, The new shingles vaccine is pricey, but given that *most* POCA members are at risk to develop shingles---compared to a single trip to the ER and/or to the weeks and months of doctor visits and pain medications of narcotic and non-narcotic type----its price is a pittance. I took the old shingles vaccine and need to follow my own advice and take the new one. Thanks for the reminder. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cox Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:07 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Ken said: > I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from > a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 > or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other > shot. Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for that to be available, glad to hear they are finally shipping. I've heard it is expensive, hopefully my insurance will cover it. --michael cox _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From pantdino at aol.com Thu Feb 7 14:48:30 2019 From: pantdino at aol.com (Pantdino) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation References: <1930520674.4820618.1549568910525.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1930520674.4820618.1549568910525@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, I looked at the expected side effects and am procrastinating in getting it, which is very unlike me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green via DeTomaso To: List DeTomaso Forum Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 11:45 am Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation ? This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single ? inoculation. ? I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a ? pharmacist.? He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or ? 3 days.? I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other shot. ? If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do ? nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work ? Monday.? Have ibuprofen on hand. ? Ken _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Yeah, I looked at the expected side effects and am procrastinating in getting it, which is very unlike me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green via DeTomaso To: List DeTomaso Forum Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 11:45 am Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single inoculation. I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or 3 days. I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other shot. If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work Monday. Have ibuprofen on hand. Ken _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [1]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From kenn_green at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 15:20:36 2019 From: kenn_green at yahoo.com (Ken Green) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation In-Reply-To: <1930520674.4820618.1549568910525@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1930520674.4820618.1549568910525.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1930520674.4820618.1549568910525@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <675463138.4827725.1549570836999@mail.yahoo.com> Maybe I over stated how bad it was.? I am not at all good at sitting around waiting to feel better.? Just take some ibuprofen and relax.? From what I have heard, shingles is terrible.? A friend said spread in his wife and has drastically affected her for the rest of her life. Ken From: Pantdino via DeTomaso To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation ? Yeah, I looked at the expected side effects and am procrastinating in ? getting it, which is very unlike me. ? Jim ? -----Original Message----- ? From: Ken Green via DeTomaso ? To: List DeTomaso Forum ? Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 11:45 am ? Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation ? ? This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single ? ? inoculation. ? ? I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from ? a ? ? pharmacist.? He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 ? or ? ? 3 days.? I have never had any reaction to a flu shot or any other ? shot. ? ? If you get this inoculation, I recommend Friday evening, plan to do ? ? nothing Saturday, not much on Sunday, and no serious mental work ? ? Monday.? Have ibuprofen on hand. ? ? Ken ? _______________________________________________ ? Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA ? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes ? DeTomaso mailing list ? [1]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com ? [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ? To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) ? use the links above. ? Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any ? message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the ? list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive ? or approve the archiving of list messages. 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A friend said spread in his wife and has drastically affected her for the rest of her life. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Pantdino via DeTomaso To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation Yeah, I looked at the expected side effects and am procrastinating in getting it, which is very unlike me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> To: List DeTomaso Forum <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 11:45 am Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, New Shingles 2 Part Inoculation This is suppose to be much more effective than the older single inoculation. I received the first of a new 2 part shingles inoculation Friday from a pharmacist. He warned us that it usually hits you pretty hard for 2 or 3 days. 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References 1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From lashdeep at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 17:53:18 2019 From: lashdeep at yahoo.com (Lashdeep Singh) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 17:53:18 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> Message-ID: <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. > On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: > > Dear Charlie, > > Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM > To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net > Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. > > Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? > Why not? > >> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >> >> "It has the small bumpers?!" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >> To: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >> >> Guys, >> >> Word from Jim Demick.... >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Jim Demick >>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>> >>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>> >>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>> >>> Enjoy! >>> >>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Jim Demick >>> Panteras of New Mexico >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 18:30:36 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 23:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter References: <938812569.73708.1549582236711.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <938812569.73708.1549582236711@mail.yahoo.com> Interesting braces welded into the engine compartment (@ 9:07 in the video).? I've never seen that mod before! -------------- original message -------------- Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Demick <[1]dtomasocat at aol.com> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST To: [2]dtomasocat at aol.com Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Pantera Enthusiasts, Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). Enjoy! [3]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o Best regards, Jim Demick Panteras of New Mexico -------------- next part -------------- Interesting braces welded into the engine compartment (@ 9:07 in the video). I've never seen that mod before! -------------- original message -------------- Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Demick <[1][1]dtomasocat at aol.com> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST To: [2][2]dtomasocat at aol.com Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Pantera Enthusiasts, Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). Enjoy! [3][3]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o Best regards, Jim Demick Panteras of New Mexico References 1. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 3. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Guys, ? Word from Jim Demick.... ? Mike ? Sent from my iPad ? Begin forwarded message: ? From: Jim Demick <[1][1]dtomasocat at aol.com> ? Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST ? To: [2][2]dtomasocat at aol.com ? Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter ? Pantera Enthusiasts, ? Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have ? to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on ? this program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine ? compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). ? Enjoy! ? [3][3]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o ? Best regards, ? Jim Demick ? Panteras of New Mexico References ? 1. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ? 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ? 3. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Due to the large amount of visible rust and the patch sheet metal forward of the cross brace I suspect the braces are some form of quick fix for rusted sheet metal in the inner panels that the suspension mounts to. -----Original Message----- From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso To: DeTomaso Mail List Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2019 5:30 pm Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Interesting braces welded into the engine compartment (@ 9:07 in the video). I've never seen that mod before! -------------- original message -------------- Guys, Word from Jim Demick.... Mike Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Demick <[1][1]dtomasocat at aol.com> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST To: [2][2]dtomasocat at aol.com Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Pantera Enthusiasts, Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). Enjoy! [3][3][1]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o Best regards, Jim Demick Panteras of New Mexico References 1. [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 2. [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 3. [4]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 4. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o 5. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 19:36:31 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 00:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter References: <470105844.101696.1549586191845.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <470105844.101696.1549586191845@mail.yahoo.com> I thought the "patch sheet metal forward of the cross brace" might be heat shields for the Turbos, but I think you might be right Tom. -----Original Message-----Due to the large amount of visible rust and the patch sheet metal forward of the cross brace I suspect the braces are some form of quick fix for rusted sheet metal in the inner panels that the suspension mounts to. -------------- next part -------------- I thought the "patch sheet metal forward of the cross brace" might be heat shields for the Turbos, but I think you might be right Tom. -----Original Message----- Due to the large amount of visible rust and the patch sheet metal forward of the cross brace I suspect the braces are some form of quick fix for rusted sheet me tal in the inner panels that the suspension mounts to. From cengles at cox.net Thu Feb 7 20:15:39 2019 From: cengles at cox.net (Charles Engles) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:15:39 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> Dear Lashdeep, I have little first-hand experience with other contemporary Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM To: Charles Engles Cc: De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. > On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: > > Dear Charlie, > > Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM > To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net > Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. > > Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? > Why not? > >> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >> >> "It has the small bumpers?!" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >> To: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >> >> Guys, >> >> Word from Jim Demick.... >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Jim Demick >>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>> >>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>> >>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>> >>> Enjoy! >>> >>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Jim Demick >>> Panteras of New Mexico >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From tipo874a at msn.com Thu Feb 7 22:51:25 2019 From: tipo874a at msn.com (L GRAY) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 03:51:25 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com>, <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! Leslie A. Gray > On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles wrote: > > Dear Lashdeep, > > I have little first-hand experience with other contemporary > Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM > To: Charles Engles > Cc: De Tomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter > > Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. > > It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. > > > > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: >> >> Dear Charlie, >> >> Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a > suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has never > thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) he has never > driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of Charles McCall >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net >> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >> >> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >> >> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >> Why not? >> >>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >>> >>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>> >>> Guys, >>> >>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Jim Demick >>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>> >>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>> >>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>> >>>> Enjoy! >>>> >>>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Jim Demick >>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>> use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>> use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From thomas at hax.se Thu Feb 7 23:52:25 2019 From: thomas at hax.se (=?utf-8?Q?Thomas_T=C3=B6rnblom?=) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 05:52:25 +0100 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> Message-ID: We have a fairly large Samsonite hard shell bag plus a few soft bags in the rear of our GT5 when we travel. /Thomas > 8 feb. 2019 kl. 04:51 skrev L GRAY : > > Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. > ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles wrote: >> >> Dear Lashdeep, >> >> I have little first-hand experience with other contemporary >> Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Charles Engles >> Cc: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >> >> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. >> >> It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: >>> >>> Dear Charlie, >>> >>> Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a >> suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has never >> thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) he has never >> driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >>> >>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf >> Of Charles McCall >>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >>> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net >>> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>> >>> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >>> >>> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >>> Why not? >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Demick >>>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>>> >>>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jim Demick >>>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > !DSPAM:5c5cfcce218161426711045! > From jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com Fri Feb 8 09:08:01 2019 From: jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com (Jim Kosloskey) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:08:01 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <019c01d4bfb7$b4234e00$1c69ea00$@jim-kosloskey.com> In 1974 when I bought #6949, a friend and I drove from Detroit to Phoenix, then Las Vegas, then LA, then SF and back. We had a couple of mid-size suitcases, some soft bags (I don't recall how many), and loose things stuffed everywhere (including behind the seats). It was a 4 week, fun trip. Jim Kosloskey -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Thomas T?rnblom Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:52 PM To: L GRAY Cc: De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter We have a fairly large Samsonite hard shell bag plus a few soft bags in the rear of our GT5 when we travel. /Thomas > 8 feb. 2019 kl. 04:51 skrev L GRAY : > > Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. > ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles wrote: >> >> Dear Lashdeep, >> >> I have little first-hand experience with other >> contemporary Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Charles Engles >> Cc: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >> Hunter >> >> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. >> >> It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: >>> >>> Dear Charlie, >>> >>> Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a >> suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has >> never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) >> he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >>> >>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf >> Of Charles McCall >>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >>> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net >>> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>> Hunter >>> >>> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >>> >>> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >>> Why not? >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>>> Hunter >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Demick >>>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>>> >>>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jim Demick >>>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From lashdeep at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 10:44:28 2019 From: lashdeep at yahoo.com (Lashdeep Singh) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 10:44:28 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <85B993B4-EEEA-44B3-BE55-305F19AD4D62@yahoo.com> On my last multi-day Pantera road trip, I fit one hard suitcase, two soft ones, 75lbs worth of tools, an air inflator, aluminum floor jack, and an outdoor car cover in the rear trunk. I fit a duffel bag and some soft items in the front trunk. People often forget the valuable space inside too. A full face helmet can go under the passenger?s legs and there is space between the seats for a toiletry/convenience bag. Leslie, a 914? I thought we were talking about exotic cars here! :) J/K > On Feb 7, 2019, at 22:51, L GRAY wrote: > > Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. > ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles wrote: >> >> Dear Lashdeep, >> >> I have little first-hand experience with other contemporary >> Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Charles Engles >> Cc: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >> >> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. >> >> It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: >>> >>> Dear Charlie, >>> >>> Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a >> suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has never >> thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) he has never >> driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >>> >>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf >> Of Charles McCall >>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >>> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net >>> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>> >>> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >>> >>> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >>> Why not? >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Demick >>>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>>> >>>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jim Demick >>>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From larry at ohiotimecorp.com Fri Feb 8 12:15:43 2019 From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com (larry at ohiotimecorp.com) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:15:43 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: <85B993B4-EEEA-44B3-BE55-305F19AD4D62@yahoo.com> References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> <85B993B4-EEEA-44B3-BE55-305F19AD4D62@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007001d4bfd1$ecf11680$c6d34380$@ohiotimecorp.com> My goodness guys how much underwear do you need to take on a trip?? Larry (commando) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso Sent: February 08, 2019 10:44 AM To: L GRAY Cc: De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter On my last multi-day Pantera road trip, I fit one hard suitcase, two soft ones, 75lbs worth of tools, an air inflator, aluminum floor jack, and an outdoor car cover in the rear trunk. I fit a duffel bag and some soft items in the front trunk. People often forget the valuable space inside too. A full face helmet can go under the passenger?s legs and there is space between the seats for a toiletry/convenience bag. Leslie, a 914? I thought we were talking about exotic cars here! :) J/K > On Feb 7, 2019, at 22:51, L GRAY wrote: > > Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. > ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles wrote: >> >> Dear Lashdeep, >> >> I have little first-hand experience with other >> contemporary Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Charles Engles >> Cc: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >> Hunter >> >> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. >> >> It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: >>> >>> Dear Charlie, >>> >>> Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a >> suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has >> never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) >> he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >>> >>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf >> Of Charles McCall >>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >>> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net >>> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>> Hunter >>> >>> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >>> >>> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >>> Why not? >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>>> Hunter >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Demick >>>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>>> >>>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jim Demick >>>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From b.hower3400 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 17:18:56 2019 From: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com (B Hower) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 22:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter In-Reply-To: <007001d4bfd1$ecf11680$c6d34380$@ohiotimecorp.com> References: <1608089552.4296171.1549494410458@mail.yahoo.com> <001801d4beeb$0a9cd7b0$1fd68710$@cox.net> <2AC86ACE-9EDA-4A0E-81A5-DBF44811F192@yahoo.com> <005d01d4bf4b$d27c4940$7774dbc0$@cox.net> <85B993B4-EEEA-44B3-BE55-305F19AD4D62@yahoo.com> <007001d4bfd1$ecf11680$c6d34380$@ohiotimecorp.com> Message-ID: <917764103.618879.1549664336604@mail.yahoo.com> That depends on who I am going to see and for how long?? Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Friday, February 8, 2019, 11:16:08 AM CST, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso wrote: My goodness guys how much underwear do you need to take on a trip?? Larry (commando) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso Sent: February 08, 2019 10:44 AM To: L GRAY Cc: De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter On my last multi-day Pantera road trip, I fit one hard suitcase, two soft ones, 75lbs worth of tools, an air inflator, aluminum floor jack, and an outdoor car cover in the rear trunk. I fit a duffel bag and some soft items in the front trunk. People often forget the valuable space inside too. A full face helmet can go under the passenger?s legs and there is space between the seats for a toiletry/convenience bag. Leslie, a 914? I thought we were talking about exotic cars here! :) J/K > On Feb 7, 2019, at 22:51, L GRAY wrote: > >? ? Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. > ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles wrote: >> >> Dear Lashdeep, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have little first-hand experience with other >> contemporary Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards, Chuck? Engles >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Charles Engles >> Cc: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >> Hunter >> >> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. >> >> It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles wrote: >>> >>> Dear Charlie, >>> >>>? ? ? ? ? Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a >> suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has >> never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) >> he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >>> >>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf >> Of Charles McCall >>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >>> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net >>> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>> Hunter >>> >>> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >>> >>> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >>> Why not? >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>>> Hunter >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Demick >>>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>>> To: dtomasocat at aol.com >>>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>>> >>>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jim Demick >>>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Friday, February 8, 2019, 11:16:08 AM CST, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso wrote: My goodness guys how much underwear do you need to take on a trip?? Larry (commando) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso Sent: February 08, 2019 10:44 AM To: L GRAY <[2]tipo874a at msn.com> Cc: De Tomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter On my last multi-day Pantera road trip, I fit one hard suitcase, two soft ones, 75lbs worth of tools, an air inflator, aluminum floor jack, and an outdoor car cover in the rear trunk. I fit a duffel bag and some soft items in the front trunk. People often forget the valuable space inside too. A full face helmet can go under the passengeras legs and there is space between the seats for a toiletry/convenience bag. Leslie, a 914? I thought we were talking about exotic cars here! :) J/K > On Feb 7, 2019, at 22:51, L GRAY <[4]tipo874a at msn.com> wrote: > > Actually, the often overlooked 914 & 914-6 had two trunks. The rear unit would hold and old flat style suitcase, and the front would hold luggage and duffle bags. > ........and the items in the rear trunk, over the drive train would arrive uncooked !!! > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Charles Engles <[5]cengles at cox.net> wrote: >> >> Dear Lashdeep, >> >> I have little first-hand experience with other >> contemporary Pantera exotics, but I believe that you are right. >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lashdeep Singh [mailto:[6]lashdeep at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Charles Engles >> Cc: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >> Hunter >> >> Chuck, I never understood why people think the Pantera has no luggage space. >> >> It has the most luggage capacity of any exotic car from that era. >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 08:42, Charles Engles <[7]cengles at cox.net> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Charlie, >>> >>> Tom Cotter believes a Pantera is "not the car to throw a >> suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA", because (1) he has >> never thrown a suitcase in any car and driven from NY to LA and (2) >> he has never driven a Pantera, in all likelihood....... >>> >>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf >> Of Charles McCall >>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:04 AM >>> To: [9]gt40 at sbcglobal.net >>> Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>> Hunter >>> >>> I noticed the "early model with small bumpers" comment as well. >>> >>> Wouldn't be a car to throw a suitcase in the back and drive from NY to LA? >>> Why not? >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM <[10]gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> "It has the small bumpers?!" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:01 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find >>>> Hunter >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> Word from Jim Demick.... >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Demick <[11]dtomasocat at aol.com> >>>>> Date: February 6, 2019 at 15:06:50 PST >>>>> To: [12]dtomasocat at aol.com >>>>> Subject: Detomaso Pantera on today's Barn Find Hunter >>>>> >>>>> Pantera Enthusiasts, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Cotter is a bit off in his Pantera valuations but you simply >>>>> have to watch this video for what is found INSIDE the Pantera >>>>> featured on this program....and No, I am not talking about inside >>>>> the engine compartment (although that ends up being a surprise too!). >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> >>>>> [13]https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jim Demick >>>>> Panteras of New Mexico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> [14]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> [15]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>>> [16]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> [17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >>>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> [18]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> [19]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> [20]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> [21]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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References 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:tipo874a at msn.com 5. mailto:cengles at cox.net 6. mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com 7. mailto:cengles at cox.net 8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 9. mailto:gt40 at sbcglobal.net 10. mailto:gt40 at sbcglobal.net 11. mailto:dtomasocat at aol.com 12. mailto:dtomasocat at aol.com 13. https://youtu.be/5LAL745d-9o 14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 22. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 23. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 24. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 25. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From detomasoregistry at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 19:51:03 2019 From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:51:03 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Unknown89 Pantera GTS Message-ID: <5B42E82236AA4F9686BD8AD67684B233@BOSS3A> Anyone recognize the car in the attached photo ? More in the registry: www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/Unknown89/Unknown89.asp The plate (maybe Connecticut) is 52932, shows a Red + Black GTS (?)... with Euro-L front bumperettes. Riding on 8 and 10 inch Campies, in some pics the 'spoiler' is red, earlier pics it was black. L Dash with Burlwood inserts, and Hall seats and arm rest. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp -------------- next part -------------- Anyone recognize the car in the attached photo ? More in the registry: www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/Unknown89/Unknown89.asp The plate (maybe Connecticut) is 52932, shows a Red + Black GTS (?)... with Euro-L front bumperettes. Riding on 8 and 10 inch Campies, in some pics the `spoiler' is red, earlier pics it was black. L Dash with Burlwood inserts, and Hall seats and arm rest. 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Name: Unknown89FL1sc2013.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 249825 bytes Desc: not available URL: From MikeLDrew at aol.com Fri Feb 8 21:19:43 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:19:43 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Unknown89 Pantera GTS In-Reply-To: <5B42E82236AA4F9686BD8AD67684B233@BOSS3A> References: <5B42E82236AA4F9686BD8AD67684B233@BOSS3A> Message-ID: <0B5C9393-F5E7-4AB8-A68D-99E9BA8131A2@aol.com> Chuck, I think that?s Walt Dethier?s car (former owner of factory Gr4 car #2342) Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 8, 2019, at 16:51, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote: > > Anyone recognize the car in the attached photo ? > > > More in the registry: > > > www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/Unknown89/Unknown89.asp > > > The plate (maybe Connecticut) is 52932, shows a Red + Black GTS (?)... > with Euro-L front bumperettes. > > Riding on 8 and 10 inch Campies, in some pics the `spoiler' is red, > earlier pics it was black. > > L Dash with Burlwood inserts, and Hall seats and arm rest. > > > Chuck > > > > > The De Tomaso Registry Guy > > [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > > References > > 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From vinh.d.ly at gmail.com Sat Feb 9 15:09:25 2019 From: vinh.d.ly at gmail.com (Vinh Ly) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:09:25 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" In-Reply-To: References: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, Thanks for the advance notice. I had been following this car?s progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 wrote: > Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. > > I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air this > Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." > > It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel 281. > > Enjoy! > > John > > *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? > Curious. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > -------------- next part -------------- John, Thanks for the advance notice.A I had been following this caras progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: [1]https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 <[2]gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote: Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air this Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel 281. Enjoy! John *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? Curious. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs 2. mailto:gt40 at sbcglobal.net 3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From gt40 at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 9 21:50:03 2019 From: gt40 at sbcglobal.net (gt40 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 18:50:03 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" In-Reply-To: References: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1EF4068840D04A98AA8BE9ECA91E9C9E@DESKTOP2DFQFOR> No problem Vinh, hope many enjoyed it as well. John -----Original Message----- From: Vinh Ly Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:09 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" John, Thanks for the advance notice. I had been following this car?s progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 wrote: > Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. > > I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air this > Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." > > It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel > 281. > > Enjoy! > > John > > *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? > Curious. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve > the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sun Feb 10 00:11:02 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 21:11:02 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" In-Reply-To: <1EF4068840D04A98AA8BE9ECA91E9C9E@DESKTOP2DFQFOR> References: <1738106865.4394368.1549510775286@mail.yahoo.com> <1EF4068840D04A98AA8BE9ECA91E9C9E@DESKTOP2DFQFOR> Message-ID: <5A302F51-F71C-4900-A1EB-D9DE0B7A25ED@aol.com> Ah, that?s Gary Walker. He has been a lurker here from time to time. Back when I was Profiles editor I had plans to feature his car when it was done, but it took far longer than expected. That was a very positive video! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 9, 2019, at 18:50, wrote: > > No problem Vinh, hope many enjoyed it as well. > > John > > -----Original Message----- From: Vinh Ly > Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:09 PM > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" > > John, > > Thanks for the advance notice. I had been following this car?s progress > and it is nice to finally see the results. > > For anyone that missed it, here is a link: > > https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs > > > Regards, > Vinh > > > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 wrote: >> >> Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. >> >> I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air this >> Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." >> >> It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel 281. >> >> Enjoy! >> >> John >> >> *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? >> Curious. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >> the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From mbefthomas at comcast.net Sun Feb 10 12:17:58 2019 From: mbefthomas at comcast.net (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:17:58 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" - Here's the YouTube video Message-ID: <039901d4c164$9212e830$b638b890$@comcast.net> Just captured on YouTube, the MCC Pantera segment. Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow ?74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Vinh Ly Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:09 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" John, Thanks for the advance notice. I had been following this car?s progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 wrote: > Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. > > I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air > this Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." > > It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel 281. > > Enjoy! > > John > > *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? > Curious. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > From mbefthomas at comcast.net Sun Feb 10 12:41:33 2019 From: mbefthomas at comcast.net (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:41:33 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" - YouTube > My .02 Message-ID: <039c01d4c167$df0f9680$9d2ec380$@comcast.net> OK, watched the video, should have done that before I posted. I've never really cared much for watching Dennis Gage, a little too 'animated'. That said, a lot of interesting things on the car and I remember it now as the one with the four-pipe exhaust going up and over the rear suspension to the box mufflers. Not sure if it's the design of the exhaust or it was running on fewer than 8 cylinders but the low RPM cruising note sounds like it's missing on more than one cylinder. Like I said, just my .02. Oh, and realized I didn't attach the video in my first link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPHTPskrjhs Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow ?74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:18 AM To: 'Vinh Ly' ; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" - Here's the YouTube video Just captured on YouTube, the MCC Pantera segment. Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow ?74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Vinh Ly Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:09 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" John, Thanks for the advance notice. I had been following this car?s progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 wrote: > Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. > > I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air > this Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." > > It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. On my provider that is channel 281. > > Enjoy! > > John > > *and is it pronounced "Dee" Tomaso, or "Day" Tomaso?? > Curious. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From pantdino at aol.com Sun Feb 10 14:04:30 2019 From: pantdino at aol.com (Pantdino) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" - YouTube > My .02 References: <1322103619.1237625.1549825470352.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1322103619.1237625.1549825470352@mail.yahoo.com> Episode should be titled ?How to turn a beautiful?car into a friggin ugly one.? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On?Sunday, February 10, 2019,?Mike & Elizabeth Thomas??wrote: OK, watched the video, should have done that before I posted.? I've never really cared much for watching Dennis Gage, a little too 'animated'.? That said, a lot of interesting things on the car and I remember it now as the one with the four-pipe exhaust going up and over the rear suspension to the box mufflers.? Not sure if it's the design of the exhaust or it was running on fewer than 8 cylinders but the low RPM cruising note sounds like it's missing on more than one cylinder.? Like I said, just my .02. Oh, and realized I didn't attach the video in my first link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPHTPskrjhs Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow ?74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:18 AM To: 'Vinh Ly' ; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" - Here's the YouTube video Just captured on YouTube, the MCC Pantera segment. Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow ?74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Vinh Ly Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:09 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" John, Thanks for the advance notice.? I had been following this car?s progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 wrote: > Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. > > I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air > this Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." > > It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Episode should be titled aHow to turn a beautiful car into a friggin ugly one.a Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Sunday, February 10, 2019, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas wrote: OK, watched the video, should have done that before I posted. I've never really cared much for watching Dennis Gage, a little too 'animated'. That said, a lot of interesting things on the car and I remember it now as the one with the four-pipe exhaust going up and over the rear suspension to the box mufflers. Not sure if it's the design of the exhaust or it was running on fewer than 8 cylinders but the low RPM cruising note sounds like it's missing on more than one cylinder. Like I said, just my .02. Oh, and realized I didn't attach the video in my first link [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPHTPskrjhs Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow a74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:18 AM To: 'Vinh Ly' <[3]vinh.d.ly at gmail.com>; [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" - Here's the YouTube video Just captured on YouTube, the MCC Pantera segment. Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow a74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Vinh Ly Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:09 PM To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera to be on "My Classic Car" John, Thanks for the advance notice. I had been following this caras progress and it is nice to finally see the results. For anyone that missed it, here is a link: [7]https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs Regards, Vinh On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 23:08 <[8]gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone wishes to watch. > > I see that an upcoming episode of My Classic Car that is set to air > this Saturday Feb 9th focuses on a "customized DeTomaso Pantera." > > It is on Motor Trend TV at 5:30-6:00am. 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References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPHTPskrjhs 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:vinh.d.ly at gmail.com 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs 8. mailto:gt40 at sbcglobal.net 9. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 10. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From MikeLDrew at aol.com Mon Feb 11 18:00:12 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:00:12 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal Message-ID: All, It seems to me it?s possible to remove the fuel level sender without removing the side window glass. In fact I?m fairly certain I?ve done it, years ago, but can?t remember for certain. Can anybody confirm please? Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring orientation of the old one? Mike Sent from my iPad From MikeLDrew at aol.com Mon Feb 11 21:34:07 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:34:07 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> Message-ID: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall wrote: >> >> Mike... >> Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. Good Luck Curt >> <20190211_172047.jpg> >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> wrote: >> All, >> >> It seems to me it?s possible to remove the fuel level sender without removing the side window glass. In fact I?m fairly certain I?ve done it, years ago, but can?t remember for certain. Can anybody confirm please? >> >> Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring orientation of the old one? >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. >> <20190211_172047.jpg> -------------- next part -------------- Thanks Curt. Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. image1.jpeg I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring orientation. Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: Mike... Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. Good Luck Curt <20190211_172047.jpg> [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: All, It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm please? Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring orientation of the old one? 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Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > orientation of the old one? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From b.hower3400 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 21:45:01 2019 From: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com (B Hower) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 02:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> Message-ID: <1938215207.55585.1549939501763@mail.yahoo.com> What activates the low fuel light? Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Monday, February 11, 2019, 8:41:03 PM CST, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > >? ? Thanks Curt. > >? Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >? completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > >? image1.jpeg > >? I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring >? orientation. > >? Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >? sender without removing the window?? It may not be possible. > >? Mike >? Sent from my iPad >? On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >? Mike... >? Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading >? on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced >? the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my >? windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. >? Good Luck Curt >? <20190211_172047.jpg> >? [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >? On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >? <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >? All, >? It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without >? removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done >? it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >? please? >? Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >? unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >? ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >? getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I >? have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >? orientation of the old one? >? Mike >? Sent from my iPad >? _______________________________________________ >? Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >? DeTomaso mailing list >? [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >? [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >? 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Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > orientation of the old one? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4][4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5][5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > <20190211_172047.jpg> > > References > > 1. mailto:[6]cuvee at sbcglobal.net > 2. 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Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 602200 bytes Desc: not available URL: From julian_kift at hotmail.com Mon Feb 11 22:10:21 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:10:21 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bill, Mike?s fuel sender electrical questions reminded me I meant to write back on your post regarding the wiring diagrams. Your request to find a new caretaker seemed to slip by without much attention. If no one has taken you up I would be willing to take on maintenance of the wiring diagrams. I have ready access to AutoCAD via work. Julian > On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:55, William Taylor wrote: > > I would like to turn the maintenance/improvement of the Pantera > Electrical Diagrams (hosted on Pantera Place by Mike Dailey) to a forum > member. > I will happy to transfer the original CAD files and the PDF release > files and will assist with any questions. > Not much actually needs to done on a regular basis for this task, but > someone new needs to carry the diagrams forward. > SOBill TaylorA A [1]sobill1133 at gmail.com > -- > The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. > Do the best you can with what you have where you are. > Eat dessert first, life is uncertain. > > References > > 1. mailto:sobill1133 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From julian_kift at hotmail.com Mon Feb 11 22:22:38 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:22:38 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> , <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> Message-ID: Mike, Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. 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In theory it shouldn't matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][3]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. 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Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 602200 bytes Desc: image1.jpeg URL: From MikeLDrew at aol.com Mon Feb 11 22:29:25 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:29:25 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <1938215207.55585.1549939501763@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <1938215207.55585.1549939501763@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4877C00F-2546-4179-A44E-2684598B523B@aol.com> Bud, There are two contacts inside the sender. One is a rheostat that gives variable voltage (for the needle). The other is a contact that delivers either zero or full voltage (for the light). Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:45, B Hower wrote: > > What activates the low fuel light? > > > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) > > > On Monday, February 11, 2019, 8:41:03 PM CST, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > > > Hmm, > > Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... > > > > > > Mike > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > > > > Thanks Curt. > > > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > > > image1.jpeg > > > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > > orientation. > > > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > Mike... > > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > > Good Luck Curt > > <20190211_172047.jpg> > > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > > > All, > > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > > please? > > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > > orientation of the old one? > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > > list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > -------------- next part -------------- Bud, There are two contacts inside the sender. One is a rheostat that gives variable voltage (for the needle). The other is a contact that delivers either zero or full voltage (for the light). Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:45, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote: What activates the low fuel light? Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Monday, February 11, 2019, 8:41:03 PM CST, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > orientation of the old one? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4][6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5][7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift > wrote: Mike, Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > orientation of the old one? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: Mike, Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn't matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. 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References 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com 2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net 9. https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature 10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From MikeLDrew at aol.com Mon Feb 11 22:38:50 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:38:50 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> Message-ID: <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> Julian, Right, got that. That?s not the issue. The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which without having to install and hook them up. Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme as the old one. This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it required engine removal). Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, it doesn?t feed fuel at all. The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change the tank again. And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards too. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: > > Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! > > Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. > > Julian > > On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). >> >> Julian >> >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: >> >>> Hmm, >>> >>> Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: >>> > >>> > Thanks Curt. >>> > >>> > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >>> > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >>> > >>> > image1.jpeg >>> > >>> > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring >>> > orientation. >>> > >>> > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >>> > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >>> > >>> > Mike >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> > >>> > Mike... >>> > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading >>> > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced >>> > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my >>> > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. >>> > Good Luck Curt >>> > <20190211_172047.jpg> >>> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> > >>> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>> > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > All, >>> > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without >>> > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done >>> > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >>> > please? >>> > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >>> > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >>> > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >>> > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I >>> > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >>> > orientation of the old one? >>> > Mike >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> > DeTomaso mailing list >>> > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>> > use the links above. >>> > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>> > list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Julian, Right, got that. That's not the issue. The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which without having to install and hook them up. Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme as the old one. This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it required engine removal). Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, it doesn't feed fuel at all. The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change the tank again. And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards too. Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: Mike, Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn't matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). Julian On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][5]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > orientation of the old one? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4][7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5][8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > <20190211_172047.jpg> > > References > > 1. [9]mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net > 2. 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References 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com 2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net 6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 9. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net 10. https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature 11. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 12. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 13. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From tipo874a at msn.com Tue Feb 12 00:31:58 2019 From: tipo874a at msn.com (L GRAY) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 05:31:58 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Electrical Diagrams In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Awesome Julian !! I?m glad that you steeped up to the plate on this issue! Many, many thanks to Bill for all of his selfless efforts to aid the ever expanding DeTomaso family !!! Leslie A. Gray > On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Julian Kift wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > Mike?s fuel sender electrical questions reminded me I meant to write back on your post regarding the wiring diagrams. Your request to find a new caretaker seemed to slip by without much attention. If no one has taken you up I would be willing to take on maintenance of the wiring diagrams. I have ready access to AutoCAD via work. > > Julian > >> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:55, William Taylor wrote: >> >> I would like to turn the maintenance/improvement of the Pantera >> Electrical Diagrams (hosted on Pantera Place by Mike Dailey) to a forum >> member. >> I will happy to transfer the original CAD files and the PDF release >> files and will assist with any questions. >> Not much actually needs to done on a regular basis for this task, but >> someone new needs to carry the diagrams forward. >> SOBill TaylorA A [1]sobill1133 at gmail.com >> -- >> The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. >> Do the best you can with what you have where you are. >> Eat dessert first, life is uncertain. >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:sobill1133 at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From b.hower3400 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 09:06:51 2019 From: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com (B Hower) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <4877C00F-2546-4179-A44E-2684598B523B@aol.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <1938215207.55585.1549939501763@mail.yahoo.com> <4877C00F-2546-4179-A44E-2684598B523B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1141820804.284328.1549980411099@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Monday, February 11, 2019, 9:29:30 PM CST, Mike Drew wrote: Bud, There are two contacts inside the sender. ?One is a rheostat that gives variable voltage (for the needle). The other is a contact that delivers either zero or full voltage (for the light). Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:45, B Hower wrote: What activates the low fuel light? Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Monday, February 11, 2019, 8:41:03 PM CST, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: > >? ? Thanks Curt. > >? Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >? completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > >? image1.jpeg > >? I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring >? orientation. > >? Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >? sender without removing the window?? It may not be possible. > >? Mike >? Sent from my iPad >? On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >? Mike... >? Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading >? on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced >? the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my >? windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. >? Good Luck Curt >? <20190211_172047.jpg> >? [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >? On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >? <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >? All, >? It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without >? removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done >? it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >? please? >? Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >? unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >? ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >? getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I >? have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >? orientation of the old one? >? Mike >? Sent from my iPad >? _______________________________________________ >? Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >? DeTomaso mailing list >? [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >? [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >? To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >? use the links above. >? Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >? message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >? list. 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The other is a contact that delivers either zero or full voltage (for the light). Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:45, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote: What activates the low fuel light? Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) On Monday, February 11, 2019, 8:41:03 PM CST, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hmm, Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curt. > > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. > > image1.jpeg > > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring > orientation. > > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. > > Mike > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Mike... > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. > Good Luck Curt > <20190211_172047.jpg> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > All, > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm > please? > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring > orientation of the old one? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4][6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5][7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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References 1. mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com 2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net 9. https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature 10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From kenn_green at yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 14:56:53 2019 From: kenn_green at yahoo.com (Ken Green) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 19:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] "prototype" 71 on ebay for $40K??? References: <983586564.2575085.1550001413911.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <983586564.2575085.1550001413911@mail.yahoo.com> 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay | | | | $40000.00 | | | | | | | 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay 1971 DeTomaso Pantera prototype push button 6th car made with 4th engine first cars were used for testing my car... | | | -------------- next part -------------- [1]1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay $40000.00 [ebay.png] 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay 1971 DeTomaso Pantera prototype push button 6th car made with 4th engine first cars were used for testing my car... References Visible links 1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 Hidden links: 3. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 From doug351c at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 15:49:18 2019 From: doug351c at gmail.com (Doug) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:49:18 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> Message-ID: <001801d4c314$6cc26b30$46474190$@gmail.com> Mike, You'll cause no harm if you connect the Yellow and the White/Black wires to the sender wrong. Both of the sender's terminals work by pulling the voltage towards ground, one does so with a switch and the other with a variable resistor. I'm assuming you've already installed the sender in the tank and hence you can't move the sender's float arm. If you have an Ohm-meter, it's likely that even with the gas tank empty, the gauge terminal will measure as a higher Ohm reading than the tank-empty lamp terminal. Both of these measurement should be made between the respective terminal and the sender's ground terminal. Doug Braun Blue 73L #5505 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:39 PM To: Julian Kift Cc: De Tomaso List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal Julian, Right, got that. That?s not the issue. The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which without having to install and hook them up. Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme as the old one. This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it required engine removal). Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, it doesn?t feed fuel at all. The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change the tank again. And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards too. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: > > Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! > > Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. > > Julian > > On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). >> >> Julian >> >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: >> >>> Hmm, >>> >>> Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: >>> > >>> > Thanks Curt. >>> > >>> > Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >>> > completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >>> > >>> > image1.jpeg >>> > >>> > I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring >>> > orientation. >>> > >>> > Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >>> > sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >>> > >>> > Mike >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> > >>> > Mike... >>> > Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading >>> > on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced >>> > the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my >>> > windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. >>> > Good Luck Curt >>> > <20190211_172047.jpg> >>> > [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> > >>> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>> > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > All, >>> > It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without >>> > removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done >>> > it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >>> > please? >>> > Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >>> > unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >>> > ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >>> > getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I >>> > have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >>> > orientation of the old one? >>> > Mike >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> > DeTomaso mailing list >>> > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>> > use the links above. >>> > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>> > list. 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Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:56, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote: > > [1]1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay > $40000.00 > > [ebay.png] > > 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay > > 1971 DeTomaso Pantera prototype push button 6th car made with 4th > engine first cars were used for testing my car... > > References > > Visible links > 1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 > > Hidden links: > 3. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Tue Feb 12 15:53:25 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:53:25 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <001801d4c314$6cc26b30$46474190$@gmail.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> <001801d4c314$6cc26b30$46474190$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82F8726A-E4DE-4F7A-95A5-3C7573CE424F@aol.com> Thanks Doug, Sender is still in the box. I am just trying to confirm its possible to remove the sender from the tank without removing the window before starting the surgery. I will probably do it Monday. Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:49, Doug wrote: > > Mike, > > You'll cause no harm if you connect the Yellow and the White/Black wires to the sender wrong. > Both of the sender's terminals work by pulling the voltage towards ground, one does so with a switch and the other with a variable resistor. > > I'm assuming you've already installed the sender in the tank and hence you can't move the sender's float arm. > If you have an Ohm-meter, it's likely that even with the gas tank empty, the gauge terminal will measure as a higher Ohm reading than the tank-empty lamp terminal. Both of these measurement should be made between the respective terminal and the sender's ground terminal. > > Doug Braun > Blue 73L #5505 > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:39 PM > To: Julian Kift > Cc: De Tomaso List > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal > > Julian, > > Right, got that. That?s not the issue. > > The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which without having to install and hook them up. > > Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme as the old one. > > This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. > > Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it required engine removal). > > Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, it doesn?t feed fuel at all. > > The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change the tank again. > > And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards too. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: >> >> Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! >> >> Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. >> >> Julian >> >>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift wrote: >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the resistor wipe arm (float). >>> >>> Julian >>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: >>>> >>>> Hmm, >>>> >>>> Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Curt. >>>>> >>>>> Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >>>>> completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >>>>> >>>>> image1.jpeg >>>>> >>>>> I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender wiring >>>>> orientation. >>>>> >>>>> Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >>>>> sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mike... >>>>> Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge reading >>>>> on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, replaced >>>>> the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I have my >>>>> windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before installing. >>>>> Good Luck Curt >>>>> <20190211_172047.jpg> >>>>> [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender without >>>>> removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've done >>>>> it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >>>>> please? >>>>> Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >>>>> unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >>>>> ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >>>>> getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. I >>>>> have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >>>>> orientation of the old one? >>>>> Mike >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>>> [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>>> [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>>> use the links above. >>>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>>>> list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > From larrys at panteraparts.com Tue Feb 12 16:00:12 2019 From: larrys at panteraparts.com (Larry Stock) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:00:12 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: <82F8726A-E4DE-4F7A-95A5-3C7573CE424F@aol.com> References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> <001801d4c314$6cc26b30$46474190$@gmail.com> <82F8726A-E4DE-4F7A-95A5-3C7573CE424F@aol.com> Message-ID: You can remove and install the fuel tank sender without removing the window. Larry On 2/12/19, 12:53 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" wrote: >Thanks Doug, > >Sender is still in the box. I am just trying to confirm its possible to >remove the sender from the tank without removing the window before >starting the surgery. I will probably do it Monday. > >Mike > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:49, Doug wrote: >> >> Mike, >> >> You'll cause no harm if you connect the Yellow and the White/Black >>wires to the sender wrong. >> Both of the sender's terminals work by pulling the voltage towards >>ground, one does so with a switch and the other with a variable resistor. >> >> I'm assuming you've already installed the sender in the tank and hence >>you can't move the sender's float arm. >> If you have an Ohm-meter, it's likely that even with the gas tank >>empty, the gauge terminal will measure as a higher Ohm reading than the >>tank-empty lamp terminal. Both of these measurement should be made >>between the respective terminal and the sender's ground terminal. >> >> Doug Braun >> Blue 73L #5505 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:39 PM >> To: Julian Kift >> Cc: De Tomaso List >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal >> >> Julian, >> >> Right, got that. That?s not the issue. >> >> The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which >>for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the >>sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which >>without having to install and hook them up. >> >> Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more >>like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme >>as the old one. >> >> This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one >>is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. >> >> Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old >>tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the >>free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of >>course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it >>required engine removal). >> >> Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel >>pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the >>way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel >>pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, >>it doesn?t feed fuel at all. >> >> The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by >>installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose >>over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change >>the tank again. >> >> And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards >>too. >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: >>> >>> Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring >>>diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! >>> >>> Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. >>> >>> Julian >>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire >>>>feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In >>>>theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either >>>>side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the >>>>other the resistor wipe arm (float). >>>> >>>> Julian >>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hmm, >>>>> >>>>> Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Curt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >>>>>> completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >>>>>> >>>>>> image1.jpeg >>>>>> >>>>>> I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender >>>>>>wiring >>>>>> orientation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >>>>>> sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike... >>>>>> Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge >>>>>>reading >>>>>> on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, >>>>>>replaced >>>>>> the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I >>>>>>have my >>>>>> windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before >>>>>>installing. >>>>>> Good Luck Curt >>>>>> <20190211_172047.jpg> >>>>>> [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender >>>>>>without >>>>>> removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've >>>>>>done >>>>>> it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >>>>>> please? >>>>>> Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >>>>>> unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >>>>>> ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >>>>>> getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. >>>>>>I >>>>>> have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >>>>>> orientation of the old one? >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>>>> [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>>>> [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>>>>etc.) >>>>>> use the links above. >>>>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>>>>any >>>>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>>>>> list. 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From rcbsons1 at aol.com Tue Feb 12 16:12:55 2019 From: rcbsons1 at aol.com (Bob) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:12:55 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Shingles Message-ID: My dad has had shingles for 20 years They missed it when he first went to a dr and now suffers all the time I had the first shot at 60 Now just did the two part series at 65 Second shot I felt sickly for a couple of days Bob Benson Sent from my iPhone From david at msmcontractors.org Tue Feb 12 16:22:03 2019 From: david at msmcontractors.org (David) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:22:03 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> <001801d4c314$6cc26b30$46474190$@gmail.com> <82F8726A-E4DE-4F7A-95A5-3C7573CE424F@aol.com> Message-ID: I believe Chuck Engles installed one of the new electronic style senders that reads correct. One of my future upgrades perhaps. David Finley #3659 > On Feb 12, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Larry Stock wrote: > > You can remove and install the fuel tank sender without removing the > window. > Larry > > On 2/12/19, 12:53 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Doug, >> >> Sender is still in the box. I am just trying to confirm its possible to >> remove the sender from the tank without removing the window before >> starting the surgery. I will probably do it Monday. >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:49, Doug wrote: >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> You'll cause no harm if you connect the Yellow and the White/Black >>> wires to the sender wrong. >>> Both of the sender's terminals work by pulling the voltage towards >>> ground, one does so with a switch and the other with a variable resistor. >>> >>> I'm assuming you've already installed the sender in the tank and hence >>> you can't move the sender's float arm. >>> If you have an Ohm-meter, it's likely that even with the gas tank >>> empty, the gauge terminal will measure as a higher Ohm reading than the >>> tank-empty lamp terminal. Both of these measurement should be made >>> between the respective terminal and the sender's ground terminal. >>> >>> Doug Braun >>> Blue 73L #5505 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:39 PM >>> To: Julian Kift >>> Cc: De Tomaso List >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal >>> >>> Julian, >>> >>> Right, got that. That?s not the issue. >>> >>> The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which >>> for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the >>> sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which >>> without having to install and hook them up. >>> >>> Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more >>> like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme >>> as the old one. >>> >>> This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one >>> is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. >>> >>> Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old >>> tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the >>> free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of >>> course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it >>> required engine removal). >>> >>> Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel >>> pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the >>> way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel >>> pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, >>> it doesn?t feed fuel at all. >>> >>> The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by >>> installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose >>> over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change >>> the tank again. >>> >>> And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards >>> too. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring >>>> diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! >>>> >>>> Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. >>>> >>>> Julian >>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire >>>>> feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In >>>>> theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either >>>>> side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the >>>>> other the resistor wipe arm (float). >>>>> >>>>> Julian >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm, >>>>>> >>>>>> Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Curt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >>>>>>> completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> image1.jpeg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender >>>>>>> wiring >>>>>>> orientation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >>>>>>> sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike... >>>>>>> Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge >>>>>>> reading >>>>>>> on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, >>>>>>> replaced >>>>>>> the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I >>>>>>> have my >>>>>>> windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before >>>>>>> installing. >>>>>>> Good Luck Curt >>>>>>> <20190211_172047.jpg> >>>>>>> [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>>> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >>>>>>> please? >>>>>>> Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >>>>>>> unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >>>>>>> ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >>>>>>> getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >>>>>>> orientation of the old one? >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>>>>> [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>>>>> [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>>>>> etc.) >>>>>>> use the links above. >>>>>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>>>>>> list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From pantdino at aol.com Tue Feb 12 20:23:08 2019 From: pantdino at aol.com (Pantdino) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 01:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] "prototype" 71 on ebay for $40K??? References: <581576210.2732586.1550020988575.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <581576210.2732586.1550020988575@mail.yahoo.com> Aren't "6th car made" and "prototype" mutually exclusive? Jim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso To: Ken Green ; DeTomaso Forum Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "prototype" 71 on ebay for $40K??? Item removed already. It has been for sale for years with an ever escalating price. Last I heard it was $250k. Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:56, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote: > >? [1]1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay >? $40000.00 > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? [ebay.png] > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay > >? ? ? 1971 DeTomaso Pantera prototype push button 6th car made with 4th >? ? ? ? ? ? ? engine first cars were used for testing my car... > > References > >? Visible links >? 1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 > >? Hidden links: >? 3. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Aren't "6th car made" and "prototype" mutually exclusive? Jim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso To: Ken Green ; DeTomaso Forum Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "prototype" 71 on ebay for $40K??? Item removed already. It has been for sale for years with an ever escalating price. Last I heard it was $250k. Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:56, Ken Green via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > [1]1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay > $40000.00 > > [ebay.png] > > 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay > > 1971 DeTomaso Pantera prototype push button 6th car made with 4th > engine first cars were used for testing my car... > > References > > Visible links > 1. [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 > > Hidden links: > 3. [3]https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 3. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 4. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From MikeLDrew at aol.com Tue Feb 12 21:02:41 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 18:02:41 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] "prototype" 71 on ebay for $40K??? In-Reply-To: <581576210.2732586.1550020988575@mail.yahoo.com> References: <581576210.2732586.1550020988575.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <581576210.2732586.1550020988575@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <07053752-F6F1-45CF-B0E1-21A671DDD2A5@aol.com> Jim, Heavens no. The OEMs build literally hundreds of preproduction prototypes before the first production car is produced. De Tomaso built far fewer than that, but this was literally a handbuilt car with innumerable minor differences from even the early production Panteras. (The owner believes a standard Pantera windshield wot fit, but I believe he is very wrong there, and was trying to fit an aftermarket windshield that doesn't fit standard cars either). Nowadays such cars can't be sold to the public. In fact this car probably couldn't be sold in the USA, so after its time as a certification car, it was returned to Italy and sold there. One of the early owners was a US Army officer, a colonel I think, who was assassinated by the Red Brigades terrorist group, supposedly while in the Pantera (unconfirmed). It later came to the USA, where it was restored by a friend of Mike Trusty in Arkansas. He then sold it to the Florida guy, probably 20 years ago or so. Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2019, at 17:23, Pantdino via DeTomaso wrote: > > Aren't "6th car made" and "prototype" mutually exclusive? > > Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso > To: Ken Green ; DeTomaso Forum > > Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 12:51 pm > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "prototype" 71 on ebay for $40K??? > Item removed already. It has been for sale for years with an ever > escalating price. Last I heard it was $250k. > Mike > Sent from my iPhone >>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:56, Ken Green via DeTomaso >> <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> [1]1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay >> $40000.00 >> >> [ebay.png] >> >> 1971 De Tomaso Other | eBay >> >> 1971 DeTomaso Pantera prototype push button 6th car made with > 4th >> engine first cars were used for testing my car... >> >> References >> >> Visible links >> 1. [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-De-Tomaso-Other/283376508880 >> >> Hidden links: >> 3. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Tue Feb 12 21:08:05 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 18:08:05 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> <7A5F7C35-D2D5-4AEF-8A31-D3D0DF9213E0@aol.com> <001801d4c314$6cc26b30$46474190$@gmail.com> <82F8726A-E4DE-4F7A-95A5-3C7573CE424F@aol.com> Message-ID: <42798FBB-E0C9-4223-BAF1-8123336D0158@aol.com> Thanks Larry! Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2019, at 13:00, Larry Stock wrote: > > You can remove and install the fuel tank sender without removing the > window. > Larry > > On 2/12/19, 12:53 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Doug, >> >> Sender is still in the box. I am just trying to confirm its possible to >> remove the sender from the tank without removing the window before >> starting the surgery. I will probably do it Monday. >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:49, Doug wrote: >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> You'll cause no harm if you connect the Yellow and the White/Black >>> wires to the sender wrong. >>> Both of the sender's terminals work by pulling the voltage towards >>> ground, one does so with a switch and the other with a variable resistor. >>> >>> I'm assuming you've already installed the sender in the tank and hence >>> you can't move the sender's float arm. >>> If you have an Ohm-meter, it's likely that even with the gas tank >>> empty, the gauge terminal will measure as a higher Ohm reading than the >>> tank-empty lamp terminal. Both of these measurement should be made >>> between the respective terminal and the sender's ground terminal. >>> >>> Doug Braun >>> Blue 73L #5505 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:39 PM >>> To: Julian Kift >>> Cc: De Tomaso List >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal >>> >>> Julian, >>> >>> Right, got that. That?s not the issue. >>> >>> The issue is, which contact ON THE SENDER is for the needle and which >>> for the light? Both are connected to wires that disappear inside the >>> sender. I would like to be able to simply tell visually which is which >>> without having to install and hook them up. >>> >>> Worst case, I have a 50/50 chance of success. Actually probably more >>> like 75/25 because one would hope the new sender follows the same scheme >>> as the old one. >>> >>> This whole thing is being driven not by a bad sender (my existing one >>> is perfect), but instead by a bad gas tank. >>> >>> Somebody gave me a free perfect-looking tank 25 years ago. When my old >>> tank started leaking (from the top it turns out) I reconditioned the >>> free replacement inside and out, after carefully inspecting it of >>> course, and then installed it (a non-trivial undertaking since it >>> required engine removal). >>> >>> Come to find out that free gas tanks are free for a reason! The fuel >>> pickup pipe inside the tank apparently has a pinhole about 2/3 of the >>> way up. It works perfectly when the tank is full. At about 2/3 full fuel >>> pressure drops to less than 1 psi and when the level is less than that, >>> it doesn?t feed fuel at all. >>> >>> The later cars had the fuel pickup built into the sender. So by >>> installing a later sender into my early tank, I can move the fuel hose >>> over to the sender and fix my problem without having to pull and change >>> the tank again. >>> >>> And, I will have a perfect Pre-L sender available for sale afterwards >>> too. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring >>>> diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! >>>> >>>> Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. >>>> >>>> Julian >>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire >>>>> feeds what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In >>>>> theory it shouldn?t matter as the wires are just connected to either >>>>> side of a variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the >>>>> other the resistor wipe arm (float). >>>>> >>>>> Julian >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm, >>>>>> >>>>>> Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Curt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >>>>>>> completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> image1.jpeg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender >>>>>>> wiring >>>>>>> orientation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >>>>>>> sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike... >>>>>>> Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge >>>>>>> reading >>>>>>> on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, >>>>>>> replaced >>>>>>> the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I >>>>>>> have my >>>>>>> windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before >>>>>>> installing. >>>>>>> Good Luck Curt >>>>>>> <20190211_172047.jpg> >>>>>>> [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>>>>> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >>>>>>> please? >>>>>>> Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >>>>>>> unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >>>>>>> ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >>>>>>> getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >>>>>>> orientation of the old one? >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>>>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>>>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>>>>> [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>>>>> [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>>>>> etc.) >>>>>>> use the links above. >>>>>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>>>>>> list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Thu Feb 14 17:49:24 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:49:24 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] =?utf-8?q?Johnny_Carson=E2=80=99s_Tea_Time_Movie_Lady?= Message-ID: <57540B80-9813-4497-8E4E-ABE2C918AECF@aol.com> All, Random pic from the past, which came to me from Michael Frazier.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A A --michael cox References Visible links 1. https://youtu.be/egG7fiE89IU?t=46 Hidden links: 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egG7fiE89IU From fresnofinches at aol.com Sat Feb 16 00:38:02 2019 From: fresnofinches at aol.com (Larry Finch) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 21:38:02 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] More random Pantera sightings Message-ID: Michael, Thanks for sharing. Well...... the Pantera scenes were good. ;-) Anyone know who owns the car? Note the wheels. A couple of screen grabs: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.png Type: image/png Size: 178678 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.png Type: image/png Size: 174172 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. From julian_kift at hotmail.com Sat Feb 16 10:59:31 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 15:59:31 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] More random Pantera sightings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone recognize the clown driving? ? Maybe the owner got in the video rather than let soemoen else drive his car? This was circa 2010 so wheels can change (one can hope), but note it appears the side markers are frenched in on this car, that should narrow it down. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:38 PM To: Email List Address For Posting Subject: [DeTomaso] More random Pantera sightings Michael, Thanks for sharing. Well...... the Pantera scenes were good. ;-) Anyone know who owns the car? Note the wheels. A couple of screen grabs: [cid:705c846a-803c-4c78-9755-9f91f949b1cc at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] [cid:0a662290-5059-455e-99e2-2e91840b819d at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Does anyone recognize the clown driving? Maybe the owner got in the video rather than let soemoen else drive his car? This was circa 2010 so wheels can change (one can hope), but note it appears the side markers are frenched in on this car, that should narrow it down. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:38 PM To: Email List Address For Posting Subject: [DeTomaso] More random Pantera sightings Michael, Thanks for sharing. Well...... the Pantera scenes were good. ;-) Anyone know who owns the car? Note the wheels. A couple of screen grabs: [cid:705c846a-803c-4c78-9755-9f91f949b1cc at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] [cid:0a662290-5059-455e-99e2-2e91840b819d at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [1]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 9:00 AM To: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More random Pantera sightings Does anyone recognize the clown driving? ? Maybe the owner got in the video rather than let soemoen else drive his car? This was circa 2010 so wheels can change (one can hope), but note it appears the side markers are frenched in on this car, that should narrow it down. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:38 PM To: Email List Address For Posting Subject: [DeTomaso] More random Pantera sightings Michael, Thanks for sharing. Well...... the Pantera scenes were good. ;-) Anyone know who owns the car? Note the wheels. A couple of screen grabs: [cid:705c846a-803c-4c78-9755-9f91f949b1cc at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] [cid:0a662290-5059-455e-99e2-2e91840b819d at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From detomasoregistry at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 14:10:47 2019 From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 11:10:47 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Armored Deauville Message-ID: <0DC475062B144ADEB2032825D5919151@BOSS3A> The 3rd (of 3) armored Deauvilles produced has surfaced, and is for sale. Details are being added to the registry now. THANKS to Jochen! Here is a clip from the description: Unique "Armored Edition" copy, rare De Tomaso Deauville second series with 89,000 km. Fully armored by De Tomaso for Mr. Keller, owner of the Keller company that supplied trains for the Italian State Railways. This special car was ordered by the owner after he unmasked a magistrate who took bribes to protect wealthy entrepreneurs in Sardinia from kidnappers. The magistrate committed suicide by killing himself during the trial. For fear of repercussions, Mr. Keller ordered this fully armored model with CB radio and fire extinguishing system. Fully armored with top quality Kevlar fibers. Only 3 of its kind (there is only another one, but the first series, which is exhibited in the Italian Police Museum). Only 89,000 km with original mechanical parts. The car has been standing inside for more than 20 years, so it needs a service to bring it back into working order. "Preserved" car with first paint, healthy and rust-free, with signs of aging and non-use. The interior is in a good condition given the age. All historical documents of the car have been attested by the Italian police and the Guardia di Finanza. However, the car has no documents and is only sold with a purchase contract, sales invoice and ACI chronological report. It is possible to register the vehicle in Italy via ASI (Automotoclub Storico Italiano). Please check if the vehicle can be registered in your country. This represents a very rare opportunity to obtain an armored car, and a DeTomaso at that ! Bidding is currently around 38000. Simon or Fred are you interested ? Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp -------------- next part -------------- The 3^rd (of 3) armored Deauvilles produced has surfaced, and is for sale. Details are being added to the registry now... THANKS to Jochen! Here is a clip from the description: Unique "Armored Edition" copy, rare De Tomaso Deauville second series with 89,000 km. Fully armored by De Tomaso for Mr. Keller, owner of the Keller company that supplied trains for the Italian State Railways. This special car was ordered by the owner after he unmasked a magistrate who took bribes to protect wealthy entrepreneurs in Sardinia from kidnappers. The magistrate committed suicide by killing himself during the trial. For fear of repercussions, Mr. Keller ordered this fully armored model with CB radio and fire extinguishing system. Fully armored with top quality Kevlar fibers. Only 3 of its kind (there is only another one, but the first series, which is exhibited in the Italian Police Museum). Only 89,000 km with original mechanical parts. The car has been standing inside for more than 20 years, so it needs a service to bring it back into working order. "Preserved" car with first paint, healthy and rust-free, with signs of aging and non-use. The interior is in a good condition given the age. All historical documents of the car have been attested by the Italian police and the Guardia di Finanza. However, the car has no documents and is only sold with a purchase contract, sales invoice and ACI chronological report. It is possible to register the vehicle in Italy via ASI (Automotoclub Storico Italiano). Please check if the vehicle can be registered in your country. This represents a very rare opportunity to obtain an armored car, and a DeTomaso at that ! Bidding is currently around 38000. Simon or Fred are you interested ? Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp References 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 5ae85db7-656d-4d2f-bc22-d96f73226d77m.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 289623 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jjdetrich at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 14:19:53 2019 From: jjdetrich at gmail.com (Jeff Detrich) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:19:53 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] Armored Deauville In-Reply-To: <0DC475062B144ADEB2032825D5919151@BOSS3A> References: <0DC475062B144ADEB2032825D5919151@BOSS3A> Message-ID: Interesting that it looks like the front bumper tilts down when the bonnet opens. Jeff 6559 On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:11 PM The DeTomaso Registry Guy < detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote: > > > The 3^rd (of 3) armored Deauvilles produced has surfaced, and is for > sale. > > > Details are being added to the registry now... THANKS to Jochen! > > > Here is a clip from the description: > > > Unique "Armored Edition" copy, rare De Tomaso Deauville second series > with 89,000 km. Fully armored by De Tomaso for Mr. Keller, owner of > the Keller company that supplied trains for the Italian State > Railways. This special car was ordered by the owner after he unmasked > a magistrate who took bribes to protect wealthy entrepreneurs in > Sardinia from kidnappers. The magistrate committed suicide by killing > himself during the trial. > > For fear of repercussions, Mr. Keller ordered this fully armored model > with CB radio and fire extinguishing system. Fully armored with top > quality Kevlar fibers. > > > Only 3 of its kind (there is only another one, but the first series, > which is exhibited in the Italian Police Museum). Only 89,000 km with > original mechanical parts. The car has been standing inside for more > than 20 years, so it needs a service to bring it back into working > order. > > "Preserved" car with first paint, healthy and rust-free, with signs of > aging and non-use. The interior is in a good condition given the age. > > > All historical documents of the car have been attested by the Italian > police and the Guardia di Finanza. However, the car has no documents > and is only sold with a purchase contract, sales invoice and ACI > chronological report. It is possible to register the vehicle in Italy > via ASI (Automotoclub Storico Italiano). > > Please check if the vehicle can be registered in your country. > > > > > > This represents a very rare opportunity to obtain an armored car, and a > DeTomaso at that ! > > Bidding is currently around 38000. > > > Simon or Fred are you interested ? > > > Chuck > > > > The De Tomaso Registry Guy > > [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > > References > > 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Interesting that it looks like the front bumper tilts down when the bonnet opens.A Jeff 6559 On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:11 PM The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[1]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote: A A The 3^rd (of 3) armored Deauvilles produced has surfaced, and is for A A sale. A A Details are being added to the registry now...A A THANKSA A to Jochen! A A Here is a clip from the description: A A Unique "Armored Edition" copy, rare De Tomaso Deauville second series A A with 89,000 km.A Fully armored by De Tomaso for Mr. Keller, owner of A A the Keller company that supplied trains for the Italian State A A Railways.A This special car was ordered by the owner after he unmasked A A a magistrate who took bribes to protect wealthy entrepreneurs in A A Sardinia from kidnappers.A The magistrate committed suicide by killing A A himself during the trial. A A For fear of repercussions, Mr. Keller ordered this fully armored model A A with CB radio and fire extinguishing system.A Fully armored with top A A quality Kevlar fibers. A A Only 3 of its kind (there is only another one, but the first series, A A which is exhibited in the Italian Police Museum).A Only 89,000 km with A A original mechanical parts.A The car has been standing inside for more A A than 20 years, so it needs a service to bring it back into working A A order. A A "Preserved" car with first paint, healthy and rust-free, with signs of A A aging and non-use.A The interior is in a good condition given the age. A A All historical documents of the car have been attested by the Italian A A police and the Guardia di Finanza.A However, the car has no documents A A and is only sold with a purchase contract, sales invoice and ACI A A chronological report.A It is possible to register the vehicle in Italy A A via ASI (Automotoclub Storico Italiano). A A Please check if the vehicle can be registered in your country. A A This represents a very rare opportunity to obtain an armored car, and a A A DeTomaso at that ! A A Bidding is currently around 38000. A A Simon or Fred are you interested ? A A Chuck A A The De Tomaso Registry Guy A A [1][2]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp References A A 1. [3]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com 2. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp 3. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp 4. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From charlesmccall at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 14:22:52 2019 From: charlesmccall at gmail.com (Charles McCall) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 00:52:52 +0530 Subject: [DeTomaso] Armored Deauville In-Reply-To: References: <0DC475062B144ADEB2032825D5919151@BOSS3A> Message-ID: <01f301d4c62d$04c6ea80$0e54bf80$@gmail.com> Jeff - it does exactly that. I'll see if I can find a photo - it's interesting to see -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 00:50 To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy Cc: List DeTomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armored Deauville Interesting that it looks like the front bumper tilts down when the bonnet opens. Jeff 6559 On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:11 PM The DeTomaso Registry Guy < detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote: > > > The 3^rd (of 3) armored Deauvilles produced has surfaced, and is for > sale. > > > Details are being added to the registry now... THANKS to Jochen! > > > Here is a clip from the description: > > > Unique "Armored Edition" copy, rare De Tomaso Deauville second series > with 89,000 km. Fully armored by De Tomaso for Mr. Keller, owner of > the Keller company that supplied trains for the Italian State > Railways. This special car was ordered by the owner after he unmasked > a magistrate who took bribes to protect wealthy entrepreneurs in > Sardinia from kidnappers. The magistrate committed suicide by killing > himself during the trial. > > For fear of repercussions, Mr. Keller ordered this fully armored model > with CB radio and fire extinguishing system. Fully armored with top > quality Kevlar fibers. > > > Only 3 of its kind (there is only another one, but the first series, > which is exhibited in the Italian Police Museum). Only 89,000 km with > original mechanical parts. The car has been standing inside for more > than 20 years, so it needs a service to bring it back into working > order. > > "Preserved" car with first paint, healthy and rust-free, with signs of > aging and non-use. The interior is in a good condition given the age. > > > All historical documents of the car have been attested by the Italian > police and the Guardia di Finanza. However, the car has no documents > and is only sold with a purchase contract, sales invoice and ACI > chronological report. It is possible to register the vehicle in Italy > via ASI (Automotoclub Storico Italiano). > > Please check if the vehicle can be registered in your country. > > > > > > This represents a very rare opportunity to obtain an armored car, and a > DeTomaso at that ! > > Bidding is currently around 38000. > > > Simon or Fred are you interested ? > > > Chuck > > > > The De Tomaso Registry Guy > > [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > > References > > 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sat Feb 16 14:31:24 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 11:31:24 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Armored Deauville In-Reply-To: <0DC475062B144ADEB2032825D5919151@BOSS3A> References: <0DC475062B144ADEB2032825D5919151@BOSS3A> Message-ID: <823684E3-9C33-42BC-9F8F-E6E1B5F08173@aol.com> The second armored Deauville was in Arizona, I think . I saw it at Concorso Italiano many years ago. It was burgundy. The doors weighed a ton and the glass was probably an inch thick! Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 16, 2019, at 11:10, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote: > > > > The 3^rd (of 3) armored Deauvilles produced has surfaced, and is for > sale. > > > Details are being added to the registry now... THANKS to Jochen! > > > Here is a clip from the description: > > > Unique "Armored Edition" copy, rare De Tomaso Deauville second series > with 89,000 km. Fully armored by De Tomaso for Mr. Keller, owner of > the Keller company that supplied trains for the Italian State > Railways. This special car was ordered by the owner after he unmasked > a magistrate who took bribes to protect wealthy entrepreneurs in > Sardinia from kidnappers. The magistrate committed suicide by killing > himself during the trial. > > For fear of repercussions, Mr. Keller ordered this fully armored model > with CB radio and fire extinguishing system. Fully armored with top > quality Kevlar fibers. > > > Only 3 of its kind (there is only another one, but the first series, > which is exhibited in the Italian Police Museum). Only 89,000 km with > original mechanical parts. The car has been standing inside for more > than 20 years, so it needs a service to bring it back into working > order. > > "Preserved" car with first paint, healthy and rust-free, with signs of > aging and non-use. The interior is in a good condition given the age. > > > All historical documents of the car have been attested by the Italian > police and the Guardia di Finanza. However, the car has no documents > and is only sold with a purchase contract, sales invoice and ACI > chronological report. It is possible to register the vehicle in Italy > via ASI (Automotoclub Storico Italiano). > > Please check if the vehicle can be registered in your country. > > > > > > This represents a very rare opportunity to obtain an armored car, and a > DeTomaso at that ! > > Bidding is currently around 38000. > > > Simon or Fred are you interested ? > > > Chuck > > > > The De Tomaso Registry Guy > > [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > > References > > 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp > <5ae85db7-656d-4d2f-bc22-d96f73226d77m.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From coreyjprice at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 10:59:50 2019 From: coreyjprice at gmail.com (Corey Price) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:59:50 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud Message-ID: All, For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator discussion... Corey From asajay at asajay.com Wed Feb 20 11:18:52 2019 From: asajay at asajay.com (Asa Jay Laughton) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:18:52 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Corey, I used simple metal brackets had from any hardware store.? Photos with text are here: http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5466 Asa? Jay ?Asa? Jay? Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks? On Feb 20, 2019, 07:59, at 07:59, Corey Price wrote: >All, > >For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, >what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. > >PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator >discussion... > >Corey >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >use the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Hi Corey, I used simple metal brackets had from any hardware store.A Photos with text are here: [1]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view= gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5466 AsaA Jay AsaA JayA Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks On Feb 20, 2019, at 07:59, Corey Price <[2]coreyjprice at gmail.com> wrote: All, For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator discussion... Corey ___________________________________________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li nks above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis t messages. References 1. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5466 2. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From larrys at panteraparts.com Wed Feb 20 11:30:31 2019 From: larrys at panteraparts.com (Larry Stock) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:30:31 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Corey, Here is the breakdown for our Fluidyne Radiator line with the mounted puller fan set up. You can buy it complete or buy the pieces and carefully assume the liability and build it yourself. We have recently released the Mounting Bracket assembly kit PN 11055B to our stock line availability. 11031P PPC Alumuim Fliudyne Radiator $725.00 11055B Fluidyne to Shroud SS brackets set of 3 @ $125.00 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00 11033C Sensor 82 C hexagon threaded $27.50 11033D Sensor 72 C hexagon threaded $27.50 11031X PPC Fliudyne Radiator w/ puller fan assy. $1295.00 Larry Stock, Pantera Parts Connection, 1-800-DeTomaso (338-6627) On 2/20/19, 7:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Corey Price" wrote: >All, > >For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, >what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. > >PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator >discussion... > >Corey >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Johnny Woods in the UK discovered the shroud is a restriction at sustained 150mph autobahn runs and ended up cutting flaps into the shroud that can open with air flow at speed. I have a single programmable t-stat switching both fans, I never saw the point of having one fan only come on, either it needs the air movement to cool or it doesn't, the two fans just run shorter periods than a single. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 8:18 AM Cc: DeTomaso Email List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud Hi Corey, I used simple metal brackets had from any hardware store. Photos with text are here: http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5466 Asa Jay ?Asa Jay Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks? On Feb 20, 2019, 07:59, at 07:59, Corey Price wrote: >All, > >For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, >what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. > >PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator >discussion... > >Corey >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >use the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Corey, I used similar 2500 cfm shrouded Flex-a-lite sucker fans ~$325 and fabricated two simple hook over brackets for the top and bottom of the radiator. I also fabricated stand offs for the radiator to shroud and the rubber sealing strip now stands off the radiator a little to get the optimal 3/4 inch fan blade clearance as bolted straight on the fans were too close to the core. I would not recommend using the through core ties that Flex-a-lite supply, they simply wear through and create leaks in a non repairable radiator. Johnny Woods in the UK discovered the shroud is a restriction at sustained 150mph autobahn runs and ended up cutting flaps into the shroud that can open with air flow at speed. I have a single programmable t-stat switching both fans, I never saw the point of having one fan only come on, either it needs the air movement to cool or it doesn't, the two fans just run shorter periods than a single. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 8:18 AM Cc: DeTomaso Email List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud Hi Corey, I used simple metal brackets had from any hardware store. Photos with text are here: [1]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view= gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5466 Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks On Feb 20, 2019, 07:59, at 07:59, Corey Price wrote: >All, > >For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, >what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. > >PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator >discussion... > >Corey >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >[2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >use the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5466 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From tcabanski at tencom.com Wed Feb 20 13:35:26 2019 From: tcabanski at tencom.com (Tom Cabanski) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:35:26 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud Message-ID: Julian, It does not get real hot on many days up here in Northwest Ohio so I manually switch on the fans. I would not mind going with a set up like you described. Could you send me any info? Thanks, Tom -------------- next part -------------- Julian, It does not get real hot on many days up here in Northwest Ohio so I manually switch on the fans. I would not mind going with a set up like you described. Could you send me any info? Thanks, Tom From thomas at hax.se Wed Feb 20 14:02:56 2019 From: thomas at hax.se (Thomas Tornblom) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:02:56 +0100 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6deab191-3602-1f31-a504-68900ae15483@hax.se> This is the one I had made. The fan is a giant unit for an Audi turbo, and with the corresponding resistor it has three speeds, och which the lower two are controlled by the EFI and I can manually switch on the low and high speeds. /Thomas Den 2019-02-20 kl. 16:59, skrev Corey Price: > All, > > For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. > > PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator discussion... > > Corey > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > !DSPAM:5c6d7986230432282410279! > -- Real life: Thomas T?rnblom Email: thomas at hax.se Snail mail: Banvallsv?gen 14 Phone: +46 18 32 31 18 S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Mobile: +46 76 209 8320 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5073-1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 207229 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jderyke at aol.com Wed Feb 20 14:54:35 2019 From: jderyke at aol.com (jderyke at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 19:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59119845.2415416.1550692475071@mail.yahoo.com> I used a Flexilite sucker- shroud with a small formed sheet adapter that allows air flow at the 4 corners and stands the fans off the core by 2". This maximizes air thru 100% of the core and allows the air to make a right angle turn out from core to shroud. I laid the radiator ass'y down with straps to allow better air flow out of the shroud. And there was still enough room for the A/C evaporator in front. Works for me-J DeRyke -----Original Message----- From: Corey Price To: Detomaso List Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 8:00 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud All, For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator discussion... Corey _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I used a Flexilite sucker- shroud with a small formed sheet adapter that allows air flow at the 4 corners and stands the fans off the core by 2". This maximizes air thru 100% of the core and allows the air to make a right angle turn out from core to shroud. I laid the radiator ass'y down with straps to allow better air flow out of the shroud. And there was still enough room for the A/C evaporator in front. Works for me-J DeRyke -----Original Message----- From: Corey Price To: Detomaso List Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 8:00 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fluidyne Radiator Shroud All, For those of you with Fluidyne radiators and aftermarket sucker fans, what have you done for a shroud or fan mounting? Pictures are helpful. PS: please don't make this an aluminum versus brass radiator discussion... Corey _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [1]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 16:54:36 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Rossignolo and son convicted on 2012 DeTomaso Company Fraud References: <1074823865.2498085.1550699676835.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1074823865.2498085.1550699676835@mail.yahoo.com> http://www.ansa.it/english/news/business/2019/02/20/rossignolo-son-convicted-on-de-tomaso_83d7b483-3cec-42e3-9656-331790fb48dd.html -------------- next part -------------- [1]http://www.ansa.it/english/news/business/2019/02/20/rossignolo-son-c onvicted-on-de-tomaso_83d7b483-3cec-42e3-9656-331790fb48dd.html References 1. http://www.ansa.it/english/news/business/2019/02/20/rossignolo-son-convicted-on-de-tomaso_83d7b483-3cec-42e3-9656-331790fb48dd.html From chrisvkimball at msn.com Wed Feb 20 16:59:06 2019 From: chrisvkimball at msn.com (Christopher Kimball) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:59:06 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Rossignolo and son convicted on 2012 DeTomaso Company Fraud In-Reply-To: <1074823865.2498085.1550699676835@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1074823865.2498085.1550699676835.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <1074823865.2498085.1550699676835@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow. ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:54 PM To: DeTomaso Mail List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rossignolo and son convicted on 2012 DeTomaso Company Fraud https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ansa.it%2Fenglish%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2F2019%2F02%2F20%2Frossignolo-son-convicted-on-de-tomaso_83d7b483-3cec-42e3-9656-331790fb48dd.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cae12b15880c0416d2b9108d6977e0791%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636862964881192549&sdata=K1gfVmfa9HmdsdIogFspdahDKsLf28%2F4gd7OJ2ky5ig%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- Wow. __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:54 PM To: DeTomaso Mail List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rossignolo and son convicted on 2012 DeTomaso Company Fraud [1]https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .ansa.it%2Fenglish%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2F2019%2F02%2F20%2Frossignolo-son- convicted-on-de-tomaso_83d7b483-3cec-42e3-9656-331790fb48dd.html&da ta=02%7C01%7C%7Cae12b15880c0416d2b9108d6977e0791%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636862964881192549&sdata=K1gfVmfa9HmdsdIogFs pdahDKsLf28%2F4gd7OJ2ky5ig%3D&reserved=0 References 1. https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ansa.it%2Fenglish%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2F2019%2F02%2F20%2Frossignolo-son-convicted-on-de-tomaso_83d7b483-3cec-42e3-9656-331790fb48dd.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cae12b15880c0416d2b9108d6977e0791%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636862964881192549&sdata=K1gfVmfa9HmdsdIogFspdahDKsLf28%2F4gd7OJ2ky5ig%3D&reserved=0 From MikeLDrew at aol.com Wed Feb 20 17:30:25 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:30:25 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity Message-ID: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> Guys, You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous notable differences. Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 110636 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 101949 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are markedly different. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image3.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 114549 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn about the ones in his inventory? Dan Jones?considering that these are primarily being used on relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would you guess are superior? Mike Sent from my iPad From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 18:40:40 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT References: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com> Just the messenger... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ -------------- next part -------------- Just the messenger... [1]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ References 1. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 20 19:00:18 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:00:18 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com> References: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: Just the messenger... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ From chrisvkimball at msn.com Wed Feb 20 19:04:41 2019 From: chrisvkimball at msn.com (Christopher Kimball) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:04:41 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: References: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: All I can say is, "I see rust... RUN!!!" ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 4:00 PM To: Garth Rodericks; DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: Just the messenger... https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbringatrailer.com%2Flisting%2F1973-detomaso-pantera-17%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05331e763f8944c2cd5308d6978f98cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636863040335287056&sdata=ArJ17Jq0K0DrsY0RFyFYi1DOZAp%2BPOcdKdnWJDxxjUo%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05331e763f8944c2cd5308d6978f98cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636863040335287056&sdata=r%2F6bG3Jzad9VTmkc%2FT7rxfTFhw5Ht38UWrLg3bUPwtM%3D&reserved=0 To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: Just the messenger... 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References 1. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbringatrailer.com%2Flisting%2F1973-detomaso-pantera-17%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05331e763f8944c2cd5308d6978f98cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636863040335287056&sdata=ArJ17Jq0K0DrsY0RFyFYi1DOZAp%2BPOcdKdnWJDxxjUo%3D&reserved=0 2. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7C05331e763f8944c2cd5308d6978f98cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636863040335287056&sdata=r%2F6bG3Jzad9VTmkc%2FT7rxfTFhw5Ht38UWrLg3bUPwtM%3D&reserved=0 From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 19:41:45 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: References: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38030921.2572674.1550709705035@mail.yahoo.com> Well, all you gotta do is click the "Watch" icon at the top of the page and you'll get an email with the final price when the auction ends.? BAT is basically Tinder for gearheads!? Several times it's nearly caused uncomfortable conversations with my wife...? :) On Wednesday, February 20, 2019, 4:00:29 PM PST, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell:? ? (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: ? ? Just the messenger... ? ? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- Well, all you gotta do is click the "Watch" icon at the top of the page and you'll get an email with the final price when the auction ends. BAT is basically Tinder for gearheads! Several times it's nearly caused uncomfortable conversations with my wife... :) On Wednesday, February 20, 2019, 4:00:29 PM PST, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov d--od-, i>>?On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Just the messenger... [4]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ References 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ From billmoore6480 at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 20:33:07 2019 From: billmoore6480 at gmail.com (billmoore6480) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:33:07 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT....? ?It's not Rocket Science.? Sorry you walked into that one.Bill Moore?403-860-4300Calgary, Alberta -------- Original message --------From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone),When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion LaboratoryDawn Spacecraft TeamJuno Systems & Software TeamTGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261Cell:???? (818) 653-8213thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?? ?On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote:??? Just the messenger...??? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/??? ??? ??? ??? ??? _______________________________________________Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCAPosted emails must not exceed 1.5 MegabytesDeTomaso mailing listDeTomaso at server.detomasolist.comhttp://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomasoTo manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. Bill Moore 403-860-4300 Calgary, Alberta -------- Original message -------- From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: Just the messenger... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From stevelisa at patentit.com Wed Feb 20 20:55:30 2019 From: stevelisa at patentit.com (Steve Lisa) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:55:30 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> References: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc. Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again. ? Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 www.PatentIt.com *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656 | *F:* 480.535.6628 | *A:* 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357 | *F:* 312.896.5633 | *A:* 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 wrote: > Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not > Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. > > Bill Moore > > 403-860-4300 > > Calgary, Alberta > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" > > Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > > Garth (or anyone), > When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. > Terry > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Dawn Spacecraft Team > Juno Systems & Software Team > TGO Sequence Lead > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via > DeTomaso" detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > Just the messenger... > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict.A Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc.A A Run, run, run.... as far away as you can.A Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again.A A d- Regards,A Steven G. Lisa, Esq. The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA Direct: 312-320-5888 [1]www.PatentIt.com Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 <[2]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote: A A Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT....A A It's not A A Rocket Science.A Sorry you walked into that one. A A Bill Moore A A 403-860-4300 A A Calgary, Alberta A A -------- Original message -------- A A From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" A A <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> A A Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) A A To: Garth Rodericks <[4]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso Mail List A A <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT A A Garth (or anyone), A A When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. A A Terry A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" A A Terry W. 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References 1. http://www.patentit.com/ 2. mailto:billmoore6480 at gmail.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 8. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 9. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 10. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 12. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 13. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 20 20:58:05 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 01:58:05 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> References: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1A515DDD-1096-4BFE-AB9D-60A1632AA33B@jpl.nasa.gov> Watch it. I have control over several spacecraft, and I know where you live. And your Pantera can be spotted from 200km above. ? BTW ? The next time I?m in Baniff I will give you a shout. I LOVE that area. One of the 10 most B.E.A.utiful places on earth. No exaggeration. https://thimes.smugmug.com/Vacation-Travel/2017Canada "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? From: billmoore6480 Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:33 PM To: Terry Himes , Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. Bill Moore 403-860-4300 Calgary, Alberta -------- Original message -------- From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: Just the messenger... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Watch it. I have control over several spacecraft, and I know where you live. And your Pantera can be spotted from 200km above. 😉 BTW - The next time I'm in Baniff I will give you a shout. I LOVE that area. One of the 10 most B.E.A.utiful places on earth. No exaggeration. [1]https://thimes.smugmug.com/Vacation-Travel/2017Canada "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 🇺🇸 From: billmoore6480 Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:33 PM To: Terry Himes , Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. Bill Moore 403-860-4300 Calgary, Alberta -------- Original message -------- From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 🇺🇸 On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" wrote: Just the messenger... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://thimes.smugmug.com/Vacation-Travel/2017Canada 2. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 20 21:02:16 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 02:02:16 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> Message-ID: I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in 2001 and never had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with nothing crazy. Engine runs perfect! "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Reply-To: Mike Drew Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM To: De Tomaso Forum Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity Guys, You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous notable differences. Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: [cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl] [cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl] What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are markedly different. [cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl] Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn about the ones in his inventory? Dan Jones?considering that these are primarily being used on relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would you guess are superior? Mike Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in 2001 and never had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with nothing crazy. Engine runs perfect! "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Reply-To: Mike Drew Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM To: De Tomaso Forum Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity Guys, You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous notable differences. Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are markedly different. cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn about the ones in his inventory? Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would you guess are superior? Mike Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? From: Steve Lisa Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:56 PM To: billmoore6480 Cc: Terry Himes , Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc. Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again. ? Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 www.PatentIt.com Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656 | F: 480.535.6628 | A: 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357 | F: 312.896.5633 | A: 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 > wrote: Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. Bill Moore 403-860-4300 Calgary, Alberta -------- Original message -------- From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" > Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Garth Rodericks >, DeTomaso Mail List > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Just the messenger... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 🇺🇸 From: Steve Lisa Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:56 PM To: billmoore6480 Cc: Terry Himes , Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc. Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again. 😋 Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 [2]www.PatentIt.com Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656 | F: 480.535.6628 | A: 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357 | F: 312.896.5633 | A: 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 <[3]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote: Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. Bill Moore 403-860-4300 Calgary, Alberta -------- Original message -------- From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Garth Rodericks <[5]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso Mail List <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Garth (or anyone), When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 [7]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Just the messenger... [10]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [11]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [12]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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References 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 2. http://www.patentit.com/ 3. mailto:billmoore6480 at gmail.com 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com 6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 10. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From tipo874a at msn.com Wed Feb 20 22:23:09 2019 From: tipo874a at msn.com (L GRAY) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 03:23:09 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com>, Message-ID: The other ?odd? set is probably for a set of old SVO high port heads. That?s my best educated guess after having worked for Hall for several years. Leslie A. Gray > On Feb 20, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote: > > I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in > 2001 and never > > had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with > nothing crazy. > > Engine runs perfect! > > > > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > > > Terry W. Himes > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > > Dawn Spacecraft Team > > Juno Systems & Software Team > > TGO Sequence Lead > > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > > 🇺🇸 > > > > From: DeTomaso on behalf of > Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Reply-To: Mike Drew > Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM > To: De Tomaso Forum > Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity > > > Guys, > You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of > used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of > you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are > both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous > notable differences. > Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock > Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd > considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: > > cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl > > > cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl > > What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that > arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are > markedly different. > > cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl > > Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly > shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch > primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much > larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. > I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the > thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller > collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in > his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn > about the ones in his inventory? > Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on > relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would > you guess are superior? > Mike > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From MikeLDrew at aol.com Wed Feb 20 22:59:59 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 19:59:59 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> Message-ID: Les, Yes people have suggested that. But would those fit on a regular 351C? Larry Stock sent me a photo of a ton of headers in a box and I thought most of not all were the round port style? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 20, 2019, at 19:23, L GRAY wrote: > > The other ?odd? set is probably for a set of old SVO high port heads. That?s my best educated guess after having worked for Hall for several years. > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 20, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote: >> >> I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in >> 2001 and never >> >> had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with >> nothing crazy. >> >> Engine runs perfect! >> >> >> >> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >> >> >> Terry W. Himes >> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team >> >> Juno Systems & Software Team >> >> TGO Sequence Lead >> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261 >> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213 >> >> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >> >> 🇺🇸 >> >> >> >> From: DeTomaso on behalf of >> Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Reply-To: Mike Drew >> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM >> To: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity >> >> >> Guys, >> You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of >> used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of >> you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are >> both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous >> notable differences. >> Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock >> Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd >> considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: >> >> cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl >> >> >> cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl >> >> What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that >> arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are >> markedly different. >> >> cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl >> >> Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly >> shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch >> primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much >> larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. >> I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the >> thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller >> collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in >> his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn >> about the ones in his inventory? >> Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on >> relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would >> you guess are superior? >> Mike >> Sent from my iPad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. 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From julian_kift at hotmail.com Wed Feb 20 23:07:11 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 04:07:11 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> , Message-ID: Coincidentally, I was watching the episode of "My Classic Car' on Gary Walker's Pantera and now believe we may be confusing two different brands, if Dennis Gage is to be believed there was also an outfit supplying aftermarket parts called "Hal" ? https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjh FWIW I'm pretty sure the ones I had were of the square flange design, but they were sold long ago so no way to verify. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:59 PM To: L GRAY Cc: De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity Les, Yes people have suggested that. But would those fit on a regular 351C? Larry Stock sent me a photo of a ton of headers in a box and I thought most of not all were the round port style? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 20, 2019, at 19:23, L GRAY wrote: > > The other ?odd? set is probably for a set of old SVO high port heads. That?s my best educated guess after having worked for Hall for several years. > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 20, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote: >> >> I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in >> 2001 and never >> >> had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with >> nothing crazy. >> >> Engine runs perfect! >> >> >> >> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >> >> >> Terry W. Himes >> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team >> >> Juno Systems & Software Team >> >> TGO Sequence Lead >> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261 >> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213 >> >> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >> >> 🇺🇸 >> >> >> >> From: DeTomaso on behalf of >> Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Reply-To: Mike Drew >> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM >> To: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity >> >> >> Guys, >> You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of >> used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of >> you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are >> both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous >> notable differences. >> Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock >> Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd >> considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: >> >> cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl >> >> >> cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl >> >> What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that >> arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are >> markedly different. >> >> cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl >> >> Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly >> shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch >> primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much >> larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. >> I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the >> thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller >> collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in >> his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn >> about the ones in his inventory? >> Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on >> relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would >> you guess are superior? >> Mike >> Sent from my iPad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Coincidentally, I was watching the episode of "My Classic Car' on Gary Walker's Pantera and now believe we may be confusing two different brands, if Dennis Gage is to be believed there was also an outfit supplying aftermarket parts called "Hal" [1]https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjh FWIW I'm pretty sure the ones I had were of the square flange design, but they were sold long ago so no way to verify. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:59 PM To: L GRAY Cc: De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity Les, Yes people have suggested that. But would those fit on a regular 351C? Larry Stock sent me a photo of a ton of headers in a box and I thought most of not all were the round port style? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 20, 2019, at 19:23, L GRAY wrote: > > The other "odd" set is probably for a set of old SVO high port heads. That's my best educated guess after having worked for Hall for several years. > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 20, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote: >> >> I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in >> 2001 and never >> >> had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with >> nothing crazy. >> >> Engine runs perfect! >> >> >> >> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >> >> >> Terry W. Himes >> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team >> >> Juno Systems & Software Team >> >> TGO Sequence Lead >> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261 >> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213 >> >> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >> >> 🇺🇸 >> >> >> >> From: DeTomaso on behalf of >> Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Reply-To: Mike Drew >> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM >> To: De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity >> >> >> Guys, >> You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of >> used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of >> you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are >> both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous >> notable differences. >> Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock >> Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd >> considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: >> >> cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl >> >> >> cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl >> >> What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that >> arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are >> markedly different. >> >> cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl >> >> Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly >> shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch >> primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much >> larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. >> I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the >> thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller >> collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in >> his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn >> about the ones in his inventory? >> Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on >> relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would >> you guess are superior? >> Mike >> Sent from my iPad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >> or approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> References >> >> 1. [2]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >> 2. 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References 1. https://youtu.be/yPHTPskrjhs 2. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From tipo874a at msn.com Thu Feb 21 00:12:48 2019 From: tipo874a at msn.com (L GRAY) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 05:12:48 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> Message-ID: Mike, The big bores for standard 4V steel heads were semi rectangular with that odd intrusion caused by the header bolt area. The Ford SVO alloy heads had different port heights and some had purely round port configuration. Those headers ?would? bolt to steel standard port location but would eventually eject the gasket, do to the closeness of the port cooking the gasket and blowing it out. One of your pic?s clearly shows the misalignment of the exhaust running into the offset flange. Leslie A. Gray > On Feb 20, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Mike Drew wrote: > > Les, > > Yes people have suggested that. But would those fit on a regular 351C? > > Larry Stock sent me a photo of a ton of headers in a box and I thought most of not all were the round port style? > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 20, 2019, at 19:23, L GRAY wrote: >> >> The other ?odd? set is probably for a set of old SVO high port heads. That?s my best educated guess after having worked for Hall for several years. >> >> Leslie A. Gray >> >>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote: >>> >>> I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in >>> 2001 and never >>> >>> had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with >>> nothing crazy. >>> >>> Engine runs perfect! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >>> >>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >>> >>> >>> Terry W. Himes >>> >>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >>> >>> Dawn Spacecraft Team >>> >>> Juno Systems & Software Team >>> >>> TGO Sequence Lead >>> >>> Phone: (818) 393-6261 >>> >>> Cell: (818) 653-8213 >>> >>> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >>> >>> 🇺🇸 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: DeTomaso on behalf of >>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>> Reply-To: Mike Drew >>> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM >>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity >>> >>> >>> Guys, >>> You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of >>> used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of >>> you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are >>> both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous >>> notable differences. >>> Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock >>> Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd >>> considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: >>> >>> cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl >>> >>> >>> cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl >>> >>> What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that >>> arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are >>> markedly different. >>> >>> cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl >>> >>> Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly >>> shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch >>> primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much >>> larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. >>> I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the >>> thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller >>> collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in >>> his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn >>> about the ones in his inventory? >>> Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on >>> relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would >>> you guess are superior? >>> Mike >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>> use the links above. >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >>> or approve the archiving of list messages. >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >>> 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > From MikeLDrew at aol.com Thu Feb 21 00:34:46 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:34:46 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> Message-ID: <282B4454-672E-408C-A54A-5C7F2180F72A@aol.com> Ah, good to know. So, that means I probably need to find a third set of Hall headers now...the ones configured for the standard heads. And I can make somebody a great deal on a pair that are configured for round port SVO heads...:) Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 20, 2019, at 21:12, L GRAY wrote: > > Mike, > The big bores for standard 4V steel heads were semi rectangular with that odd intrusion caused by the header bolt area. > The Ford SVO alloy heads had different port heights and some had purely round port configuration. Those headers ?would? bolt to steel standard port location but would eventually eject the gasket, do to the closeness of the port cooking the gasket and blowing it out. > One of your pic?s clearly shows the misalignment of the exhaust running into the offset flange. > > Leslie A. Gray > >> On Feb 20, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Mike Drew wrote: >> >> Les, >> >> Yes people have suggested that. But would those fit on a regular 351C? >> >> Larry Stock sent me a photo of a ton of headers in a box and I thought most of not all were the round port style? >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 19:23, L GRAY wrote: >>> >>> The other ?odd? set is probably for a set of old SVO high port heads. That?s my best educated guess after having worked for Hall for several years. >>> >>> Leslie A. Gray >>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote: >>>> >>>> I remember my Hall Big Bores having rectangular holes. I put them on in >>>> 2001 and never >>>> >>>> had any problems! They sound great. I had a mild engine rebuild with >>>> nothing crazy. >>>> >>>> Engine runs perfect! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >>>> >>>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Terry W. Himes >>>> >>>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >>>> >>>> Dawn Spacecraft Team >>>> >>>> Juno Systems & Software Team >>>> >>>> TGO Sequence Lead >>>> >>>> Phone: (818) 393-6261 >>>> >>>> Cell: (818) 653-8213 >>>> >>>> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >>>> >>>> 🇺🇸 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: DeTomaso on behalf of >>>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso >>>> Reply-To: Mike Drew >>>> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM >>>> To: De Tomaso Forum >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity >>>> >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of >>>> used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of >>>> you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are >>>> both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous >>>> notable differences. >>>> Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock >>>> Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd >>>> considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: >>>> >>>> cid:4804ffda-ba7f-4b95-b374-5bb141d9b93b at ad.jpl >>>> >>>> >>>> cid:a947d306-5e54-421d-800b-0f8f28912a33 at ad.jpl >>>> >>>> What is interesting to me is that the second set of Hall headers that >>>> arrived today, which in theory are supposed to be the same, are >>>> markedly different. >>>> >>>> cid:31b92da3-85c7-48b9-8d24-516f92c92a7d at ad.jpl >>>> >>>> Although dimensionally they are the same, the second set has properly >>>> shaped flanges. What is most surprising is that they have 1 3/4-inch >>>> primaries and a 2 3/16-inch collector while the first ones have much >>>> larger 2-inch primaries and yet smaller 2 1/16-inch collectors. >>>> I find this odd in the extreme. I believe the vast majority of the >>>> thousands of Hall headers out there have the larger pipes and smaller >>>> collectors. Larry Stock has a whole bunch of these rattling around in >>>> his shop. Perhaps we can convince Larry to share what he can learn >>>> about the ones in his inventory? >>>> Dan Jones--considering that these are primarily being used on >>>> relatively mild engines, often through stock mufflers, which ones would >>>> you guess are superior? >>>> Mike >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >>>> use the links above. >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >>>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >>>> or approve the archiving of list messages. >>>> >>>> References >>>> >>>> 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov >>>> 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >>>> >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. >> From lotus0005 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 21 17:21:05 2019 From: lotus0005 at hotmail.com (Bill Lewis) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:21:05 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: References: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com>, Message-ID: Sigh!! ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:55 AM To: billmoore6480 Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc. Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again. ? Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 www.PatentIt.com *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656 | *F:* 480.535.6628 | *A:* 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357 | *F:* 312.896.5633 | *A:* 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 wrote: > Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not > Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. > > Bill Moore > > 403-860-4300 > > Calgary, Alberta > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" > > Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > > Garth (or anyone), > When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. > Terry > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Dawn Spacecraft Team > Juno Systems & Software Team > TGO Sequence Lead > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via > DeTomaso" detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > Just the messenger... > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Sigh!! __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:55 AM To: billmoore6480 Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc. Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again. Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 [1]www.PatentIt.com <[2]http://www.patentit.com/> *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656 | *F:* 480.535.6628 | *A:* 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357 | *F:* 312.896.5633 | *A:* 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 wrote: > Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not > Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. > > Bill Moore > > 403-860-4300 > > Calgary, Alberta > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" > > Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail List > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > > Garth (or anyone), > When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. > Terry > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Dawn Spacecraft Team > Juno Systems & Software Team > TGO Sequence Lead > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via > DeTomaso" detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > Just the messenger... > [3]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://www.PatentIt.com/ 2. http://www.patentit.com/ 3. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From notstock at yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 17:47:40 2019 From: notstock at yahoo.com (j g) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: References: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <838127895.3134791.1550789260987@mail.yahoo.com> I looked at this car almost 10 years ago , as?I remember it was beside the road?with a for sale sign ?and I stopped and went back to look at it.As I remember The car had been hit on the passenger side front ?and was not straight .There was lots of? rust? at every sheet metal to sheet metal interface , the hood inner metal had separated from the hood itself , The lower radiator looked pretty corroded,? the fan motor was bad and dragging, switch knobs were missing.Looked like lots of rust away under the lower windshield trim ledge all around and some evidence of water intrusion in to the trunk and dash area. Lots of areas underneath the car looked possibly thin .They wanted 35k back then but it looked a lot worse than in the pictures on BAT . Almost wished I would have made an offer back then but I had too many cars already as projects and my wife threatened to walk away if I bought it. jg From: Bill Lewis To: Steve Lisa Cc: DeTomaso Mail List Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT ? Sigh!! ? ? __________________________________________________________________ ? From: DeTomaso on behalf of ? Steve Lisa ? Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:55 AM ? To: billmoore6480 ? Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT ? Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. ? Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ? ending today, comments, etc. ? Run, run, run.... as far away as you can.? Do not click "watch," do not ? ever visit BAT again. ? Regards, ? Steven G. Lisa, Esq. ? *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* ? Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com ? Direct: 312-320-5888 ? [1]www.PatentIt.com <[2]http://www.patentit.com/> ? *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656? |? *F:* 480.535.6628? |? *A:* ? 7689 ? East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 ? *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357? |? *F:* 312.896.5633? |? *A:* 55 ? E. ? Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 ? This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain ? confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in ? error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank ? you. ? On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 ? wrote: ? >? ? Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT....? It's not ? >? ? Rocket Science.? Sorry you walked into that one. ? > ? >? ? Bill Moore ? > ? >? ? 403-860-4300 ? > ? >? ? Calgary, Alberta ? > ? >? ? -------- Original message -------- ? >? ? From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" ? >? ? ? >? ? Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) ? >? ? To: Garth Rodericks , DeTomaso Mail ? List ? >? ? ? >? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT ? > ? >? ? Garth (or anyone), ? >? ? When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling ? price. ? >? ? Terry ? >? ? "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, ? >? ? stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" ? >? ? Terry W. Himes ? >? ? JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory ? >? ? Dawn Spacecraft Team ? >? ? Juno Systems & Software Team ? >? ? TGO Sequence Lead ? >? ? Phone: (818) 393-6261 ? >? ? Cell:? ? (818) 653-8213 ? >? ? thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ? >? ? On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via ? >? ? DeTomaso" ? ? detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: ? >? ? ? ? Just the messenger... ? >? ? ? ? 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References ? 1. http://www.PatentIt.com/ ? 2. http://www.patentit.com/ ? 3. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ ? 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ? 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I looked at this car almost 10 years ago , as I remember it was beside the road with a for sale sign and I stopped and went back to look at it. As I remember The car had been hit on the passenger side front and was not straight .There was lots of rust at every sheet metal to sheet metal interface , the hood inner metal had separated from the hood itself , The lower radiator looked pretty corroded, the fan motor was bad and dragging, switch knobs were missing. Looked like lots of rust away under the lower windshield trim ledge all around and some evidence of water intrusion in to the trunk and dash area. Lots of areas underneath the car looked possibly thin . They wanted 35k back then but it looked a lot worse than in the pictures on BAT . Almost wished I would have made an offer back then but I had too many cars already as projects and my wife threatened to walk away if I bought it. jg __________________________________________________________________ From: Bill Lewis To: Steve Lisa Cc: DeTomaso Mail List Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Sigh!! __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Steve Lisa <[2]stevelisa at patentit.com> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:55 AM To: billmoore6480 Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an addict. Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those ending today, comments, etc. Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do not ever visit BAT again. Regards, Steven G. Lisa, Esq. *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* Email: [3]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com Direct: 312-320-5888 [1]www.PatentIt.com <[2][4]http://www.patentit.com/> *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656 | *F:* 480.535.6628 | *A:* 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357 | *F:* 312.896.5633 | *A:* 55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 <[5]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote: > Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's not > Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. > > Bill Moore > > 403-860-4300 > > Calgary, Alberta > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" > <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> > Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: Garth Rodericks <[7]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso Mail List > <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > > Garth (or anyone), > When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling price. > Terry > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Dawn Spacecraft Team > Juno Systems & Software Team > TGO Sequence Lead > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > [9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via > DeTomaso" <[10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of > [11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > Just the messenger... > [3][12]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [4][14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [15]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [5][16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. References 1. [17]http://www.PatentIt.com/ 2. [18]http://www.patentit.com/ 3. [19]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 4. [20]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 5. [21]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [22]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [23]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 2. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 3. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 4. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 5. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 6. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 7. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 8. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 9. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 10. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 11. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 12. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 13. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 14. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 15. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 16. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 17. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 18. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 19. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 20. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 21. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 22. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html 23. file://localhost/tmp/tmpv7v3ri.html From jjdetrich at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 23:02:07 2019 From: jjdetrich at gmail.com (Jeff Detrich) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:02:07 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com> References: <824574865.2558265.1550706040289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <824574865.2558265.1550706040289@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nick, the seller, is a collector and pretty much tells the truth. I can put you in touch with his mechanic, Mike Ditucci, if you'd llike to learn more. Jeff 6559 Dallas On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 5:41 PM Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso < detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > Just the messenger... > > [1]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > > References > > 1. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Nick, the seller, is a collector and pretty much tells the truth. I can put you in touch with his mechanic, Mike Ditucci,A if you'd llike to learn more. Jeff 6559 Dallas On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 5:41 PM Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A Just the messenger... A A [1][2]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ References A A 1. [3]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 3. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 4. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From jjdetrich at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 23:04:12 2019 From: jjdetrich at gmail.com (Jeff Detrich) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:04:12 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT In-Reply-To: <838127895.3134791.1550789260987@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5c6dffd6.1c69fb81.f30ac.ca0b@mx.google.com> <838127895.3134791.1550789260987@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I can put you in touch with his mechanic, Mike Ditucci, an owner and president of the DFW chapter, if you'd like to learn more. Jeff 6559 On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:47 PM j g via DeTomaso < detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > I looked at this car almost 10 years ago , as I remember it was beside > the road with a for sale sign and I stopped and went back to look at > it. > As I remember The car had been hit on the passenger side front and was > not straight .There was lots of rust at every sheet metal to sheet > metal interface , the hood inner metal had separated from the hood > itself , The lower radiator looked pretty corroded, the fan motor was > bad and dragging, switch knobs were missing. > Looked like lots of rust away under the lower windshield trim ledge all > around and some evidence of water intrusion in to the trunk and dash > area. Lots of areas underneath the car looked possibly thin . > They wanted 35k back then but it looked a lot worse than in the > pictures on BAT . Almost wished I would have made an offer back then > but I had too many cars already as projects and my wife threatened to > walk away if I bought it. > jg > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: Bill Lewis > To: Steve Lisa > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > Sigh!! > __________________________________________________________________ > From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on > behalf of > Steve Lisa <[2]stevelisa at patentit.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:55 AM > To: billmoore6480 > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an > addict. > Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those > ending today, comments, etc. > Run, run, run.... as far away as you can. Do not click "watch," do > not > ever visit BAT again. > Regards, > Steven G. Lisa, Esq. > *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* > Email: [3]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com > Direct: 312-320-5888 > [1]www.PatentIt.com <[2][4]http://www.patentit.com/> > *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656 | *F:* 480.535.6628 | > *A:* > 7689 > East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 > *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357 | *F:* 312.896.5633 | *A:* > 55 > E. > Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 > This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain > confidential and privileged information. If you received this email > in > error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. > Thank > you. > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 > <[5]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT.... It's > not > > Rocket Science. Sorry you walked into that one. > > > > Bill Moore > > > > 403-860-4300 > > > > Calgary, Alberta > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" > > <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> > > Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > > To: Garth Rodericks <[7]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso > Mail > List > > <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT > > > > Garth (or anyone), > > When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling > price. > > Terry > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > > Terry W. Himes > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > > Dawn Spacecraft Team > > Juno Systems & Software Team > > TGO Sequence Lead > > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > > [9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > > On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via > > DeTomaso" <[10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on > behalf of > > [11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Just the messenger... > > > [3][12]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [13]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [4][14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) > > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to > forward > any > > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > the > > list. 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Jeff 6559 On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:47 PM j g via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A I looked at this car almost 10 years ago , as I remember it was beside A A the road with a for sale signA and I stopped and went back to look at A A it. A A As I remember The car had been hit on the passenger side frontA and was A A not straight .There was lots ofA rustA at every sheet metal to sheet A A metal interface , the hood inner metal had separated from the hood A A itself , The lower radiator looked pretty corroded,A the fan motor was A A bad and dragging, switch knobs were missing. A A Looked like lots of rust away under the lower windshield trim ledge all A A around and some evidence of water intrusion in to the trunk and dash A A area. Lots of areas underneath the car looked possibly thin . A A They wanted 35k back then but it looked a lot worse than in the A A pictures on BAT . Almost wished I would have made an offer back then A A but I had too many cars already as projects and my wife threatened to A A walk away if I bought it. A A jg A A A __________________________________________________________________ A A From: Bill Lewis <[2]lotus0005 at hotmail.com> A A To: Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com> A A Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> A A Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:21 PM A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT A A A Sigh!! A A A A __________________________________________________________________ A A A From: DeTomaso <[1][5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on A A behalf of A A A Steve Lisa <[2][6]stevelisa at patentit.com> A A A Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:55 AM A A A To: billmoore6480 A A A Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Garth Rodericks A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT A A A Unfortunately, once you click "Watch" on BAT you will become an A A addict. A A A Your mornings begin by loggin on to see new auctions, prices on those A A A ending today, comments, etc. A A A Run, run, run.... as far away as you can.A Do not click "watch," do A A not A A A ever visit BAT again. A A A Regards, A A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq. A A A *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC* A A A Email: [3]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com A A A Direct: 312-320-5888 A A A [1][7]www.PatentIt.com <[2][4][8]http://www.patentit.com/> A A A *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656A |A *F:* 480.535.6628A | A A *A:* A A A 7689 A A A East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 A A A *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357A |A *F:* 312.896.5633A |A *A:* A A 55 A A A E. A A A Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603 A A A This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain A A A confidential and privileged information. If you received this email A A in A A A error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. A A Thank A A A you. A A A On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:33 PM billmoore6480 A A <[5][9]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> A A A wrote: A A A >A A Jeepers kreepers Terry, just follow the sale on BAT....A It's A A not A A A >A A Rocket Science.A Sorry you walked into that one. A A A > A A A >A A Bill Moore A A A > A A A >A A 403-860-4300 A A A > A A A >A A Calgary, Alberta A A A > A A A >A A -------- Original message -------- A A A >A A From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" A A A >A A <[6][10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> A A A >A A Date: 2019-02-20 5:00 PM (GMT-07:00) A A A >A A To: Garth Rodericks <[7][11]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso A A Mail A A A List A A A >A A <[8][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> A A A >A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 73 Pantera on BAT A A A > A A A >A A Garth (or anyone), A A A >A A When this sells I would be very interested in the final selling A A A price. A A A >A A Terry A A A >A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, A A A >A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" A A A >A A Terry W. Himes A A A >A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory A A A >A A Dawn Spacecraft Team A A A >A A Juno Systems & Software Team A A A >A A TGO Sequence Lead A A A >A A Phone: (818) 393-6261 A A A >A A Cell:A A (818) 653-8213 A A A >A A [9][13]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov A A A >A A On 2/20/19, 3:41 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Garth Rodericks via A A A >A A DeTomaso" <[10][14]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on A A behalf of A A A >A A [11][15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A A >A A A A Just the messenger... 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References 1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com 3. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com 7. http://www.PatentIt.com/ 8. http://www.patentit.com/ 9. mailto:billmoore6480 at gmail.com 10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com 12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 13. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov 14. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 15. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 16. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 17. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 18. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 19. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 20. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 21. http://www.PatentIt.com/ 22. http://www.patentit.com/ 23. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-detomaso-pantera-17/ 24. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 25. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 26. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 27. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 28. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 29. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From levitt1946 at aol.com Sat Feb 23 15:30:14 2019 From: levitt1946 at aol.com (Robert Levitt) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 20:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] 1973 Detomaso Pantera 5500 miles References: <1116404075.4155295.1550953814538.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1116404075.4155295.1550953814538@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Friends , I am helping a friend sell this completely restored pantera that has been in storage for over 30 years. The body and mechanical's are perfect in every way. The car is museum quality and can be seen on my website. Follow this link and click on detomaso cars for sale. Scroll down to the red pantera. ? ?https://levitt1946.wixsite.com/nypantera The price was just reduced from $100,000 to $88,800 for quick sale. Contact me for further information about this car that is perfect in every way. Best , Bob Levitt? -------------- next part -------------- Hello Friends , I am helping a friend sell this completely restored pantera that has been in storage for over 30 years. The body and mechanical's are perfect in every way. The car is museum quality and can be seen on my website. Follow this link and click on detomaso cars for sale. Scroll down to the red pantera. https://levitt1946.wixsite.com/nypantera The price was just reduced from $100,000 to $88,800 for quick sale. Contact me for further information about this car that is perfect in every way. Best , Bob Levitt From garth_rodericks at yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 16:32:08 2019 From: garth_rodericks at yahoo.com (Garth Rodericks) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 21:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes -------------- next part -------------- Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... [1]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAu c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes References 1. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sat Feb 23 17:01:45 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 14:01:45 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today In-Reply-To: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think I recognize that car. Didn?t it belong to a retired AA pilot in Dallas? Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso wrote: > > Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > > [1]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter > a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAu > c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > References > > 1. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From cengles at cox.net Sat Feb 23 17:54:01 2019 From: cengles at cox.net (Charles Engles) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 16:54:01 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today In-Reply-To: References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> Dear Garth and Mike, Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera from our usual suspects in Oklahoma. Could be from the retired AA pilot from DFW. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today I think I recognize that car. Didn?t it belong to a retired AA pilot in Dallas? Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso wrote: > > Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > > [1]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter > a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAu > c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > References > > 1. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sat Feb 23 20:07:37 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 17:07:37 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Bill Taylor Gearhead Database update Message-ID: <98BD4716-2CA4-4A57-98A1-76EF00B93CE5@aol.com> All, Bill has asked me to take over the maintenance and upkeep of his legendary Gearhead Database. For those who are unaware, this is an incredible resource, in the form of an Excel database filled with thousands and thousands of useful facts and links, all very well-organized. You need to replace the bearing in your A/C idler pulley? Just go to the ?bearings? section, and the necessary part number is right there. And so forth. For years, Mike Dailey has hosted the file in the technical information section of the Panteraplace.com website, and it will continue to be hosted there. Every few months, I will send him an updated version with added data points. If you find a tidbit of info and want it added, please send it to me. Bill wrote to me: ?One problem with the database is inoperative URLs. If you ask the forum, you will find a member who is into software and can write the necessary program/scrip/whatever to check every URL in the database to see if it is still active and produce a list of the inactive ones. I cannot remember the name of the fellow who did that years ago, but he might still be around. In any case, there will no doubt be someone who knows how and will be willing to do that task. URLs becoming inactive or changed is an ongoing problem with this sort of database.? If somebody has the necessary skeels to deal with this challenge, please let me know. Thanks to Bill for his tireless dedication to this cause. No matter who manages it going forward, it is and always shall be the Bill Taylor Gearhead Database! Mike Sent from my iPad From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sat Feb 23 20:41:41 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 17:41:41 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel level sender removal In-Reply-To: References: <1508286686.2056457.1549934988581@mail.yahoo.com> <88A0925A-0DB9-470B-ACCE-CCEEFC116864@aol.com> <52960789-04DD-4D75-A6EC-C5EB70A29F15@aol.com> Message-ID: <6EA932B6-00D7-4E75-BA85-2093C6A011DC@aol.com> All, I forgot to issue an update. I forgot that I had bought a late-model fuel sender from Paul Rimov back in 2010. Naturally I remembered only after I had ordered a new one from Larry Stock. Doh. It was shockingly easy to pull the old sender out. Moving the fuel line proved problematic as it needed to grow about 4 inches longer. As I?m using Earl?s Permaflex Plus Teflon/braided stainless hoses, that?s a non-trivial thing. I bought more hose and fabricated a new one, transferred the fittings over, and capped the old fuel line banjo fitting with a vacuum plug. The wiring was straight forward and the fuel line hookup was similarly simple. The car now works as advertised. I had a fuel leak from the 25-year-old fuel feed, and the replacement I got was the wrong size. So I had to order another one from Earl?s and am awaiting its arrival. The fuel sender and too-big fuel feed are on their way back to Larry Stock and it should be very straightforward to change the fuel feed when the new one arrives. Look at me! Ready for Reno four months early!? Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:29, Julian Kift wrote: > > Of course you could just go to Pantera Place and look at those wiring > diagrams Bill spent so much time developing! > > Yellow low fuel warning light and white/black fuel gauge. > Julian > On Feb 11, 2019, at 19:22, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Mike, > Once you get the unit out it should be pretty evident which wire feeds > what and wether that is oriented the same on the new sender. In theory > it shouldn't matter as the wires are just connected to either side of a > variable resistor one side to the wound resistor coil the other the > resistor wipe arm (float). > Julian > On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:40, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Hmm, > Server seems to have stripped my photo away.... > > Mike > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 18:34, Mike Drew via DeTomaso > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Curt. >> >> Turns out I had a photo of my sender, and my recollection was >> completely wrong. Mine is two-wire with a ground tab. >> >> image1.jpeg >> >> I have to just hope that the new sender respects the old sender > wiring >> orientation. >> >> Still waiting to hear from somebody who has successfully pulled the >> sender without removing the window? It may not be possible. >> >> Mike >> Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 17:29, Curt Hall <[1][4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> > wrote: >> >> Mike... >> Here is a photo of my 73. I had problems last year with gauge > reading >> on E? Pull the sender and found the Float was full of fuel, > replaced >> the float and all is good. 50/50 chance of wires bring wrong, I > have my >> windows out so I was able to hook up and test things before > installing. >> Good Luck Curt >> <20190211_172047.jpg> >> [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> <[3][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> All, >> It seems to me it's possible to remove the fuel level sender > without >> removing the side window glass. In fact I'm fairly certain I've > done >> it, years ago, but can't remember for certain. Can anybody confirm >> please? >> Also does anybody know which wire goes where on a two-wire sending >> unit? My old one has three wires but new one has no provision for >> ground, so I will have to fabricate one. I have a 50/50 chance of >> getting the other wires correct but would like to improve my odds. > I >> have no reason to believe the new sender will respect the wiring >> orientation of the old one? >> Mike >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> [4][6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> [5][7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) >> use the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From jjdetrich at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 11:08:43 2019 From: jjdetrich at gmail.com (Jeff Detrich) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:08:43 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today In-Reply-To: <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> Message-ID: I don't recognize it either. Jeff in Dallas 6559 On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 4:54 PM Charles Engles wrote: > Dear Garth and Mike, > > Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera from our > usual suspects in Oklahoma. Could be from the retired AA pilot from DFW. > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM > To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today > > I think I recognize that car. Didn?t it belong to a retired AA pilot in > Dallas? > > Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso < > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > > > Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > > > > [1] > https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter > > a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAu > > c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > > > References > > > > 1. > https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I don't recognize it either. Jeff in Dallas 6559 On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 4:54 PM Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote: Dear Garth and Mike, A A A A A Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera from our usual suspects in Oklahoma.A A Could be from the retired AA pilot from DFW. A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today I think I recognize that car. Didnat it belong to a retired AA pilot in Dallas? Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >A A Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > >A A [1][4]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomas o-Panter >A A a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2 CisAu >A A c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > References > >A A 1. 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References 1. mailto:cengles at cox.net 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter 5. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 10. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From knottsj at galstar.com Sun Feb 24 11:24:19 2019 From: knottsj at galstar.com (Jerry Knotts) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:24:19 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today In-Reply-To: References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> Message-ID: <6e380a57-c68d-e126-887d-5b1ee3542500@galstar.com> Would be interested to see if it garnered a bid that didn't meet the reserve or if it was a no bid. There is a fellow here that has a Meineke Muffler franchise about 11th and Garnet that has a black car similar to the one at auction but he is running some Goofy (tall) sized rear tires. His car came from Houston about 10+ years ago. I have my car with a broker locally and he has said that Barrett Jackson in Phoenix or Florida is the way to go. Jerry Knotts On 2/24/2019 10:08 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote: > I don't recognize it either. > Jeff in Dallas > 6559 > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 4:54 PM Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net> > wrote: > > Dear Garth and Mike, > A A A A A Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera > from our usual suspects in Oklahoma.A A Could be from the retired > AA pilot from DFW. > A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] > On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM > To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today > I think I recognize that car. Didnat it belong to a retired AA pilot > in Dallas? > Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. > Mike > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso > <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > > >A A Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > > > >A > A [1][4]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomas > o-Panter > >A > A a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2 > CisAu > >A > A c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > > > References > > > >A A 1. > [5]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pan > tera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0% > 2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=y > es > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > the list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- Would be interested to see if it garnered a bid that didn't meet the reserve or if it was a no bid. There is a fellow here that has a Meineke Muffler franchise about 11th and Garnet that has a black car similar to the one at auction but he is running some Goofy (tall) sized rear tires. His car came from Houston about 10+ years ago. I have my car with a broker locally and he has said that Barrett Jackson in Phoenix or Florida is the way to go. Jerry Knotts On 2/24/2019 10:08 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote: I don't recognize it either. Jeff in Dallas 6559 On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 4:54 PM Charles Engles [1]<[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote: Dear Garth and Mike, A A A A A Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera from our usual suspects in Oklahoma.A A Could be from the retired AA pilot from DFW. A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[[2]2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today I think I recognize that car. Didnat it belong to a retired AA pilot in Dallas? Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso [3]<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > >A A Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > >A A [1][4][4]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomas o-Panter >A A a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2 CisAu >A A c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > References > >A A 1. 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PHP? etc. I can probably help if necessary Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/23/19, 5:08 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" wrote: All, Bill has asked me to take over the maintenance and upkeep of his legendary Gearhead Database. For those who are unaware, this is an incredible resource, in the form of an Excel database filled with thousands and thousands of useful facts and links, all very well-organized. You need to replace the bearing in your A/C idler pulley? Just go to the ?bearings? section, and the necessary part number is right there. And so forth. For years, Mike Dailey has hosted the file in the technical information section of the Panteraplace.com website, and it will continue to be hosted there. Every few months, I will send him an updated version with added data points. If you find a tidbit of info and want it added, please send it to me. Bill wrote to me: ?One problem with the database is inoperative URLs. If you ask the forum, you will find a member who is into software and can write the necessary program/scrip/whatever to check every URL in the database to see if it is still active and produce a list of the inactive ones. I cannot remember the name of the fellow who did that years ago, but he might still be around. In any case, there will no doubt be someone who knows how and will be willing to do that task. URLs becoming inactive or changed is an ongoing problem with this sort of database.? If somebody has the necessary skeels to deal with this challenge, please let me know. Thanks to Bill for his tireless dedication to this cause. No matter who manages it going forward, it is and always shall be the Bill Taylor Gearhead Database! Mike Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From grayjim at cox.net Sun Feb 24 13:33:06 2019 From: grayjim at cox.net (Jimmie Gray) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:33:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today In-Reply-To: <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1695692864.742612.1551033186513@myemail.cox.net> Could it be Ken Bachelor's? > On February 23, 2019 at 5:54 PM Charles Engles wrote: > > > Dear Garth and Mike, > > Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera from our usual suspects in Oklahoma. Could be from the retired AA pilot from DFW. > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM > To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today > > I think I recognize that car. Didn?t it belong to a retired AA pilot in Dallas? > > Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso wrote: > > > > Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... > > > > [1]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter > > a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAu > > c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > > > References > > > > 1. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From MikeLDrew at aol.com Sun Feb 24 13:51:20 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:51:20 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today In-Reply-To: <1695692864.742612.1551033186513@myemail.cox.net> References: <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1081503712.4010747.1550957528667@mail.yahoo.com> <001d01d4cbca$abd23760$0376a620$@cox.net> <1695692864.742612.1551033186513@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: I don?t think so. The guy I am thinking of was shorter in stature, with gray hair, and flew for AA. Ken is tall and eagle-eyed and flies for Delta, and is considerably younger. The fellow I?m thinking of would be well into or past his 80s now I think. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 24, 2019, at 10:33, Jimmie Gray wrote: > > Could it be Ken Bachelor's? >> On February 23, 2019 at 5:54 PM Charles Engles wrote: >> >> >> Dear Garth and Mike, >> >> Ray Santilli and I do not recognize the black Pantera from our usual suspects in Oklahoma. Could be from the retired AA pilot from DFW. >> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:02 PM >> To: Garth Rodericks; De Tomaso Forum >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 74 Pantera at Leake Auction today >> >> I think I recognize that car. Didn?t it belong to a retired AA pilot in Dallas? >> >> Color, wing and funky wheels all match my recollection. >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 13:32, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso wrote: >>> >>> Looks like a 74 is to be auctioned at Leake today... >>> >>> [1]https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Panter >>> a-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAu >>> c%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. https://www.ironplanet.com/for-sale/Automobiles-1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-Coupe-Oklahoma/2034286?h=5002%2Cmsg%7C36339X%7C36338X%2Csm%7C0%2CisAuc%7Cyes%2Cmf%7C1&rr=0.25&hitprm=msg%3D36339X%7C36338X&pnLink=yes >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Sun Feb 24 13:56:02 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 18:56:02 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Bill Taylor Gearhead Database update In-Reply-To: <98BD4716-2CA4-4A57-98A1-76EF00B93CE5@aol.com> References: <98BD4716-2CA4-4A57-98A1-76EF00B93CE5@aol.com> Message-ID: Actually, it's not too bad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxxrj585mfam564/Screenshot%202019-02-24%2010.55.19.png?dl=0 Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/23/19, 5:08 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" wrote: All, Bill has asked me to take over the maintenance and upkeep of his legendary Gearhead Database. For those who are unaware, this is an incredible resource, in the form of an Excel database filled with thousands and thousands of useful facts and links, all very well-organized. You need to replace the bearing in your A/C idler pulley? Just go to the ?bearings? section, and the necessary part number is right there. And so forth. For years, Mike Dailey has hosted the file in the technical information section of the Panteraplace.com website, and it will continue to be hosted there. Every few months, I will send him an updated version with added data points. If you find a tidbit of info and want it added, please send it to me. Bill wrote to me: ?One problem with the database is inoperative URLs. If you ask the forum, you will find a member who is into software and can write the necessary program/scrip/whatever to check every URL in the database to see if it is still active and produce a list of the inactive ones. I cannot remember the name of the fellow who did that years ago, but he might still be around. In any case, there will no doubt be someone who knows how and will be willing to do that task. URLs becoming inactive or changed is an ongoing problem with this sort of database.? If somebody has the necessary skeels to deal with this challenge, please let me know. Thanks to Bill for his tireless dedication to this cause. No matter who manages it going forward, it is and always shall be the Bill Taylor Gearhead Database! Mike Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From doug351c at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 14:52:03 2019 From: doug351c at gmail.com (Doug) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 11:52:03 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] New Caretaker(s) for SOBill's AutoCAD Wiring diagrams Message-ID: <000e01d4cc7a$6a49e0d0$3edda270$@gmail.com> All, Recently SOBill made a request for someone else to become the caretaker of his wonderful collection of Pantera wiring diagrams. I answered his request and Bill has passed the AutoCad source files of the diagrams on to me. My function will mainly be as a diagram editor. If you run across a diagram error, a missing diagram, or have a suggestion for a diagram improvement, please let me know. Please note that I will not be assuming any responsibilities for the on-line posting of these diagrams. For any changes that I make, I'll gladly forward the pdf version(s) to the various online databases, i.e. Mike Daily's website and the POCA website (if there are others sites that should be included, please let me know). It is SOBill's desire though, for the main on-line repository for the PDF versions to be Mike Daily's www.panteraplace.com . Julian Kift also answered SOBill's request so I have forwarded the editable AutoCad source files of the diagrams to him. I shouldn't speak for him but he may also be willing to field requests for diagram improvements. I fully agree with Mike Drew's recent posting in which he stated "Thanks to Bill for his tireless dedication to this cause. No matter who manages it going forward, it is and always shall be the Bill Taylor Gearhead Database!" Doug Braun Blue 73L #5505 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- All, Recently SOBill made a request for someone else to become the caretaker of his wonderful collection of Pantera wiring diagrams. I answered his request and Bill has passed the AutoCad source files of the diagrams on to me. My function will mainly be as a diagram editor. If you run across a diagram error, a missing diagram, or have a suggestion for a diagram improvement, please let me know. Please note that I will not be assuming any responsibilities for the on-line posting of these diagrams. For any changes that I make, I'll gladly forward the pdf version(s) to the various online databases, i.e. Mike Daily's website and the POCA website (if there are others sites that should be included, please let me know). It is SOBill's desire though, for the main on-line repository for the PDF versions to be Mike Daily's [1]www.panteraplace.com. Julian Kift also answered SOBill's request so I have forwarded the editable AutoCad source files of the diagrams to him. I shouldn't speak for him but he may also be willing to field requests for diagram improvements. I fully agree with Mike Drew's recent posting in which he stated "Thanks to Bill for his tireless dedication to this cause. No matter who manages it going forward, it is and always shall be the Bill Taylor Gearhead Database!" Doug Braun Blue 73L #5505 Virus-free. [2]www.avg.com References Visible links 1. http://www.panteraplace.com/ 2. http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient Hidden links: 4. http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient 5. file://localhost/tmp/tmplAXIXZ.html#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2 From mbefthomas at comcast.net Sun Feb 24 18:18:06 2019 From: mbefthomas at comcast.net (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:18:06 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Message-ID: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas -------------- next part -------------- Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk From mbefthomas at comcast.net Sun Feb 24 18:18:06 2019 From: mbefthomas at comcast.net (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:18:06 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Message-ID: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas -------------- next part -------------- Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk From mbefthomas at comcast.net Sun Feb 24 18:33:46 2019 From: mbefthomas at comcast.net (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:33:46 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review Message-ID: <011901d4cc99$63c403c0$2b4c0b40$@comcast.net> OK, watched the video. Looks like an early pushbutton with the euro front side markers. The surprise is at the end when they what I presume they think is the finished car - and it's a much later L model in yellow instead of the bright green they were doing the restoration on. Anybody know what the VIN on the PB might be or are familiar with that car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow '74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:18 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; 'Detomaso Email List' Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas From mbefthomas at comcast.net Sun Feb 24 18:33:46 2019 From: mbefthomas at comcast.net (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:33:46 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review Message-ID: <011901d4cc99$63c403c0$2b4c0b40$@comcast.net> OK, watched the video. Looks like an early pushbutton with the euro front side markers. The surprise is at the end when they what I presume they think is the finished car - and it's a much later L model in yellow instead of the bright green they were doing the restoration on. Anybody know what the VIN on the PB might be or are familiar with that car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow '74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:18 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; 'Detomaso Email List' Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas From guson at home.se Mon Feb 25 08:15:13 2019 From: guson at home.se (Tomas Gunnarsson) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 05:15:13 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review Message-ID: <1A848D64C8D04955873DFA021CCC824E@mail2world.com> The car is located in Sweden. The video was made by someone other than the owner "borowing" pics from his restoration thread on a forum, noone knows why a different car is shown at the end. The car is still in assembly and not finished. I met the owner last Summer and we have been in touch briefly over Facebook. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [mbefthomas at comcast.net] Sent: 25/2/2019 12:30:46 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;detomaso at detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review OK, watched the video. Looks like an early pushbutton with the euro front side markers. The surprise is at the end when they what I presume they think is the finished car - and it's a much later L model in yellow instead of the bright green they were doing the restoration on. Anybody know what the VIN on the PB might be or are familiar with that car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow '74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:18 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; 'Detomaso Email List' Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. . -------------- next part -------------- The car is located in Sweden. The video was made by someone other than the owner "borowing" pics from his restoration thread on a forum, noone knows why a different car is shown at the end. The car is still in assembly and not finished. I met the owner last Summer and we have been in touch briefly over Facebook. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [mbefthomas at comcast.net] Sent: 25/2/2019 12:30:46 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;detomaso at detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review OK, watched the video. Looks like an early pushbutton with the euro front side markers. The surprise is at the end when they what I presume they think is the finished car - and it's a much later L model in yellow instead of the bright green they were doing the restoration on. Anybody know what the VIN on the PB might be or are familiar with that car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow '74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:18 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; 'Detomaso Email List' Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. . From guson at home.se Mon Feb 25 08:15:13 2019 From: guson at home.se (Tomas Gunnarsson) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 05:15:13 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review Message-ID: <1A848D64C8D04955873DFA021CCC824E@mail2world.com> The car is located in Sweden. The video was made by someone other than the owner "borowing" pics from his restoration thread on a forum, noone knows why a different car is shown at the end. The car is still in assembly and not finished. I met the owner last Summer and we have been in touch briefly over Facebook. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [mbefthomas at comcast.net] Sent: 25/2/2019 12:30:46 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;detomaso at detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review OK, watched the video. Looks like an early pushbutton with the euro front side markers. The surprise is at the end when they what I presume they think is the finished car - and it's a much later L model in yellow instead of the bright green they were doing the restoration on. Anybody know what the VIN on the PB might be or are familiar with that car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow '74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:18 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; 'Detomaso Email List' Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. . -------------- next part -------------- The car is located in Sweden. The video was made by someone other than the owner "borowing" pics from his restoration thread on a forum, noone knows why a different car is shown at the end. The car is still in assembly and not finished. I met the owner last Summer and we have been in touch briefly over Facebook. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [mbefthomas at comcast.net] Sent: 25/2/2019 12:30:46 AM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;detomaso at detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera - review OK, watched the video. Looks like an early pushbutton with the euro front side markers. The surprise is at the end when they what I presume they think is the finished car - and it's a much later L model in yellow instead of the bright green they were doing the restoration on. Anybody know what the VIN on the PB might be or are familiar with that car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest 206-795-3302 Yellow '74 #6328 www.panterasnorthwest.com -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:18 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; 'Detomaso Email List' Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Currently on YouTube Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom Project Handmade Overhaulin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk Mike Thomas _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. . From montana at montanas.com Mon Feb 25 12:49:33 2019 From: montana at montanas.com (montana at montanas.com) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:49:33 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tack Replacement / Repair Message-ID: <000001d4cd32$7793a290$66bae7b0$@montanas.com> I have been dealing with fuel tank leaks for the past year. Any advice on further repair, new replacement, available replacement sources. Thanks Ken Montana, 1987 AmeriSport GT5S (original). 228-832-1313 montana at montanas.com -------------- next part -------------- I have been dealing with fuel tank leaks for the past year. Any advice on further repair, new replacement, available replacement sources. Thanks Ken Montana, 1987 AmeriSport GT5S (original). 228-832-1313 [1]montana at montanas.com References 1. mailto:montana at montanas.com From MikeLDrew at aol.com Mon Feb 25 13:00:15 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 10:00:15 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tack Replacement / Repair In-Reply-To: <000001d4cd32$7793a290$66bae7b0$@montanas.com> References: <000001d4cd32$7793a290$66bae7b0$@montanas.com> Message-ID: Ken, I?m glad you mentioned that your car is a GT5-S. The fuel tanks in those cars have shown a propensity for developing leaks in recent years. I know Colin Bradshaw on this forum was so-afflicted just last year. I think Colin was able to have his tank welded up inside the car. But most likely you will need to pull the engine and gearbox (which is not very difficult, just time-consuming) in order to pull your tank out. Then you will have to decide if it?s worth fixing or if you want to replace it. Both original tanks and aftermarket stainless steel tanks are available. None of this is going to be cheap or easy to fix. But you can?t continue to drive a car whose gas tank is located inches from a flaming hot exhaust, when fuel is spewing out of it. Hopefully Colin can chime in with more details about his tank?s failure and repair.... Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2019, at 09:49, wrote: > > I have been dealing with fuel tank leaks for the past year. Any advice > on further repair, new replacement, available replacement sources. > > Thanks Ken Montana, 1987 AmeriSport GT5S (original). 228-832-1313 > [1]montana at montanas.com > > References > > 1. mailto:montana at montanas.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From jderyke at aol.com Mon Feb 25 14:33:58 2019 From: jderyke at aol.com (jderyke at aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Replacement / Repair References: <588319020.4848296.1551123238267.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <588319020.4848296.1551123238267@mail.yahoo.com> Assuming the tank is still structurally strong and what you have are only pinholes, BONDO works fine to seal up small holes and is permanently fuel-proof- event to the witch's brew California sell as 'gas' these days. Mine has been sealed this way since the '80s. But the tank needs to be dry in the repair area first, so drain it below the leak area(s), clean it off with alcohol & wipe dry, then mud the hole(s) up. If your leak is in the filler neck area and you have an L model, use fuel=proof hose to hook up the outside filler. Plain radiator hose will leak again within weeks. There's a gasket between the filler spout & tank, and another one below the air vent dome which is riveted on. If its leaking there, drill out the rivets- the tank holes are threaded- and use metric screws to hold the tank vent on with a fresh gasket. Once the rivet heads are off & the dome is lifted off, use tape inserted thru the dome hole to catch the ends of the rivets before punching the ends out. Incidentally, the dome is removed the same way to use Hall's cheap anti-rollover vent for safety. All this is extremely easy if the rear quarter window is out for tank top access. God luck- -----Original Message----- From: montana To: detomaso CC: Montana - FILE COPY Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 9:49 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tack Replacement / Repair ? I have been dealing with fuel tank leaks for the past year. Any advice ? on further repair, new replacement, available replacement sources. ? Thanks Ken Montana, 1987 AmeriSport GT5S (original). 228-832-1313 ? [1]montana at montanas.com References ? 1. mailto:montana at montanas.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Assuming the tank is still structurally strong and what you have are only pinholes, BONDO works fine to seal up small holes and is permanently fuel-proof- event to the witch's brew California sell as 'gas' these days. Mine has been sealed this way since the '80s. But the tank needs to be dry in the repair area first, so drain it below the leak area(s), clean it off with alcohol & wipe dry, then mud the hole(s) up. If your leak is in the filler neck area and you have an L model, use fuel=proof hose to hook up the outside filler. Plain radiator hose will leak again within weeks. There's a gasket between the filler spout & tank, and another one below the air vent dome which is riveted on. If its leaking there, drill out the rivets- the tank holes are threaded- and use metric screws to hold the tank vent on with a fresh gasket. Once the rivet heads are off & the dome is lifted off, use tape inserted thru the dome hole to catch the ends of the rivets before punching the ends out. Incidentally, the dome is removed the same way to use Hall's cheap anti-rollover vent for safety. All this is extremely easy if the rear quarter window is out for tank top access. God luck- -----Original Message----- From: montana To: detomaso CC: Montana - FILE COPY Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 9:49 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tack Replacement / Repair I have been dealing with fuel tank leaks for the past year. Any advice on further repair, new replacement, available replacement sources. Thanks Ken Montana, 1987 AmeriSport GT5S (original). 228-832-1313 [1][1]montana at montanas.com References 1. mailto:[2]montana at montanas.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:montana at montanas.com 2. mailto:montana at montanas.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From thomas at hax.se Mon Feb 25 15:02:32 2019 From: thomas at hax.se (=?utf-8?Q?Thomas_T=C3=B6rnblom?=) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:02:32 +0100 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Replacement / Repair In-Reply-To: <588319020.4848296.1551123238267@mail.yahoo.com> References: <588319020.4848296.1551123238267.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <588319020.4848296.1551123238267@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The GT5S likely has an aluminum tank, just like my GT5, and the filler spout is welded to the top of the tank. /Thomas > 25 feb. 2019 kl. 20:33 skrev Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso : > > Assuming the tank is still structurally strong and what you have are > only pinholes, BONDO works fine to seal up small holes and is > permanently fuel-proof- event to the witch's brew California sell as > 'gas' these days. Mine has been sealed this way since the '80s. But the > tank needs to be dry in the repair area first, so drain it below the > leak area(s), clean it off with alcohol & wipe dry, then mud the > hole(s) up. > If your leak is in the filler neck area and you have an L model, use > fuel=proof hose to hook up the outside filler. Plain radiator hose will > leak again within weeks. There's a gasket between the filler spout & > tank, and another one below the air vent dome which is riveted on. If > its leaking there, drill out the rivets- the tank holes are threaded- > and use metric screws to hold the tank vent on with a fresh gasket. > Once the rivet heads are off & the dome is lifted off, use tape > inserted thru the dome hole to catch the ends of the rivets before > punching the ends out. Incidentally, the dome is removed the same way > to use Hall's cheap anti-rollover vent for safety. All this is > extremely easy if the rear quarter window is out for tank top access. > God luck- > > -----Original Message----- > From: montana > To: detomaso > CC: Montana - FILE COPY > Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 9:49 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tack Replacement / Repair > I have been dealing with fuel tank leaks for the past year. Any > advice > on further repair, new replacement, available replacement sources. > Thanks Ken Montana, 1987 AmeriSport GT5S (original). 228-832-1313 > [1][1]montana at montanas.com > References > 1. mailto:[2]montana at montanas.com > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [3]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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From rob at dumoulins.net Mon Feb 25 15:12:24 2019 From: rob at dumoulins.net (Rob Dumoulin) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:12:24 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera In-Reply-To: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> References: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch. Rob DuMoulin 904.476.8744 rob at dumoulins.net www.kbsi.co http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas < mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > Currently on YouTube > > Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom > Project Handmade Overhaulin > > > [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > > Mike Thomas > > References > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A Rob DuMoulin 904.476.8744 [1]rob at dumoulins.net [2]www.kbsi.co [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: A A Currently on YouTube A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom A A Project Handmade Overhaulin A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk A A Mike Thomas References A A 1. [6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From rob at dumoulins.net Mon Feb 25 15:12:24 2019 From: rob at dumoulins.net (Rob Dumoulin) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:12:24 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera In-Reply-To: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> References: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch. Rob DuMoulin 904.476.8744 rob at dumoulins.net www.kbsi.co http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas < mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > Currently on YouTube > > Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom > Project Handmade Overhaulin > > > [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > > Mike Thomas > > References > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A Rob DuMoulin 904.476.8744 [1]rob at dumoulins.net [2]www.kbsi.co [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: A A Currently on YouTube A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow Custom A A Project Handmade Overhaulin A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk A A Mike Thomas References A A 1. [6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From fresnofinches at aol.com Mon Feb 25 16:03:03 2019 From: fresnofinches at aol.com (Larry Finch) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:03:03 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? Message-ID: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> All, Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. 100 pounds ? 59?x21?x21? From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. Thanks, Larry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 727271 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. From julian_kift at hotmail.com Mon Feb 25 21:57:45 2019 From: julian_kift at hotmail.com (Julian Kift) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 02:57:45 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? In-Reply-To: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> References: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> Message-ID: Larry, I find YRC Freight to be cheapest, reliable and locally here in Reno super friendly. I use them to ship my FA engine for rebuild and recently a motorcycle engine I purchased from Tucson. Rate looks to be $107 for your crate dims and weight, drop off at local terminal in Fresno delivered to Perrysburg commercial address. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:03 PM To: Email List Address For Posting Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? All, Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. 100 pounds ? 59?x21?x21? >From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. Thanks, Larry [cid:50f53b66-6537-47f4-a757-0fcc7cb31875 at namprd08.prod.outlook.com] Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Larry, I find YRC Freight to be cheapest, reliable and locally here in Reno super friendly. I use them to ship my FA engine for rebuild and recently a motorcycle engine I purchased from Tucson. Rate looks to be $107 for your crate dims and weight, drop off at local terminal in Fresno delivered to Perrysburg commercial address. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:03 PM To: Email List Address For Posting Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? All, Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. 100 pounds -- 59"x21"x21" From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. 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Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 3:30 PM To: De Tomaso Forum Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity Guys, You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of used Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of you stepped up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are both intended for standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous notable differences. Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock Pantera manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd considering the cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 06-17-2014 (6) (Small).jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38138 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > Rob DuMoulin > 904.476.8744 > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > [2]www.kbsi.co > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > A A Currently on YouTube > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > Custom > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > A A Mike Thomas > References > A A 1. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net > 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From pantera01826 at rogers.com Mon Feb 25 21:58:42 2019 From: pantera01826 at rogers.com (MARK CHARLTON) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:58:42 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera In-Reply-To: References: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I think it?s unfortunate that the ?finished? car at the end of that video is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most of it. Mark Charlton pantera01826 at rogers.com > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > Rob DuMoulin > 904.476.8744 > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > [2]www.kbsi.co > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > A A Currently on YouTube > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > Custom > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > A A Mike Thomas > References > A A 1. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net > 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From pantera01826 at rogers.com Mon Feb 25 22:00:20 2019 From: pantera01826 at rogers.com (MARK CHARLTON) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 22:00:20 -0500 Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? In-Reply-To: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> References: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> Message-ID: Larry, Have you tried YRC (Yellow Reimer) Freight? They are usually pretty reasonable with large/heavy stuff in my experience. Mark Charlton pantera01826 at rogers.com > On Feb 25, 2019, at 4:03 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso wrote: > > All, > > Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. > > 100 pounds ? 59?x21?x21? > > From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio > > Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. > > Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 > > I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. > > Thanks, > > Larry > > > > Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From rimovp at icloud.com Tue Feb 26 00:05:01 2019 From: rimovp at icloud.com (Paul Rimov) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:05:01 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity In-Reply-To: <033f01d4cd7f$0cb20140$261603c0$@cox.net> References: <8BAF1FE4-CC2F-44A2-88C6-2E22FAEFB200@aol.com> <033f01d4cd7f$0cb20140$261603c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <2B975C13-34BC-4C82-92D1-1334E195B43A@icloud.com> Personally I am amazed Mike has not seen this before, that or too many ups and downs flying scrambled that file. Grin. Cheers > On Feb 25, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Chuck and Linda Huber wrote: > > You should feel inside that collector to see if you have the same design > that I did in my Hall Headers... > > We cut the collectors out as we went to a 3" (or 2.5", can't recall exactly) > adapter for wider tailpipes... > > Chuck > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 3:30 PM > To: De Tomaso Forum > Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Hall Pantera header oddity > > Guys, > > You may recall that a few weeks ago I put out a call for two pairs of used > Hall Pantera headers on behalf of a pair of local owners. Two of you stepped > up first and both sets have been delivered to me. They are both intended for > standard 351C engines, and yet they have numerous notable differences. > > Last week I showed the header inlet ports in comparison to stock Pantera > manifold ports. Both are perfectly round which is odd considering the > cylinder head exhaust ports are rectangular: > > <06-17-2014 (6) (Small).jpg> > <06-16-2014 (4) (Medium).jpg> > <06-17-2014 (4) (Medium).JPG> > <06-16-2014 (6) (Medium).jpg> > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From lplugw at hotmail.com Tue Feb 26 07:32:14 2019 From: lplugw at hotmail.com (Larry Weston) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:32:14 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? In-Reply-To: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> References: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> Message-ID: I will ring in on YRC too. Used them several times to send ZFs to Ron McCalls shop in Maryland. Drop off at YRC depot in Manchester, NH and do paperwork. Theres a receiving dock at Rons address. I have a special wooden crate I built. It?s made a couple trips (different zFs) Other Larry. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2019, at 4:03 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso wrote: > > All, > > Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. > > 100 pounds ? 59?x21?x21? > > From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio > > Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. > > Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 > > I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. 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Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most > of it. > > Mark Charlton > pantera01826 at rogers.com > > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > > Rob DuMoulin > > 904.476.8744 > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > > [2]www.kbsi.co > > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > A A Currently on YouTube > > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > > Custom > > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > A A Mike Thomas > > References > > A A 1. [6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > > etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > > the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net > > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ > > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net > > 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I feel the same way. I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON <[1]pantera01826 at rogers.com> wrote: I think itas unfortunate that the afinisheda car at the end of that video is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most of it. Mark Charlton [2]pantera01826 at rogers.com > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[3]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote: > >A A Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A >A A Rob DuMoulin >A A 904.476.8744 >A A [1][4]rob at dumoulins.net >A A [2][5]www.kbsi.co >A A [3][6]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > >A A On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas >A A <[4][7]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > >A A A AA A Currently on YouTube >A A A AA A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow >A A A Custom >A A A AA A Project Handmade Overhaulin >A A A AA A [1][5][8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A A AA A Mike Thomas >A A A References >A A A AA A 1. [6][9]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A A _______________________________________________ >A A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >A A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >A A A DeTomaso mailing list >A A A [7][10]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >A A A [8][11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >A A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >A A A etc.) use the links above. >A A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >A A A any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of >A A A the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an >A A A archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > >A A 1. mailto:[12]rob at dumoulins.net >A A 2. [13]http://www.kbsi.co/ >A A 3. [14]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 >A A 4. mailto:[15]mbefthomas at comcast.net >A A 5. [16]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A 6. [17]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A 7. mailto:[18]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >A A 8. [19]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [20]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [21]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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References 1. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com 2. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com 3. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 4. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 5. http://www.kbsi.co/ 6. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 7. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 10. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 12. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 13. http://www.kbsi.co/ 14. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 15. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net 16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 22. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 23. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From qrtlow at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 07:35:35 2019 From: qrtlow at gmail.com (Joe Stockett) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:35:35 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera In-Reply-To: References: <00f601d4cc97$348f1fb0$9dad5f10$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I feel the same way. I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON wrote: > I think it?s unfortunate that the ?finished? car at the end of that video > is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most > of it. > > Mark Charlton > pantera01826 at rogers.com > > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > > Rob DuMoulin > > 904.476.8744 > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > > [2]www.kbsi.co > > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > A A Currently on YouTube > > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > > Custom > > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > A A Mike Thomas > > References > > A A 1. 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I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON <[1]pantera01826 at rogers.com> wrote: I think itas unfortunate that the afinisheda car at the end of that video is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most of it. Mark Charlton [2]pantera01826 at rogers.com > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[3]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote: > >A A Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A >A A Rob DuMoulin >A A 904.476.8744 >A A [1][4]rob at dumoulins.net >A A [2][5]www.kbsi.co >A A [3][6]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > >A A On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas >A A <[4][7]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > >A A A AA A Currently on YouTube >A A A AA A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow >A A A Custom >A A A AA A Project Handmade Overhaulin >A A A AA A [1][5][8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A A AA A Mike Thomas >A A A References >A A A AA A 1. 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[16]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A 6. [17]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk >A A 7. mailto:[18]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >A A 8. [19]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [20]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > [21]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [22]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [23]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com 2. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com 3. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 4. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 5. http://www.kbsi.co/ 6. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 7. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 10. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 12. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net 13. http://www.kbsi.co/ 14. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 15. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net 16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk 18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 22. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 23. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From lplugw at hotmail.com Tue Feb 26 07:39:16 2019 From: lplugw at hotmail.com (Larry Weston) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:39:16 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? In-Reply-To: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> References: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> Message-ID: ps: I also screwed two pieces of 4x4 (at least 30? apart) to the base to hold the crate high enough off the floor so the trucker can easily get a pallet jack underneath to move it around. Appreciated at all stages of the trip. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2019, at 4:03 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso wrote: > > All, > > Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. > > 100 pounds ? 59?x21?x21? > > From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio > > Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. > > Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 > > I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. > > Thanks, > > Larry > > [cid:706ef0ed-5ea4-4a44-a4be-63d1c304e0d1 at namprd03.prod.outlook.com] > > > Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 727271 bytes Desc: image1.jpeg URL: From montana at montanas.com Tue Feb 26 09:43:04 2019 From: montana at montanas.com (montana at montanas.com) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 08:43:04 -0600 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Repair/Replace Follow-up Thanks Message-ID: <001001d4cde1$94e2e360$bea8aa20$@montanas.com> 2/26/19 Fuel Tank Repair / Replace Thanks to everyone who offered advice on my fuel tank problem in the 87 AmeriSport GT5S. I plan to proceed using all the info provided. First to remove the tank then apply the advice and options. I have no mechanical abilities nor equipment so I'll need to hire a shop. Is there anyone out there near New Orleans or Pensacola who has experience with Panteras and could accomplish the project. I can trailer the car with no problem. I am a member of the Space City club but have never been able to get to Houston. Thanks Much All and Any Additional Advice or Suggestions will be Appreciated, Ken Montana / 228-832-1313 / montana at montanas.com 1987 AmeriSport GT-5S / Black / VIN #: 1A9PN8740HD111017 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:03 PM To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso at server.detomasolist.com From guson at home.se Tue Feb 26 10:35:12 2019 From: guson at home.se (Tomas Gunnarsson) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:35:12 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Message-ID: <122F1B832E7A43189F4ADB58F42EAF0B@mail2world.com> The Youtube video was not uploaded by the restorer, someone took the resto pics from his forum account and created the video without his conscent. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Joe Stockett [qrtlow at gmail.com] Sent: 26/2/2019 1:32:35 PM To: pantera01826 at rogers.com Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;mbefthomas at comcast.net;detomaso at detomas olist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera ?I feel the same way. I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON wrote: > I think it?s unfortunate that the ?finished? car at the end of that video > is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most > of it. > > Mark Charlton > pantera01826 at rogers.com > > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > > Rob DuMoulin > > 904.476.8744 > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > > [2]www.kbsi.co > > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > A A Currently on YouTube > > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > > Custom > > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > A A Mike Thomas > > References > > A A 1. [6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > > etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > > the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net > > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ > > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net > > 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- The Youtube video was not uploaded by the restorer, someone took the resto pics from his forum account and created the video without his conscent. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Joe Stockett [qrtlow at gmail.com] Sent: 26/2/2019 1:32:35 PM To: pantera01826 at rogers.com Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;mbefthomas at comcast.net;detomaso at detoma solist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera ?I feel the same way. I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON wrote: > I think it�s unfortunate that the �finished� car at the end of that video > is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most > of it. > > Mark Charlton > pantera01826 at rogers.com > > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > > Rob DuMoulin > > 904.476.8744 > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > > [2]www.kbsi.co > > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > A A Currently on YouTube > > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > > Custom > > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > A A Mike Thomas > > References > > A A 1. [6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > > etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > > the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net > > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/ > > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > 4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net > > 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. From guson at home.se Tue Feb 26 10:35:12 2019 From: guson at home.se (Tomas Gunnarsson) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:35:12 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera Message-ID: <122F1B832E7A43189F4ADB58F42EAF0B@mail2world.com> The Youtube video was not uploaded by the restorer, someone took the resto pics from his forum account and created the video without his conscent. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Joe Stockett [qrtlow at gmail.com] Sent: 26/2/2019 1:32:35 PM To: pantera01826 at rogers.com Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;mbefthomas at comcast.net;detomaso at detomas olist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera ?I feel the same way. I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON wrote: > I think it?s unfortunate that the ?finished? car at the end of that video > is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most > of it. > > Mark Charlton > pantera01826 at rogers.com > > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > > Rob DuMoulin > > 904.476.8744 > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > > [2]www.kbsi.co > > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > A A Currently on YouTube > > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > > Custom > > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > A A Mike Thomas > > References > > A A 1. 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Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Joe Stockett [qrtlow at gmail.com] Sent: 26/2/2019 1:32:35 PM To: pantera01826 at rogers.com Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;mbefthomas at comcast.net;detomaso at detoma solist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhaulin on YT - 71 Pantera ?I feel the same way. I actually stumbled on the YouTube video a couple weeks ago and was totally impressed with the video editing and then BAM! The push button is replaced with a different car. I was ready to write a comment, but scrolled down to see the submitter explain he used another car to show what his final intention was. My question to him is why not post it until it's finished? Joe On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:58 PM MARK CHARLTON wrote: > I think it�s unfortunate that the �finished� car at the end of that video > is a totally different car. Not the chrome-bumper Pushbutton shown in most > of it. > > Mark Charlton > pantera01826 at rogers.com > > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rob Dumoulin wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike. That was an enjoyable resurrection to watch.A > > Rob DuMoulin > > 904.476.8744 > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net > > [2]www.kbsi.co > > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58 > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mike & Elizabeth Thomas > > <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > A A Currently on YouTube > > A A Restoration of a Legend 1971 De Tomaso Pantera Build Slideshow > > Custom > > A A Project Handmade Overhaulin > > A A [1][5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmY1xcCDfk > > A A Mike Thomas > > References > > A A 1. 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From MikeLDrew at aol.com Tue Feb 26 12:41:50 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 09:41:50 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Repair/Replace Follow-up Thanks In-Reply-To: <001001d4cde1$94e2e360$bea8aa20$@montanas.com> References: <001001d4cde1$94e2e360$bea8aa20$@montanas.com> Message-ID: Ken, Jeff Cobb has no Pantera experience but has a repair shop in Baton Rouge. He has a prototype Mangusta, as well as an Espada, Bora and Ghibli I believe, so he is definitely simpatico. I?m sure he could handle the job. Of course, given that you are a member of SCPOCA, a much more enjoyable route might be to haul it to one of their legendary tech sessions, where the guys who can change engines in their sleep can pop the drivetrain out, fish out the tank, and then either have it repaired or replaced. If you had a replacement tank ready to go, they could easily have the tank changed out and the car driving again in less than a day. (I once participated in a tank change party in Northern California and we started at 9, fixed a bunch of other problems along the way and the car was running again by 3 in the afternoon). If you aren?t on the SCPOCA forum yet, you should get signed on there too. Cheers! Mikeb Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2019, at 06:43, wrote: > > 2/26/19 > Fuel Tank Repair / Replace > Thanks to everyone who offered advice on my fuel tank problem in the 87 > AmeriSport GT5S. I plan to proceed using all the info provided. First to > remove the tank then apply the advice and options. > I have no mechanical abilities nor equipment so I'll need to hire a shop. > Is there anyone out there near New Orleans or Pensacola who has experience > with Panteras and could accomplish the project. I can trailer the car with > no problem. I am a member of the Space City club but have never been able to > get to Houston. > Thanks Much All and Any Additional Advice or Suggestions will be > Appreciated, > Ken Montana / 228-832-1313 / montana at montanas.com > 1987 AmeriSport GT-5S / Black / VIN #: 1A9PN8740HD111017 > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:03 PM > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 > > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From opiecars at yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 13:05:38 2019 From: opiecars at yahoo.com (Opiecars .) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? In-Reply-To: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> References: <35A70BA9-1061-4894-AE3A-D0F8EEA17B07@aol.com> Message-ID: <380338258.5915551.1551204338782@mail.yahoo.com> You may want to try using Fastenal. They ship private party goods from store to store, along with their own "stuff," to offset their cost of shipping. I recently shipped a fully dressed and crated 351c from Seattle to Long Beach, CA for $260. I had no issues when I used them. You need to check with both the shipping and receiving store to make sure they have a forklift, if one is required. Payment can be pre-paid by the shipper or upon pick-up.? Contact them via this link. For a shipment quote, please visit:?http://www.fastenal.com/3pl Richard O.Panteras Northwest From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso To: Email List Address For Posting Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:03 PM Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? All, Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. 100 pounds ? 59?x21?x21? >From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. Thanks, Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- You may want to try using Fastenal. They ship private party goods from store to store, along with their own "stuff," to offset their cost of shipping. I recently shipped a fully dressed and crated 351c from Seattle to Long Beach, CA for $260. I had no issues when I used them. You need to check with both the shipping and receiving store to make sure they have a forklift, if one is required. Payment can be pre-paid by the shipper or upon pick-up. Contact them via this link. For a shipment quote, please visit: [1]http://www.fastenal.com/3pl Richard O. Panteras Northwest __________________________________________________________________ From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso To: Email List Address For Posting Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:03 PM Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? All, Looking for suggestions on shipping a large and heavy crate. 100 pounds a 59ax21ax21a From Fresno to Perrysburg, Ohio Greyhound bus website is not user-friendly. Looks like UPS is about $275 and fed ex is about $350 I have shipped a lot of tail lights but never anything this big. Looking for your wisdom and advice. Thanks, Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References Visible links 1. http://www.fastenal.com/3pl 2. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso Hidden links: 5. http://www.fastenal.com/3pl From fresnofinches at aol.com Tue Feb 26 19:27:43 2019 From: fresnofinches at aol.com (Larry Finch) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 16:27:43 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Best shipper for large heavy crate?? Message-ID: <66C7A406-0C81-49D4-8A9B-E7CA2C88CCD8@aol.com> With recommendations from Julian and Mark Charlton who have successfully used YRC I explored that option and found them to be easy to use and very affordable. Note for others following in my footsteps: you need to use a desktop instead of a smart phone when getting shipping quotes and filling out the necessary online paperwork. Thanks to all who responded. Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. -------------- next part -------------- With recommendations from Julian and Mark Charlton who have successfully used YRC I explored that option and found them to be easy to use and very affordable. Note for others following in my footsteps: you need to use a desktop instead of a smart phone when getting shipping quotes and filling out the necessary online paperwork. Thanks to all who responded. Larry Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. From p6746 at aol.com Tue Feb 26 23:56:08 2019 From: p6746 at aol.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 04:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Repair/Replace Follow-up Thanks References: <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977@mail.yahoo.com> Keep in mind that in order to remove the fuel tank both the engine and transaxle must be removed first.? This was how my 9 year restoration project started.? As things are removed you find yourself in "well since I've gone this far I might as well..." and you remove even more until it's to the point that you have completely disassembled everything.? Bob Reid In a message dated 2/26/2019 9:43:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, montana at montanas.com writes: 2/26/19Fuel Tank Repair / ReplaceThanks to everyone who offered advice on my fuel tank problem in the 87AmeriSport GT5S. I plan to proceed using all the info provided. First toremove the tank then apply the advice and options.I have no mechanical abilities nor equipment so I'll need to hire a shop.Is there anyone out there near New Orleans or Pensacola who has experiencewith Panteras and could accomplish the project. I can trailer the car withno problem. I am a member of the Space City club but have never been able toget to Houston.Thanks Much All and Any Additional Advice or Suggestions will beAppreciated,Ken Montana / 228-832-1313 / montana at montanas.com1987 AmeriSport GT-5S / Black / VIN #: 1A9PN8740HD111017 -----Original Message-----From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On BehalfOf detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.comSent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:03 PMTo: detomaso at server.detomasolist.comSubject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to??? detomaso at server.detomasolist.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCAPosted emails must not exceed 1.5 MegabytesDeTomaso mailing listDeTomaso at server.detomasolist.comhttp://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Keep in mind that in order to remove the fuel tank both the engine and transaxle must be removed first. This was how my 9 year restoration project started. As things are removed you find yourself in "well since I've gone this far I might as well..." and you remove even more until it's to the point that you have completely disassembled everything. Bob Reid In a message dated 2/26/2019 9:43:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, montana at montanas.com writes: 2/26/19 Fuel Tank Repair / Replace Thanks to everyone who offered advice on my fuel tank problem in the 87 AmeriSport GT5S. I plan to proceed using all the info provided. First to remove the tank then apply the advice and options. I have no mechanical abilities nor equipment so I'll need to hire a shop. Is there anyone out there near New Orleans or Pensacola who has experience with Panteras and could accomplish the project. I can trailer the car with no problem. I am a member of the Space City club but have never been able to get to Houston. Thanks Much All and Any Additional Advice or Suggestions will be Appreciated, Ken Montana / 228-832-1313 / [1]montana at montanas.com 1987 AmeriSport GT-5S / Black / VIN #: 1A9PN8740HD111017 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of [3]detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:03 PM To: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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References 1. mailto:montana at montanas.com 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From MikeLDrew at aol.com Wed Feb 27 04:57:08 2019 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com (Mike Drew) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 01:57:08 -0800 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Repair/Replace Follow-up Thanks In-Reply-To: <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2F7B0FEC-DB83-4DD8-BB81-47043B2392B2@aol.com> Bob, An excellent point. That?s why it?s always good to do this job at somebody else?s house. That provides added inspiration to concentrate on the job at hand, and not allow yourself to become distracted. Because you and everybody else know that at the end of the day, it?s time for you to GTFO so the car better be ready to go! :) Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2019, at 20:56, Bob via DeTomaso wrote: > > Keep in mind that in order to remove the fuel tank both the engine and > transaxle must be removed first. This was how my 9 year restoration > project started. As things are removed you find yourself in "well > since I've gone this far I might as well..." and you remove even more > until it's to the point that you have completely disassembled > everything. Bob Reid > In a message dated 2/26/2019 9:43:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > montana at montanas.com writes: > > 2/26/19 > > Fuel Tank Repair / Replace > > Thanks to everyone who offered advice on my fuel tank problem in the 87 > > AmeriSport GT5S. I plan to proceed using all the info provided. First > to > > remove the tank then apply the advice and options. > > I have no mechanical abilities nor equipment so I'll need to hire a > shop. > > Is there anyone out there near New Orleans or Pensacola who has > experience > > with Panteras and could accomplish the project. I can trailer the car > with > > no problem. I am a member of the Space City club but have never been > able to > > get to Houston. > > Thanks Much All and Any Additional Advice or Suggestions will be > > Appreciated, > > Ken Montana / 228-832-1313 / [1]montana at montanas.com > > 1987 AmeriSport GT-5S / Black / VIN #: 1A9PN8740HD111017 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > > Of [3]detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:03 PM > > To: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 > > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > > [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. mailto:montana at montanas.com > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com > 3. mailto:detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com > 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > 6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. From Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 27 10:01:56 2019 From: Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov (Himes, Terry (397C)) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:01:56 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel Tank Repair/Replace Follow-up Thanks In-Reply-To: <2F7B0FEC-DB83-4DD8-BB81-47043B2392B2@aol.com> References: <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170752343.5786250.1551243368977@mail.yahoo.com> <2F7B0FEC-DB83-4DD8-BB81-47043B2392B2@aol.com> Message-ID: It's like you both were reading my mail. Yes, my restoration was exactly as Bob said. And, I did it in my friends garage (as I don't have one). It definitely keeps the pressure on to GTFO! "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Juno Systems & Software Team TGO Sequence Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 thimes at jpl.nasa.gov ?? ?On 2/27/19, 1:57 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" wrote: Bob, An excellent point. That?s why it?s always good to do this job at somebody else?s house. That provides added inspiration to concentrate on the job at hand, and not allow yourself to become distracted. Because you and everybody else know that at the end of the day, it?s time for you to GTFO so the car better be ready to go! :) Mike Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2019, at 20:56, Bob via DeTomaso wrote: > > Keep in mind that in order to remove the fuel tank both the engine and > transaxle must be removed first. This was how my 9 year restoration > project started. As things are removed you find yourself in "well > since I've gone this far I might as well..." and you remove even more > until it's to the point that you have completely disassembled > everything. Bob Reid > In a message dated 2/26/2019 9:43:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > montana at montanas.com writes: > > 2/26/19 > > Fuel Tank Repair / Replace > > Thanks to everyone who offered advice on my fuel tank problem in the 87 > > AmeriSport GT5S. I plan to proceed using all the info provided. First > to > > remove the tank then apply the advice and options. > > I have no mechanical abilities nor equipment so I'll need to hire a > shop. > > Is there anyone out there near New Orleans or Pensacola who has > experience > > with Panteras and could accomplish the project. I can trailer the car > with > > no problem. I am a member of the Space City club but have never been > able to > > get to Houston. > > Thanks Much All and Any Additional Advice or Suggestions will be > > Appreciated, > > Ken Montana / 228-832-1313 / [1]montana at montanas.com > > 1987 AmeriSport GT-5S / Black / VIN #: 1A9PN8740HD111017 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > > Of [3]detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:03 PM > > To: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 > > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > > [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com > > [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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