[DeTomaso] Headlight conversion (Rick Shawver)
Fred Foreman
fred4man at att.net
Tue Dec 31 15:15:40 EST 2019
Only time H-4's draw more power is when you use the higher wattage bulbs.
I personally like the 7" lamp look. So I installed relays. I have the Cibie 7" #82440 housings with H-4 bulbs and they are very good. I like their European beam pattern which has a very definite top cut-off on the low beams. With the Cibie headlight assemblies you have a separately replaceable H-4 bulb manufactured by Hella, Sylvania, Phillips, China, etc. The H-4 bulbs have 1/4" spade connectors and fit the (my stock) Panera's electrical connector.
Now days you could just install LEDs and avoid the light relays. There are 100's of LED bulbs available, which I have not yet tried.
Here is an article on installing relays for the lights, headlights and the ignition switch at the same time since they are both in the same area under the dash..
http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/techinfo/Relays/
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5. Re: Gear box - "singing" noise (Dave Londry)
6. Re: Advantages of CV Half Shafts? (David Nunn)
7. Re: Headlight conversion (billmoore6480)
8. Re: Headlight replacement (Scott Mead Photography)
9. Re: Headlight conversion (Jo De Tomaso)
10. Re: Headlight replacement (Julian Kift)
11. Re: Headlight replacement (B Hower)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 11:06:36 -0700
From: Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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Caution on the h4 bulbs. While they work great and are almost plug and
play, they do draw more power. I fried two switches before adding relays
to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
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Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost plug
and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before adding
relays to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:55:35 +0100
From: "=?utf-8?Q?Thomas_T=C3=B6rnblom?=" <tipo874 at gmail.com>
To: Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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Standard (European) H4 bulbs draw 55/60W.
I assume all European DeTomasos had H4 bulbs from factory.
Relays are a good idea in any case.
Thomas
> 28 dec. 2019 kl. 19:07 skrev Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com>:
>
> ? Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost plug
> and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before adding
> relays to support the extra power requirement.
> Thanks Rick
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 10:58:06 -0800
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light meter) and power draw was minimal.
https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are .32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights 002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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-------------- next part --------------
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
I swapped to mine to,
Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
better light.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
403.860.4300
-------- Original message --------
From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
be. I
am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
Sylvania
H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
wide
not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
separate detachable bulbs?
2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
with
a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for the
pin
size on these or any bulbs.
I must be missing something easy..
Thanks,
John
For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I
picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the
back
but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female wire
connectors.
1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
separate detachable bulbs?
2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference
for
the pin size on these or any bulbs.
I must be missing something easy....
Thanks,
John
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:06:57 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>,
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light meter) and power draw was minimal.
https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are .32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights 002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:43:11 -0800
From: Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gear box - "singing" noise
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Hi Hartwig
I tried to respond at the airbus.com address, but it bounced.
Did you get any response on the ZF question?
I'm always interested.
Dave
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On 2019-12-16 12:48 a.m., ASSHAUER, HARTWIG wrote:
> Hello from France,
>
> I have taken the gearbox (dash 2) out of my Pantera for overhaul (oil
> leaks and noise). Changing the shaft seals was not a big issue,
> however, identifying the root cause of the "singing" noise (at low
> power/torque) from the gearbox is more difficult. I checked the pattern
> of the crown wheel which seems to indicate that there is a lack of
> backlash between pinion gear and crown wheel. In addition, I found that
> there is virtually no torque resistance at the differential housing
> whereas it should be between 35 and 50 Newton when pulling on a robe
> that has been wind around the housing (according to manual). This can
> be corrected by changing the shims 907. The issue is that changing
> those shims 907 is quite a challenge and I'm scared to break something
> because you need to press out the bearing outer ring together with the
> roller bearing. Did anybody of you have every tried to adjust the
> torque resistance and the backlash of the differential housing?
>
> Brgds
>
> Hartwig
>
>
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Hi Hartwig
I tried to respond at the airbus.com address, but it bounced.
Did you get any response on the ZF question?
I'm always interested.
Dave
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[1]davel at trguys.com
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On 2019-12-16 12:48 a.m., ASSHAUER, HARTWIG wrote:
Hello from France,
I have taken the gearbox (dash 2) out of my Pantera for overhaul (oil
leaks and noise). Changing the shaft seals was not a big issue,
however, identifying the root cause of the "singing" noise (at low
power/torque) from the gearbox is more difficult. I checked the pattern
of the crown wheel which seems to indicate that there is a lack of
backlash between pinion gear and crown wheel. In addition, I found that
there is virtually no torque resistance at the differential housing
whereas it should be between 35 and 50 Newton when pulling on a robe
that has been wind around the housing (according to manual). This can
be corrected by changing the shims 907. The issue is that changing
those shims 907 is quite a challenge and I'm scared to break something
because you need to press out the bearing outer ring together with the
roller bearing. Did anybody of you have every tried to adjust the
torque resistance and the backlash of the differential housing?
Brgds
Hartwig
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 14:01:38 -0800
From: "David Nunn" <dnunn at telus.net>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Advantages of CV Half Shafts?
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The 934 CV's have a 128mm OD, 33 splines and use 12mm bolts vs. the 930's
108mm, 28 splines and 10mm bolts. In addition, most race shops carry
modified 934 CV's that have 35 splines and use half inch bolts.
Lightened/strengthened 930 CV's are common as are gun drilled 300M shafts.
Years ago, Gary Hall told me the splined, sliding part of the Pantera's
U-Jointed half-shafts locks-up under hard acceleration. As the wheels move
up and down, the splined shafts don't want to slide in and out. This creates
a vibration as the shafts "hammer" themselves in and out of the locked-up
coupling. CV joints don't suffer from this same lock-up issue, so
acceleration is much smoother.
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The 934 CV's have a 128mm OD, 33 splines and use 12mm bolts vs. the
930's 108mm, 28 splines and 10mm bolts. In addition, most race shops
carry modified 934 CV's that have 35 splines and use half inch bolts.
Lightened/strengthened 930 CV's are common as are gun drilled 300M
shafts.
Years ago, Gary Hall told me the splined, sliding part of the Pantera's
U-Jointed half-shafts locks-up under hard acceleration. As the wheels
move up and down, the splined shafts don't want to slide in and out.
This creates a vibration as the shafts "hammer" themselves in and out
of the locked-up coupling. CV joints don't suffer from this same
lock-up issue, so acceleration is much smoother.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:57:11 -0700
From: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
To: Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com>,
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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Uae LED headlights, it's 2020CheersBill MooreCalgary?403.860.4300
-------- Original message --------From: Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com> Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00) To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion Caution on the h4 bulbs.? While they work great and are almost plug andplay, they do draw more power.? I fried two switches before adding relaysto support the extra power requirement.Thanks Rick?? Caution on the h4 bulbs.A? While they work great and are almost plug?? and play, they do draw more power.A? I fried two switches before adding?? relays to support the extra power requirement.?? Thanks Rick_______________________________________________Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCAPosted emails must not exceed 1.5 MegabytesDeTomaso mailing listDeTomaso at server.detomasolist.comhttp://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomasoTo manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward an
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Uae LED headlights, it's 2020
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
403.860.4300
-------- Original message --------
From: Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com>
Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
Caution on the h4 bulbs. While they work great and are almost plug and
play, they do draw more power. I fried two switches before adding
relays
to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost plug
and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
adding
relays to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:47:27 -0800
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the list.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over the LED?
>
> I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
>
> Julian
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
> To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light meter) and power draw was minimal.
>
> https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ? I swapped to mine to,
> >
> > Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> > better light.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bill Moore
> > Calgary
> > 403.860.4300
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> > Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
> >
> > For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> > be. I
> > am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the original
> > Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> > Sylvania
> > H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are .32"
> > wide
> > not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> > 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> > separate detachable bulbs?
> > 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights 002395301
> > with
> > a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for the
> > pin
> > size on these or any bulbs.
> > I must be missing something easy..
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> > be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
> > original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I
> > picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the
> > back
> > but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female wire
> > connectors.
> > 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> > separate detachable bulbs?
> > 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> > 002395301
> > with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference
> > for
> > the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> > I must be missing something easy....
> > Thanks,
> > John
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As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 09:01:52 +0100
From: Jo De Tomaso <detomjo at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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In Belgium we are not (yet) allowed to use LED headlights.
Why? I have no idea.... maybe politicians who have no idea what a car and
safety is.
Jochen
Uae LED headlights, it's 2020
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rick Shawver <rick.shawver at gmail.com>
> Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
>
> Caution on the h4 bulbs. While they work great and are almost plug and
> play, they do draw more power. I fried two switches before adding
> relays
> to support the extra power requirement.
> Thanks Rick
> Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost plug
> and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
> adding
> relays to support the extra power requirement.
> Thanks Rick
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In Belgium we are not (yet) allowed to use LED headlights.A
Why? I have no idea.... maybe politicians who have no idea what a car
and safety is.
Jochen
A A Uae LED headlights, it's 2020
A A Cheers
A A Bill Moore
A A Calgary
A A 403.860.4300
A A -------- Original message --------
A A From: Rick Shawver <[1]rick.shawver at gmail.com>
A A Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
A A To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
A A Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost
plug and
A A play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
adding
A A relays
A A to support the extra power requirement.
A A Thanks Rick
A A A Caution on the h4 bulbs.AA While they work great and are
almost plug
A A A and play, they do draw more power.AA I fried two switches
before
A A adding
A A A relays to support the extra power requirement.
A A A Thanks Rick
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:15:49 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have Amerisport 60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the 60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now experiment with an LED bulb in them.
Julian
________________________________
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
?
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light meter) and power draw was minimal.
https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are .32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights 002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
> _______________________________________________
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Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have Amerisport
60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light
front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the
60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
experiment with an LED bulb in them.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
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Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:24:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>, Julian
Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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I also have the Amerisport 60mm quad lights.? If you make the switch, please let me know how you like them.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 9:16:08 AM CST, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
? Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have Amerisport
?60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light
? front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the
? 60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
? experiment with an LED bulb in them.
? Julian
? ? __________________________________________________________________
? From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
? Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
? To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
? Cc: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
? detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
? John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
? As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily
? for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
? look.? That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There
? are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID
? size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
? list.
? Sent from my iPhone
? ? On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
? ? wrote:
? I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
? the LED?
? I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
? day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
? Julian
? ? __________________________________________________________________
? From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
? Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
? Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
? To: billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
? Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
? Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
? Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
? meter) and power draw was minimal.
? [1]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-kit
? /
? Sent from my iPhone
? > On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
? wrote:
? >
? >? ? I swapped to mine to,
? >
? >? Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
? much
? >? better light.
? >
? >? Cheers
? >
? >? Bill Moore
? >? Calgary
? >? 403.860.4300
? >
? >? -------- Original message --------
? >? From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
? >? Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
? >? To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? >? Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
? >
? >? For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
? should
? >? be. I
? >? am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
? original
? >? Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
? >? Sylvania
? >? H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the? back but they are
? .32"
? >? wide
? >? not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
? >? 1.? ? ? Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
? two
? >? separate detachable bulbs?
? >? 2.? ? ? Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
? 002395301
? >? with
? >? a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
? the
? >? pin
? >? size on these or any bulbs.
? >? I must be missing something easy..
? >? Thanks,
? >? John
? >? ? ? For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
? should
? >? ? ? be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
? the
? >? ? ? original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
? I
? >? ? ? picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
? the
? >? back
? >? ? ? but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
? wire
? >? ? ? connectors.
? >? ? ? 1.? ? ? Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
? two
? >? ? ? separate detachable bulbs?
? >? ? ? 2.? ? ? Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
? >? 002395301
? >? ? ? with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
? reference
? >? for
? >? ? ? the pin size on these or any bulbs.
? >? ? ? I must be missing something easy....
? >? ? ? Thanks,
? >? ? ? John
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I also have the Amerisport 60mm quad lights. If you make the switch,
please let me know how you like them.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 9:16:08 AM CST, Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have
Amerisport
60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light
front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the
60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
experiment with an LED bulb in them.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Scott Mead Photography <[1]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
To: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: billmoore6480 <[3]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
John McKee <[6]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion
primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs.
There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the
HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
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behalf of
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Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
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Cc: [11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[13]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1][14]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight
-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[15]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[16]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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Only time H-4's draw more power is when you use the higher wattage
bulbs.
I personally like the 7" lamp look. So I installed relays. I have the
Cibie 7" #82440 housings with H-4 bulbs and they are very good. I like
their European beam pattern which has a very definite top cut-off on
the low beams. With the Cibie headlight assemblies you have a
separately replaceable H-4 bulb manufactured by Hella, Sylvania,
Phillips, China, etc. The H-4 bulbs have 1/4" spade connectors and fit
the (my stock) Panera's electrical connector.
Now days you could just install LEDs and avoid the light relays. There
are 100's of LED bulbs available, which I have not yet tried.
Here is an article on installing relays for the lights, headlights and
the ignition switch at the same time since they are both in the same
area under the dash..
http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/techinfo/Relays/
Fred Foreman
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3. Re: Headlight replacement (Scott Mead Photography)
4. Re: Headlight replacement (Julian Kift)
5. Re: Gear box - "singing" noise (Dave Londry)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 11:06:36 -0700
From: Rick Shawver <[5]rick.shawver at gmail.com>
To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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Caution on the h4 bulbs. While they work great and are almost plug and
play, they do draw more power. I fried two switches before adding
relays
to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
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Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost plug
and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
adding
relays to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:55:35 +0100
From: "=?utf-8?Q?Thomas_T=C3=B6rnblom?=" <[8]tipo874 at gmail.com>
To: Rick Shawver <[9]rick.shawver at gmail.com>
Cc: [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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Standard (European) H4 bulbs draw 55/60W.
I assume all European DeTomasos had H4 bulbs from factory.
Relays are a good idea in any case.
Thomas
> 28 dec. 2019 kl. 19:07 skrev Rick Shawver
<[12]rick.shawver at gmail.com>:
>
> ? Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost
plug
> and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
adding
> relays to support the extra power requirement.
> Thanks Rick
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[20]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-ki
t/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[21]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[22]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1][28]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight
-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[29]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
I swapped to mine to,
Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
better light.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
403.860.4300
-------- Original message --------
From: John McKee <[30]johnmckee at cox.net>
Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: [31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
be. I
am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
Sylvania
H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
wide
not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
separate detachable bulbs?
2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
with
a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
pin
size on these or any bulbs.
I must be missing something easy..
Thanks,
John
For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
the
original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
back
but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
connectors.
1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
separate detachable bulbs?
2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
for
the pin size on these or any bulbs.
I must be missing something easy....
Thanks,
John
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:06:57 +0000
From: Julian Kift <[37]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <[38]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>,
billmoore6480 <[39]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
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<[41]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
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of Scott Mead Photography <[45]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <[46]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: [47]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[48]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[49]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[50]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-ki
t/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[51]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[52]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [53]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[58]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Scott Mead Photography <[59]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <[60]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: [61]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[62]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[63]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1][64]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight
-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[65]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[66]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [67]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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[72]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-ki
t/
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:43:11 -0800
From: Dave Londry <[75]davel at trguys.com>
To: [76]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gear box - "singing" noise
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Hi Hartwig
I tried to respond at the airbus.com address, but it bounced.
Did you get any response on the ZF question?
I'm always interested.
Dave
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On 2019-12-16 12:48 a.m., ASSHAUER, HARTWIG wrote:
> Hello from France,
>
> I have taken the gearbox (dash 2) out of my Pantera for overhaul
(oil
> leaks and noise). Changing the shaft seals was not a big issue,
> however, identifying the root cause of the "singing" noise (at low
> power/torque) from the gearbox is more difficult. I checked the
pattern
> of the crown wheel which seems to indicate that there is a lack of
> backlash between pinion gear and crown wheel. In addition, I found
that
> there is virtually no torque resistance at the differential
housing
> whereas it should be between 35 and 50 Newton when pulling on a
robe
> that has been wind around the housing (according to manual). This
can
> be corrected by changing the shims 907. The issue is that changing
> those shims 907 is quite a challenge and I'm scared to break
something
> because you need to press out the bearing outer ring together with
the
> roller bearing. Did anybody of you have every tried to adjust the
> torque resistance and the backlash of the differential housing?
>
> Brgds
>
> Hartwig
>
>
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Hi Hartwig
I tried to respond at the airbus.com address, but it bounced.
Did you get any response on the ZF question?
I'm always interested.
Dave
--
Dave Londry
TRGuys.com
[1][81]davel at trguys.com
Cell 604-721-2278
Landline 604-589-9182
Skype embeddedspaces
On 2019-12-16 12:48 a.m., ASSHAUER, HARTWIG wrote:
Hello from France,
I have taken the gearbox (dash 2) out of my Pantera for overhaul (oil
leaks and noise). Changing the shaft seals was not a big issue,
however, identifying the root cause of the "singing" noise (at low
power/torque) from the gearbox is more difficult. I checked the
pattern
of the crown wheel which seems to indicate that there is a lack of
backlash between pinion gear and crown wheel. In addition, I found
that
there is virtually no torque resistance at the differential housing
whereas it should be between 35 and 50 Newton when pulling on a robe
that has been wind around the housing (according to manual). This can
be corrected by changing the shims 907. The issue is that changing
those shims 907 is quite a challenge and I'm scared to break
something
because you need to press out the bearing outer ring together with
the
roller bearing. Did anybody of you have every tried to adjust the
torque resistance and the backlash of the differential housing?
Brgds
Hartwig
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 14:01:38 -0800
From: "David Nunn" <[87]dnunn at telus.net>
To: <[88]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Advantages of CV Half Shafts?
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The 934 CV's have a 128mm OD, 33 splines and use 12mm bolts vs. the
930's
108mm, 28 splines and 10mm bolts. In addition, most race shops carry
modified 934 CV's that have 35 splines and use half inch bolts.
Lightened/strengthened 930 CV's are common as are gun drilled 300M
shafts.
Years ago, Gary Hall told me the splined, sliding part of the Pantera's
U-Jointed half-shafts locks-up under hard acceleration. As the wheels
move
up and down, the splined shafts don't want to slide in and out. This
creates
a vibration as the shafts "hammer" themselves in and out of the
locked-up
coupling. CV joints don't suffer from this same lock-up issue, so
acceleration is much smoother.
-------------- next part --------------
The 934 CV's have a 128mm OD, 33 splines and use 12mm bolts vs. the
930's 108mm, 28 splines and 10mm bolts. In addition, most race shops
carry modified 934 CV's that have 35 splines and use half inch bolts.
Lightened/strengthened 930 CV's are common as are gun drilled 300M
shafts.
Years ago, Gary Hall told me the splined, sliding part of the
Pantera's
U-Jointed half-shafts locks-up under hard acceleration. As the wheels
move up and down, the splined shafts don't want to slide in and out.
This creates a vibration as the shafts "hammer" themselves in and out
of the locked-up coupling. CV joints don't suffer from this same
lock-up issue, so acceleration is much smoother.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:57:11 -0700
From: billmoore6480 <[89]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
To: Rick Shawver <[90]rick.shawver at gmail.com>,
[91]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
Message-ID: <[92]5e07f9e0.1c69fb81.2cb38.95af at mx.google.com>
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Uae LED headlights, it's 2020CheersBill MooreCalgary?403.860.4300
-------- Original message --------From: Rick Shawver
<[93]rick.shawver at gmail.com> Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: [94]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight
conversion Caution on the h4 bulbs.? While they work great and are
almost plug andplay, they do draw more power.? I fried two switches
before adding relaysto support the extra power requirement.Thanks
Rick?? Caution on the h4 bulbs.A? While they work great and are almost
plug?? and play, they do draw more power.A? I fried two switches before
adding?? relays to support the extra power requirement.?? Thanks
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Uae LED headlights, it's 2020
Cheers
Bill Moore
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From: Rick Shawver <[96]rick.shawver at gmail.com>
Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: [97]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
Caution on the h4 bulbs. While they work great and are almost plug
and
play, they do draw more power. I fried two switches before adding
relays
to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost
plug
and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
adding
relays to support the extra power requirement.
Thanks Rick
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:47:27 -0800
From: Scott Mead Photography <[100]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
To: Julian Kift <[101]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: "[102]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[103]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee
<[104]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[106]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
>
> I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
>
> Julian
> From: DeTomaso <[107]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of Scott Mead Photography <[108]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
> To: billmoore6480 <[109]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
> Cc: [110]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[111]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[112]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my
light meter) and power draw was minimal.
>
>
[113]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-k
it/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[114]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ? I swapped to mine to,
> >
> > Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> > better light.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bill Moore
> > Calgary
> > 403.860.4300
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: John McKee <[115]johnmckee at cox.net>
> > Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> > To: [116]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
> >
> > For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> > be. I
> > am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> > Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> > Sylvania
> > H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> > wide
> > not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> > 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> > separate detachable bulbs?
> > 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> > with
> > a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> > pin
> > size on these or any bulbs.
> > I must be missing something easy..
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> > be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and the
> > original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them I
> > picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> > back
> > but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> > connectors.
> > 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the two
> > separate detachable bulbs?
> > 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> > 002395301
> > with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> > for
> > the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> > I must be missing something easy....
> > Thanks,
> > John
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As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion
primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs.
There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the
HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[121]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[122]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Scott Mead Photography <[123]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <[124]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: [125]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[126]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[127]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1][128]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headligh
t-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[129]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[130]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [131]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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[136]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-k
it/
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 09:01:52 +0100
From: Jo De Tomaso <[139]detomjo at gmail.com>
To: DeTomaso Mail List <[140]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
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In Belgium we are not (yet) allowed to use LED headlights.
Why? I have no idea.... maybe politicians who have no idea what a car
and
safety is.
Jochen
Uae LED headlights, it's 2020
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rick Shawver <[142]rick.shawver at gmail.com>
> Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [143]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
>
> Caution on the h4 bulbs. While they work great and are almost
plug and
> play, they do draw more power. I fried two switches before adding
> relays
> to support the extra power requirement.
> Thanks Rick
> Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are almost
plug
> and play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
> adding
> relays to support the extra power requirement.
> Thanks Rick
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In Belgium we are not (yet) allowed to use LED headlights.A
Why? I have no idea.... maybe politicians who have no idea what a car
and safety is.
Jochen
A A Uae LED headlights, it's 2020
A A Cheers
A A Bill Moore
A A Calgary
A A 403.860.4300
A A -------- Original message --------
A A From: Rick Shawver <[1][148]rick.shawver at gmail.com>
A A Date: 2019-12-28 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
A A To: [2][149]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight conversion
A A Caution on the h4 bulbs.A While they work great and are
almost
plug and
A A play, they do draw more power.A I fried two switches before
adding
A A relays
A A to support the extra power requirement.
A A Thanks Rick
A A A Caution on the h4 bulbs.AA While they work great and are
almost plug
A A A and play, they do draw more power.AA I fried two switches
before
A A adding
A A A relays to support the extra power requirement.
A A A Thanks Rick
A A _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:15:49 +0000
From: Julian Kift <[160]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <[161]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Cc: "[162]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[163]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee
<[164]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have Amerisport
60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light
front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the
60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
experiment with an LED bulb in them.
Julian
________________________________
From: Scott Mead Photography <[166]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
To: Julian Kift <[167]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: billmoore6480 <[168]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
[169]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[170]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[171]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs. There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[172]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
?
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[173]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of Scott Mead Photography <[174]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <[175]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: [176]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[177]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[178]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[179]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headlight-k
it/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[180]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw, much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[181]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [182]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
> _______________________________________________
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Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have Amerisport
60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light
front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the
60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
experiment with an LED bulb in them.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Scott Mead Photography <[187]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
To: Julian Kift <[188]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: billmoore6480 <[189]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
[190]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[191]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
John McKee <[192]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion
primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs.
There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the
HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[193]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[194]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Scott Mead Photography <[195]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <[196]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: [197]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[198]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[199]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1][200]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headligh
t-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[201]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[202]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [203]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:24:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: B Hower <[211]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <[212]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>,
Julian
Kift <[213]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: "[214]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[215]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, John McKee
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
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I also have the Amerisport 60mm quad lights.? If you make the switch,
please let me know how you like them.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 9:16:08 AM CST, Julian Kift
<[218]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
? Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have Amerisport
?60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the light
? front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on the
? 60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
? experiment with an LED bulb in them.
? Julian
? ? __________________________________________________________________
? From: Scott Mead Photography <[219]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
? Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
? To: Julian Kift <[220]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
? Cc: billmoore6480 <[221]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
? [222]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[223]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
? John McKee <[224]johnmckee at cox.net>
? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
? As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion
primarily
? for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
? look.? That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs.
There
? are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the
HID
? size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
? list.
? Sent from my iPhone
? ? On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[225]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
? ? wrote:
? I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out over
? the LED?
? I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
? day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
? Julian
? ? __________________________________________________________________
? From: DeTomaso <[226]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
? Scott Mead Photography <[227]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
? Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
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? <[230]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; John McKee
<[231]johnmckee at cox.net>
? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
? Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
? Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
? meter) and power draw was minimal.
?
[1][232]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-headligh
t-kit
? /
? Sent from my iPhone
? > On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[233]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
? wrote:
? >
? >? ? I swapped to mine to,
? >
? >? Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
? much
? >? better light.
? >
? >? Cheers
? >
? >? Bill Moore
? >? Calgary
? >? 403.860.4300
? >
? >? -------- Original message --------
? >? From: John McKee <[234]johnmckee at cox.net>
? >? Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
? >? To: [235]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? >? Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
? >
? >? For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
? should
? >? be. I
? >? am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
? original
? >? Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked up
? >? Sylvania
? >? H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the? back but they are
? .32"
? >? wide
? >? not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
? >? 1.? ? ? Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
? two
? >? separate detachable bulbs?
? >? 2.? ? ? Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
? 002395301
? >? with
? >? a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference for
? the
? >? pin
? >? size on these or any bulbs.
? >? I must be missing something easy..
? >? Thanks,
? >? John
? >? ? ? For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
? should
? >? ? ? be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
? the
? >? ? ? original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them
? I
? >? ? ? picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on
? the
? >? back
? >? ? ? but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
? wire
? >? ? ? connectors.
? >? ? ? 1.? ? ? Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the
? two
? >? ? ? separate detachable bulbs?
? >? ? ? 2.? ? ? Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
? >? 002395301
? >? ? ? with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
? reference
? >? for
? >? ? ? the pin size on these or any bulbs.
? >? ? ? I must be missing something easy....
? >? ? ? Thanks,
? >? ? ? John
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I also have the Amerisport 60mm quad lights. If you make the switch,
please let me know how you like them.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
be
! )
On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 9:16:08 AM CST, Julian Kift
<[245]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for that valuable information Scott, I already have
Amerisport
60mm quad lights on the GT5 with about a 3" open height on the
light
front and think it suits the wide body lines. The light output on
the
60mm is better than I had with the previous 90mm version, I may now
experiment with an LED bulb in them.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Scott Mead Photography
<[1][246]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:47 PM
To: Julian Kift <[2][247]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: billmoore6480 <[3][248]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>;
[4][249]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[5][250]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
John McKee <[6][251]johnmckee at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
As I rarely drive the car at night, I did the HID conversion
primarily
for looks - the smaller headlamp opening really trumps the frog eye
look. That said, the LED bulbs were much brighter than the HIDs.
There
are HID to LED conversations (I believe Hella also had LEDs in the
HID
size) which are now available. That upgrade is probably next on the
list.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Julian Kift
<[7][252]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be interested to know how much more light the HID gives out
over
the LED?
I did an LED bulb conversion on my Raptor and it was like night and
day, hard to believe the HID would be better again.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[8][253]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on
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Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:58 AM
To: billmoore6480 <[10][255]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
Cc: [11][256]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
Before I did the SACC HID conversion, I was using LED bulbs by
Vintage
Car LEDs. The fit was perfect, light was bright (5,000K on my light
meter) and power draw was minimal.
[1][14][259]https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vcm3-7-inch-led-head
light
-kit
/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, billmoore6480
<[15][260]billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I swapped to mine to,
>
> Vision x led 7" headlights. Done in 15 minutes. Lower amp draw,
much
> better light.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 403.860.4300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John McKee <[16][261]johnmckee at cox.net>
> Date: 2019-12-27 1:35 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [17][262]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlight replacement
>
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think it
should
> be. I
> am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly and the
original
> Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace them I picked
up
> Sylvania
> H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins on the back but they
are
.32"
> wide
> not the .25" like the original female wire connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
002395301
> with
> a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any reference
for
the
> pin
> size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy..
> Thanks,
> John
> For some reason this seems a lot harder than I would think
it
should
> be. I am cleaning and putting together my headlight assembly
and
the
> original Carello bulbs are rusty on the inside. To replace
them
I
> picked up Sylvania H6024 sealed bulbs that have three pins
on
the
> back
> but they are .32" wide not the .25" like the original female
wire
> connectors.
> 1. Is there a direct replacement for the original with
the
two
> separate detachable bulbs?
> 2. Would the 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights
> 002395301
> with a single detachable H4 bulb work? I cannot find any
reference
> for
> the pin size on these or any bulbs.
> I must be missing something easy....
> Thanks,
> John
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