[DeTomaso] Advantages of CV Half Shafts

[Julian Kift]

I would expect there are any number of shops in Europe capable of fabricating custom length CV axles, given their earlier popularity. Axle length is dependent on the arc of travel of the horizontal (shortest distance) and uncompressed suspension (longest distance), so some basic measurements will be required. A good shop should have cassettes to hold the CV joints and get a really accurate measurement, although you can make up a jig yourself as well.

Unless the car was running a Porsche G50 originally (I thought it had a Hewland?) the CV axles you acquired with it are unlikely to be of much use, unless you get really lucky!

Julian

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Subject: Advantages of CV Half Shafts

Hi all,
I am in the process of finally finishing the endless rebuilding of the ADA Pantera, ( VIN 9628 ) and will hopefully bring the car back to the tracks this coming year and drive it , providing my health allows it AND if I can secure a decent lap time ( both still unsure for the time being, sadly )
The car came with no engine and o gearbox  when I bought it in 2007, but with a case full of CV half shafts. I don't know yet what size I will need ( length and diameter ).
I am convinced , although I am not a professional, that CV drive shafts are far superior to the original DT "truck style" drive shaft
The replacement spares , needed for the rebuilt of the car, were very difficult to locate and adapt. Indeed, the car is a one off, and now comes with a brand new 0 mile (upside down) Porsche G50 manual race gearbox mofified by Renegade Hybrids in Las Vegas. This (baffled ) gearbox is coupled through of state of the art one of a kind magnesium bellhousing, to a 0 mile all alloy atmospheric Ford Boss engine ( built in time by John Christian with around 600 HP, and fitted thereafter with a Kinsler injection system and Cosworth Pectel ECU ). The engine bay looks like a gas factory !
This all transmits the power to the rear wheels that are 18 " BBS ( Le Mans 1994 original equipment with Michelin slick tires , soft compound )   and mounted on a complete Porsche 956-962 magnesium rear suspension ( original ADA equipment at Le Mans 1994 and 1996 ) . To give you an example, one rear hub is costing 28.000 euros + 22 % local Value Added Tax.
It is an expensive car...
Needless to say that this ADA Pantera is a unique piece of art and should be a rocket on the tracks ( although it will be among the oldest in its racing category.)
I trust Damien, my faithful mechanic, to be able to find the right set up and measures, but if someone from " the family " could help us in defining how to measaure the right parameters for the axles (length and diameter) I would save me time and money, a thing I don't have in excess for the time being..
I was advised tio buy Porsche CV joints , but those seem to cost around 5000 euros fotr the set ( in order to resist the 600 HP, despite a very light car weight, a little less than 1000 kilos ) . This makes the SACC CV joints uncomparably unexpensive, if not cheap !
I will bring updates as time goes by. Thanks for the help !
Happy New Year to all of you and see you at Daytona Classic 2020 !
Patrick
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   I would expect there are any number of shops in Europe capable of
   fabricating custom length CV axles, given their earlier popularity.
   Axle length is dependent on the arc of travel of the horizontal
   (shortest distance) and uncompressed suspension (longest distance), so
   some basic measurements will be required. A good shop should have
   cassettes to hold the CV joints and get a really accurate measurement,
   although you can make up a jig yourself as well.

   Unless the car was running a Porsche G50 originally (I thought it had a
   Hewland?) the CV axles you acquired with it are unlikely to be of much
   use, unless you get really lucky!

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Patrick HALS <patrickhals at gmail.com>
   Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:23 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se>;
   Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; steve at snclocks.com
   <steve at snclocks.com>; mbefthomas at comcast.net <mbefthomas at comcast.net>;
   byrdjf at embarqmail.com <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>; Damien de Fays
   <damien_0259 at hotmail.fr>
   Subject: Advantages of CV Half Shafts

   Hi all,
   I am in the process of finally finishing the endless rebuilding of the
   ADA Pantera, ( VIN 9628 ) and will hopefully bring the car back to the
   tracks this coming year and drive it , providing my health allows it
   AND if I can secure a decent lap time ( both still unsure for the time
   being, sadly )
   The car came with no engine and o gearbox  when I bought it in 2007,
   but with a case full of CV half shafts. I don't know yet what size I
   will need ( length and diameter ).
   I am convinced , although I am not a professional, that CV drive shafts
   are far superior to the original DT "truck style" drive shaft
   The replacement spares , needed for the rebuilt of the car, were very
   difficult to locate and adapt. Indeed, the car is a one off, and now
   comes with a brand new 0 mile (upside down) Porsche G50 manual race
   gearbox mofified by Renegade Hybrids in Las Vegas. This (baffled )
   gearbox is coupled through of state of the art one of a kind magnesium
   bellhousing, to a 0 mile all alloy atmospheric Ford Boss engine ( built
   in time by John Christian with around 600 HP, and fitted thereafter
   with a Kinsler injection system and Cosworth Pectel ECU ). The engine
   bay looks like a gas factory !
   This all transmits the power to the rear wheels that are 18 " BBS ( Le
   Mans 1994 original equipment with Michelin slick tires , soft compound
   )   and mounted on a complete Porsche 956-962 magnesium rear suspension
   ( original ADA equipment at Le Mans 1994 and 1996 ) . To give you an
   example, one rear hub is costing 28.000 euros + 22 % local Value Added
   Tax.
   It is an expensive car...
   Needless to say that this ADA Pantera is a unique piece of art and
   should be a rocket on the tracks ( although it will be among the oldest
   in its racing category.)
   I trust Damien, my faithful mechanic, to be able to find the right set
   up and measures, but if someone from " the family " could help us in
   defining how to measaure the right parameters for the axles (length and
   diameter) I would save me time and money, a thing I don't have in
   excess for the time being..
   I was advised tio buy Porsche CV joints , but those seem to cost around
   5000 euros fotr the set ( in order to resist the 600 HP, despite a very
   light car weight, a little less than 1000 kilos ) . This makes the SACC
   CV joints uncomparably unexpensive, if not cheap !
   I will bring updates as time goes by. Thanks for the help !
   Happy New Year to all of you and see you at Daytona Classic 2020 !
   Patrick