[DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sun Dec 22 09:05:21 EST 2019
Brent,
Are you installing the brand new version that just came out recently, or the older version?
Mike
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> On Dec 22, 2019, at 14:13, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> .
> FYI - Rich Boschert and I are in the process of installing the Holley
> Sniper EFI on two of our non-Panteras (72 Mustang, 72 Datsun with a
> 350ci) to get a feel for how it works and goes in. The plan is that if
> all goes well with these, we'll likely look at doing both our Panteras
> early next year.
> .
> Rich has installed a Sniper on a friends 60's truck with a 350 and it
> made all the difference in the world. Power, throttle response, idle,
> etc. Now, the carb was probably WAY out of tune, but the Holley took
> all that hassle away!
> .
> brent
> .
>
> On Saturday, December 21, 2019, 09:23:05 AM PST, Jeff Detrich
> <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting article that I've not seen before. FI for Pantera in Hot
> Rod Magazine. 2017.
>
> [1][1]https://www.hotrod.com/articles/installing-a-fast-ez-efi-and-ingl
> ese
> s-8v-induction-system-on-a-351-cleveland/
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:37 PM billmoore6480
> <[2][2]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ken, or you could install a 750 DP
> Cheers
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 4038604300
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Date: 12/20/19 4:33 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: Julian Kift <[4][4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Jeff Detrich
> <[5][5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: [6][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Mike 01Ditucci
> <[7][7]ditucci at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
> You can go here and download the free FAST XFI C-COM 2.0 software:
> [8][8]https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
> If you install it, you can go to:
> HELP:A A A A A A A INDEX
> and get a massive amount of information.
> You can connect the ECU to the internet and use remote turning
> services
> so you don't need to rely on local support to fix issues, and it is
> suppose to be self learning.A There is a Facebook group and the Comp
> Cams FAST forum:
> [9][9]http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
> Still installing, so no personal experience.
> Some people like the Holley system better so you might want to look
> into it.
> Ken
> A A A On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:50:35 PM PST, Jeff Detrich
> <[10][10]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:A
> A Thanks fur responding Julian. My car starts and runs, but not
> great.
> My
> A Electromotive TEC3a doesn't have a workable idle control valve
> circuit
> A which I need with a Holley style throttle body - we've tuned
> around
> A that problem but still not very good, still uses an old PC serial
> A connection, requires experts to program and modify (which don't
> exist
> A here in Dallas), and their support was horrible until I just gave
> up. I
> A needA something that is reliable, supportable and supported here.
> I'm
> A tired of apologizing for it. I do realize that a new system will
> not
> be
> A as flexible and controllable as the TEC3a but I've had it for 13
> years
> A and it's the same old same old. I'm generalizing here but guys
> with
> the
> A new systems just plug it in and it goes.A
> A I know you've recommended FAST in the past and I will look at them
> to
> A see if they are self learning. My recollection of it from 10 years
> ago
> A is that is similar to the TEC3a but I'm not sure if it has been
> redone
> A into a more modern system?
> A Jeff
> A On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Julian Kift
> A <[1][11][11]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A Why? What benefits are you expecting over those the Electromotive
> ECU
> A can't offer?
> A Julian
> A A
> __________________________________________________________________
> A From: DeTomaso
> <[2][12][12]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf
> A of Jeff Detrich <[3][13][13]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> A Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:07 PM
> A To: [4][14][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A <[5][15][15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A Cc: Mike 01Ditucci <[6][16][16]ditucci at att.net>
> A Subject: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
> A A
> A I'm finally going to upgrade to a new FI system. Car goes in to
> our
> A local
> A Pantera guru, Mike Ditucci, next week.
> A I'm currently using an Electromotive system with a single Holley
> style
> A throttle body and sequential injection at each inlet valve. I
> would
> A like to
> A keep that setup but upgrade to new well supported system that runs
> A autonomously, ie, self learning.
> A Would appreciate any recommendations, thanks.
> A Happy Holidays,
> A Jeff Detrich
> A 6559
> References
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> A A You can go here and download the free FAST XFI C-COM 2.0
> software:
> A A [1][25][25]https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
> A A If you install it, you can go to:
> A A HELP:
> A A A A A A A A A A INDEX
> A A and get a massive amount of information.
> A A You can connect the ECU to the internet and use remote turning
> services
> A A so you don't need to rely on local support to fix issues, and it
> is
> A A suppose to be self learning.A There is a Facebook group and the
> Comp
> A A Cams FAST forum:
> A A
>
> [2][26][26]http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235
> /
> A A Still installing, so no personal experience.
> A A Some people like the Holley system better so you might want to
> look
> A A into it.
> A A Ken
> A A On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:50:35 PM PST, Jeff Detrich
> A A <[27][27]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> A A A A Thanks fur responding Julian. My car starts and runs, but
> not
> great.
> A A My
> A A A A Electromotive TEC3a doesn't have a workable idle control
> valve
> A A circuit
> A A A A which I need with a Holley style throttle body - we've tuned
> around
> A A A A that problem but still not very good, still uses an old PC
> serial
> A A A A connection, requires experts to program and modify (which
> don't exist
> A A A A here in Dallas), and their support was horrible until I just
> gave up.
> A A I
> A A A A needA something that is reliable, supportable and supported
> here. I'm
> A A A A tired of apologizing for it. I do realize that a new system
> will not
> A A be
> A A A A as flexible and controllable as the TEC3a but I've had it
> for
> 13
> A A years
> A A A A and it's the same old same old. I'm generalizing here but
> guys
> with
> A A the
> A A A A new systems just plug it in and it goes.A
> A A A A I know you've recommended FAST in the past and I will look
> at
> them to
> A A A A see if they are self learning. My recollection of it from 10
> years
> A A ago
> A A A A is that is similar to the TEC3a but I'm not sure if it has
> been
> A A redone
> A A A A into a more modern system?
> A A A A Jeff
> A A A A On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Julian Kift
> A A A A <[1][3][28][28]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A A A A Why? What benefits are you expecting over those the
> Electromotive ECU
> A A A A can't offer?
> A A A A Julian
> A A A A A A
> __________________________________________________________________
> A A A A From: DeTomaso
> <[2][4][29][29]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> A A behalf
> A A A A of Jeff Detrich <[3][5][30][30]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> A A A A Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:07 PM
> A A A A To: [4][6][31][31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A A A <[5][7][32][32]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A A A Cc: Mike 01Ditucci <[6][8][33][33]ditucci at att.net>
> A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
> A A A A A
> A A A A I'm finally going to upgrade to a new FI system. Car goes in
> to our
> A A A A local
> A A A A Pantera guru, Mike Ditucci, next week.
> A A A A I'm currently using an Electromotive system with a single
> Holley
> A A style
> A A A A throttle body and sequential injection at each inlet valve.
> I
> would
> A A A A like to
> A A A A keep that setup but upgrade to new well supported system
> that
> runs
> A A A A autonomously, ie, self learning.
> A A A A Would appreciate any recommendations, thanks.
> A A A A Happy Holidays,
> A A A A Jeff Detrich
> A A A A 6559
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