[DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Doug
doug351c at gmail.com
Sun Dec 8 01:36:56 EST 2019
Very nice !
From: Mark Charlton [mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 7:39 AM
To: Doug <doug351c at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Hi Doug,
See attached. The horizontal bands cover the ridge that holds the air filter
(upper) and the mounting plate to the stacks (lower). Front of the spoiler
is open.
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com <mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>
On Dec 5, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Doug <doug351c at gmail.com
<mailto:doug351c at gmail.com> > wrote:
Do you have a shot of what it looks like with the deck lid down Mark?
Doug Braun
Blue 73L #5505
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone, and it
works beautifully.
Mark Charlton
mark at markscars.ca <mailto:mark at markscars.ca> <mailto:mark at markscars.ca>
On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com
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Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof or in
the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter housing.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Rich, I have not, but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making an
RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then chop
that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't vented
either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins visually
similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left side,
and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow past
them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s, the
Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the engine
bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were necessary
to reverse the natural airflow.
My 2-c-- J DeRyke
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Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill then
slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a cold
air tube to air cleaner.
I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots in
the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without breaking
them?
thanks Rich
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Very nice !
From: Mark Charlton [mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 7:39 AM
To: Doug <doug351c at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Hi Doug,
See attached. The horizontal bands cover the ridge that holds the air
filter (upper) and the mounting plate to the stacks (lower). Front of
the spoiler is open.
Mark Charlton
[1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
[cid:image001.jpg at 01D5AD4E.D461EF20]
[cid:image002.jpg at 01D5AD4E.D461EF20]
On Dec 5, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Doug <[2]doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have a shot of what it looks like with the deck lid down Mark?
Doug Braun
Blue 73L #5505
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone,
and it
works beautifully.
Mark Charlton
[7]mark at markscars.ca <[8]mailto:mark at markscars.ca>
On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <[9]julian_kift at hotmail.com
<[10]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof
or in
the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter
housing.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Rich, I have not, but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making
an
RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then
chop
that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't
vented
either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins
visually
similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left
side,
and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow
past
them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s,
the
Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the
engine
bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were
necessary
to reverse the natural airflow.
My 2-c-- J DeRyke
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Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill
then
slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a
cold
air tube to air cleaner.
I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots
in
the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without
breaking
them?
thanks Rich
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