[DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

Doug doug351c at gmail.com
Sun Dec 8 01:36:56 EST 2019


Very nice !

 

From: Mark Charlton [mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 7:39 AM
To: Doug <doug351c at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

 

Hi Doug,

 

See attached. The horizontal bands cover the ridge that holds the air filter
(upper) and the mounting plate to the stacks (lower). Front of the spoiler
is open.

 

Mark Charlton

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On Dec 5, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Doug <doug351c at gmail.com
<mailto:doug351c at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Do you have a shot of what it looks like with the deck lid down Mark?

Doug Braun
Blue 73L #5505

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone, and it
works beautifully.

Mark Charlton
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On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com
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 Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
 airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
 ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
 understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
 race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof or in
 the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter housing.

 Julian
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 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

 Rich, I have not,  but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making an
 RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then chop
 that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
 expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't vented
 either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
 I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins visually
 similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
 only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left side,
 and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow past
 them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s, the
 Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the engine
 bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were necessary
 to reverse the natural airflow.
 My 2-c-- J DeRyke



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 Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
 Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
   Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill then
   slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a cold
   air tube to air cleaner.
   I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots in
   the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
   HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without breaking
   them?
   thanks Rich
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   Very nice !


   From: Mark Charlton [mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
   Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 7:39 AM
   To: Doug <doug351c at gmail.com>
   Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea


   Hi Doug,


   See attached. The horizontal bands cover the ridge that holds the air
   filter (upper) and the mounting plate to the stacks (lower). Front of
   the spoiler is open.


   Mark Charlton

   [1]pantera01826 at rogers.com

   [cid:image001.jpg at 01D5AD4E.D461EF20]

   [cid:image002.jpg at 01D5AD4E.D461EF20]

   On Dec 5, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Doug <[2]doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:


   Do you have a shot of what it looks like with the deck lid down Mark?
   Doug Braun
   Blue 73L #5505
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   Of MARK CHARLTON
   Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2019 9:06 AM
   To: Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com; [6]richbhoppe at gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
   That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone,
   and it
   works beautifully.
   Mark Charlton
   [7]mark at markscars.ca <[8]mailto:mark at markscars.ca>

     On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <[9]julian_kift at hotmail.com

   <[10]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:

      Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
      airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
      ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
      understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
      race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof
     or in
      the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter
     housing.
      Julian
        _________________________________________________________________
     _
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      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
      Rich, I have not,  but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making
     an
      RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then
     chop
      that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
      expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't
     vented
      either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
      I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins
     visually
      similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
      only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left
     side,
      and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow
     past
      them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s,
     the
      Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the
     engine
      bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were
     necessary
      to reverse the natural airflow.
      My 2-c-- J DeRyke
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      Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
        Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill
     then
        slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a
     cold
        air tube to air cleaner.
        I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots
     in
        the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
        HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without
     breaking
        them?
        thanks Rich
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