[DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

Mark Charlton pantera01826 at rogers.com
Sat Dec 7 10:39:23 EST 2019


Hi Doug,

See attached. The horizontal bands cover the ridge that holds the air filter (upper) and the mounting plate to the stacks (lower). Front of the spoiler is open.

Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com


> On Dec 5, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Doug <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have a shot of what it looks like with the deck lid down Mark?
> 
> Doug Braun
> Blue 73L #5505
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of MARK CHARLTON
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2019 9:06 AM
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com; richbhoppe at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
> 
> That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone, and it
> works beautifully.
> 
> Mark Charlton
> mark at markscars.ca <mailto:mark at markscars.ca>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com
> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
>>  airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
>>  ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
>>  understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
>>  race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof or in
>>  the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter housing.
>> 
>>  Julian
>>    __________________________________________________________________
>> 
>>  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>>  Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
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>>  To: richbhoppe at gmail.com <mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> <richbhoppe at gmail.com <mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>>;
>>  detomaso at detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>
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>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
>> 
>>  Rich, I have not,  but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making an
>>  RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then chop
>>  that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
>>  expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't vented
>>  either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
>>  I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins visually
>>  similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
>>  only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left side,
>>  and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow past
>>  them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s, the
>>  Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the engine
>>  bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were necessary
>>  to reverse the natural airflow.
>>  My 2-c-- J DeRyke
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com <mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>>
>>  To: detomaso <detomaso at detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>>
>>  Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
>>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
>>    Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill then
>>    slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a cold
>>    air tube to air cleaner.
>>    I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots in
>>    the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
>>    HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without breaking
>>    them?
>>    thanks Rich
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   Hi Doug,

   See attached. The horizontal bands cover the ridge that holds the air
   filter (upper) and the mounting plate to the stacks (lower). Front of
   the spoiler is open.

   Mark Charlton
   [1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
   [cid:8717788D-38F6-4C04-9950-992D58A8EF9E at no-dns-available.example.com]
   [cid:9C481E1B-ADB6-412F-AA67-94231160D39D at no-dns-available.example.com]

   On Dec 5, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Doug <[2]doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:

   Do you have a shot of what it looks like with the deck lid down Mark?
   Doug Braun
   Blue 73L #5505
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of MARK CHARLTON
   Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2019 9:06 AM
   To: Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com; [6]richbhoppe at gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
   That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone,
   and it
   works beautifully.
   Mark Charlton
   [7]mark at markscars.ca <[8]mailto:mark at markscars.ca>

     On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <[9]julian_kift at hotmail.com

   <[10]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:

      Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
      airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
      ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
      understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
      race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof
     or in
      the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter
     housing.
      Julian
        _________________________________________________________________
     _
      From: DeTomaso <[11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com

   <[12]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of

      Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

   <[14]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>

      Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 2:03 PM
      To: [15]richbhoppe at gmail.com <[16]mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>

   <[17]richbhoppe at gmail.com <[18]mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>>;

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   <[21]detomaso at detomasolist.com <[22]mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>>

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
      Rich, I have not,  but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making
     an
      RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then
     chop
      that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
      expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't
     vented
      either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
      I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins
     visually
      similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
      only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left
     side,
      and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow
     past
      them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s,
     the
      Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the
     engine
      bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were
     necessary
      to reverse the natural airflow.
      My 2-c-- J DeRyke
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Rich Hoppe <[23]richbhoppe at gmail.com
     <[24]mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>>
      To: detomaso <[25]detomaso at detomasolist.com

   <[26]mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>>

      Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
        Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill
     then
        slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a
     cold
        air tube to air cleaner.
        I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots
     in
        the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
        HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without
     breaking
        them?
        thanks Rich
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