[DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
MARK CHARLTON
pantera01826 at rogers.com
Thu Dec 5 12:05:48 EST 2019
That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone, and it works beautifully.
Mark Charlton
mark at markscars.ca <mailto:mark at markscars.ca>
> On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
> airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
> ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
> understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
> race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof or in
> the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter housing.
>
> Julian
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
>
> Rich, I have not, but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making an
> RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then chop
> that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
> expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't vented
> either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
> I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins visually
> similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
> only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left side,
> and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow past
> them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s, the
> Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the engine
> bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were necessary
> to reverse the natural airflow.
> My 2-c-- J DeRyke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com <mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com>>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
> Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill then
> slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a cold
> air tube to air cleaner.
> I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots in
> the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
> HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without breaking
> them?
> thanks Rich
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That roof-to-enclosed airbox is exactly what I have on my GR4 clone,
and it works beautifully.
Mark Charlton
[1]mark at markscars.ca
[cid:ABD13E6B-2D27-46F1-A412-EB3C8A2836B4 at no-dns-available.example.com]
On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
Folks whom have removed the rear quarter window also note outward
airflow from the engine bay. A sealed unit air filter with elephant
ears has been used succesfuly in the past for cold air intake as I
understand. Personally I think the best way to go for cold air on a
race car would be a naca duct either at the rear edge of the roof or
in
the rear quarter panel, then ducted to an enclosed air filter
housing.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 2:03 PM
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[7]detomaso at detomasolist.com <[8]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Rich, I have not, but if you want to pursue this, I suggest making
an
RTV mold of your gill, making a fiberglas/Bondo duplicate, then chop
that piece up to see if it's a good idea. OEM gills are quite
expensive. Miuras had the same type of gills and those weren't vented
either. You can borrow my mold if you'd like to try.
I suspect you'll wind up fabricating a whole new set of fins visually
similar to gills, to get enough structural strength. Note this will
only practically work for pre-Ls without a gas door in the left side,
and that the gill is about 2" inboard of any significant air flow
past
them so they're likely to still be decorative only. In the '80s, the
Swedes found that small scoops at that point flowed OUT of the engine
bay at speeds below about 120 mph. Elephant- ear scoops were
necessary
to reverse the natural airflow.
My 2-c-- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Hoppe <[9]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
To: detomaso <[10]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 4, 2019 1:42 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill
then
slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a
cold
air tube to air cleaner.
I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots
in
the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without
breaking
them?
thanks Rich
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