[DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

[George B]

I have read about someone doing differential pressure testing a while back.  They reported out a small negative pressure around the intake manifold area.  Also, you can clearly see debris travel upwards in the review mirror when the screen is off.  Air traveling upward around the headers is likely at least somewhat warmer that ambient.

If I come across that data I will send it out.

George

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:57 PM
To: 'P - Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

"when you can measure what
you are speaking about, .
you know something about it;
but when you cannot measure it, .
your knowledge is of a meagre
and unsatisfactory kind." Lord Kelvin 1883

in other words, To Measure is to Know.

I have a low pressure digital manometer that I could loan if someone wants
to measure.   The tubing and how to route to the measured points would be
the challenge.   Having one tube's end taped to the gill and the other on
top of the air cleaner would let you know the delta Pressure
https://www.pyleusa.com/digital-manometer-with-11-units-of-measure.html

(I don't have a running Pantera to measure myself)



-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of George B
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 19:14 PM
To: detomaso at detomasolist.com; Ken Green
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

All,

I like that idea and was thinking about using a set of original grills and
slotting out the underside of the fins.  If you slotted the length of each
fin it should be more than enough CFM.  I see where a lot of people talk
about needing those big elephant ears to get into the airflow, but when you
look at pictures of string taped to the grills it look laminar.  Don't think
you would get a ton of pressure, but should be something far better than the
vacuum and heat of the original air filter position.  That and it would look
more OEM from the outside of the car...I like sleepers...

Regards,
George

    On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:42:57 PM PST, Rich Hoppe
<richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:

   Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill then
  slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a cold
  air tube to air cleaner.
  I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots in
  the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
  HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without breaking
  them?
  thanks Rich

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   I have read about someone doing differential pressure testing a while
   back.  They reported out a small negative pressure around the intake
   manifold area.  Also, you can clearly see debris travel upwards in the
   review mirror when the screen is off.  Air traveling upward around the
   headers is likely at least somewhat warmer that ambient.

   If I come across that data I will send it out.

   George
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:57 PM
   To: 'P - Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea

   "when you can measure what
   you are speaking about, .
   you know something about it;
   but when you cannot measure it, .
   your knowledge is of a meagre
   and unsatisfactory kind." Lord Kelvin 1883
   in other words, To Measure is to Know.
   I have a low pressure digital manometer that I could loan if someone
   wants
   to measure.   The tubing and how to route to the measured points would
   be
   the challenge.   Having one tube's end taped to the gill and the other
   on
   top of the air cleaner would let you know the delta Pressure
   [1]https://www.pyleusa.com/digital-manometer-with-11-units-of-measure.h
   tml
   (I don't have a running Pantera to measure myself)
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of George B
   Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 19:14 PM
   To: detomaso at detomasolist.com; Ken Green
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cold air inlet idea
   All,
   I like that idea and was thinking about using a set of original grills
   and
   slotting out the underside of the fins.  If you slotted the length of
   each
   fin it should be more than enough CFM.  I see where a lot of people
   talk
   about needing those big elephant ears to get into the airflow, but when
   you
   look at pictures of string taped to the grills it look laminar.  Don't
   think
   you would get a ton of pressure, but should be something far better
   than the
   vacuum and heat of the original air filter position.  That and it would
   look
   more OEM from the outside of the car...I like sleepers...
   Regards,
   George
       On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 1:42:57 PM PST, Rich Hoppe
   <richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:
      Just curious if anyone has tried to cut slots in the side grill then
     slots in body behind Grill then hole in inner panel to install a cold
     air tube to air cleaner.
     I know kind of an out of the box idea but I don't think the slots in
     the Grill would affect the look of the car as much as the scoops.
     HasA anyone been successful cutting the side Grills without breaking
     them?
     thanks Rich
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