[DeTomaso] NPC Re: Wondering how California banning fosil fuel in 27 years will impact the long term value of our cars?

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Thu Sep 20 14:00:56 EDT 2018


Re: Moore's Law - after just 15 years, chips will be 1,000 times more
powerful

27 years is a long time. Who knows what technology will be like by then.
Think about it - oops, that's not really possible.

Jeff - just sayin! 🤔
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Also, cost of maintenance/year.   Building would be just a one-time cost.
>
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> On 9/19/18, 10:10 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton" <
> detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of asajay at asajay.com>
> wrote:
>
>     Just wondering how much fossil fuel is used in construction of wind
>     generators and solar stations.
>     Asa  Jay
>
>     Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>     Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
>     ******************************
>     http://w7tsc.org
>     http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>     On 9/17/2018 19:10, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>     > Ken,
>     >
>     > Yes, Governor Moonbeam signed a bill that bans the use of fossil
> fuels for generating electricity in 27 years. It has nothing to do with
> gasoline in our cars, but it wouldn’t be a surprise of at some point
> legislation banning automotive fuels gained support in some sectors.
>     >
>     > However, this bill will likely make home electricity substantially
> more expensive, as we will likely need to import power from adjacent states
> (produced by fossil fuels). Besides making our home electricity bills
> higher, it will also negate some if not all of the financial advantage of
> an electric car.
>     >
>     > Hilariously, idiots still think of electric cars as ‘zero emissions
> vehicles’ instead of what they really are, which is ‘remote emissions
> vehicles’.   They smugly drive around congratulating themselves for being
> ‘green’, even as fossil fuels are being burned hundred of miles away to
> generate electricity which is then ‘piped’ to their bubble of denial.
>     >
>     > Fortunately, this bill’s effective date is far in the future, and
> Governor Moonbeam’s final term will come to an end soon and he will be
> retired onto the scrap heap of history.  However his crazy ideals could
> well live on, as the leading candidate for governor is Gavin Newsom, an
> avowed socialist who never saw a tax he didn’t like, or a freedom that he
> didn’t hate.  The ongoing decline of California would be assured if he was
> to win, but there is always a chance that reason will carry the day, and
> idiotic proposals such as this (and the bullet train to nowhere, and giant
> tunnels to devastate the northern California delta to pipe water to
> Hollywood swimming pools) will get overturned.
>     >
>     > We can only hope.....
>     >
>     > Mike
>     >
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPad
>     >
>     >> On Sep 17, 2018, at 18:49, Ken Green via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>   Sounds like Brown signed the bill today?
>     >>   A friend who works for an electric company said rates will go way
> up.
>     >>   Ken
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   Re: Moore's Law - after just 15 years, chips will be 1,000 times more
   powerful
   27 years is a long time. Who knows what technology will be like by
   then. Think about it - oops, that's not really possible.
   Jeff - just sayin!A d-CUR
   6559

   On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
   <[1]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

     Also, cost of maintenance/year.A  A Building would be just a
     one-time cost.
     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
     A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     Terry W. Himes
     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     Dawn Spacecraft Team
     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     Phone: (818) 393-6261
     Cell:A  A  A (818) 653-8213
     [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
     d--od-,

   A
   i>>?On 9/19/18, 10:10 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton"
   <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [4]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
   A  A  Just wondering how much fossil fuel is used in construction of
   wind
   A  A  generators and solar stations.
   A  A  AsaA  Jay
   A  A  Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   A  A  Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
   A  A  ******************************A  A  A
   A  A  [5]http://w7tsc.org
   A  A  [6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   A  A  On 9/17/2018 19:10, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
   A  A  > Ken,
   A  A  >
   A  A  > Yes, Governor Moonbeam signed a bill that bans the use of
   fossil fuels for generating electricity in 27 years. It has nothing to
   do with gasoline in our cars, but it wouldnat be a surprise of at some
   point legislation banning automotive fuels gained support in some
   sectors.
   A  A  >
   A  A  > However, this bill will likely make home electricity
   substantially more expensive, as we will likely need to import power
   from adjacent states (produced by fossil fuels). Besides making our
   home electricity bills higher, it will also negate some if not all of
   the financial advantage of an electric car.
   A  A  >
   A  A  > Hilariously, idiots still think of electric cars as azero
   emissions vehiclesa instead of what they really are, which is aremote
   emissions vehiclesa.A  A They smugly drive around congratulating
   themselves for being agreena, even as fossil fuels are being burned
   hundred of miles away to generate electricity which is then apipeda to
   their bubble of denial.
   A  A  >
   A  A  > Fortunately, this billas effective date is far in the future,
   and Governor Moonbeamas final term will come to an end soon and he will
   be retired onto the scrap heap of history.A  However his crazy ideals
   could well live on, as the leading candidate for governor is Gavin
   Newsom, an avowed socialist who never saw a tax he didnat like, or a
   freedom that he didnat hate.A  The ongoing decline of California would
   be assured if he was to win, but there is always a chance that reason
   will carry the day, and idiotic proposals such as this (and the bullet
   train to nowhere, and giant tunnels to devastate the northern
   California delta to pipe water to Hollywood swimming pools) will get
   overturned.
   A  A  >
   A  A  > We can only hope.....
   A  A  >
   A  A  > Mike
   A  A  >
   A  A  >
   A  A  > Sent from my iPad
   A  A  >
   A  A  >> On Sep 17, 2018, at 18:49, Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   A  A  >>
   A  A  >>A  A Sounds like Brown signed the bill today?
   A  A  >>A  A A friend who works for an electric company said rates will
   go way up.
   A  A  >>A  A Ken
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