[DeTomaso] Wondering how California banning fosil fuel in 27 years will impact the long term value of our cars?

Larry Stock larrys at panteraparts.com
Wed Sep 19 12:04:31 EDT 2018


I live next to the worlds largest siphon line, from Hobart Reservoir down
the Eastern Sierra Nevada¹s across Washoe Valley up to Virginia City
(close to 20 miles)

The water system used in Storey County dates back to the 1870s. The first
major water supply project was the development of a transmission
line--which was constructed in 1873--and delivered water from Hobart
Reservoir to Virginia City. This transmission line, although it has
received numerous updates and replacements, remains the only source of
water for Storey County to this day.
The water used in Storey County has been transmitted west to east, from
Hobart Dam in the Sierra Nevada mountains to Lakeview Summit, through the
Five-Mile Reservoir to Virginia City.



Snopes That fact
Larry Stock


On 9/19/18, 8:36 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
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detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>   You can't siphon over about 32 feet, so can't siphon over a hill, but
>   you can use a pump on one side and a generator on the opposite side.
>     __________________________________________________________________
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>   From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>   To: Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Ken Green
>   <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:56 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wondering how California banning fosil fuel in
>   27 years will impact the long term value of our cars?
>     Let's just fill the Arizona, California, and Nevada deserts with
>   pumped
>     in Pacific Ocean water to lower the oceans.A  Think of all the jobs
>     created by the salt water fishing tourism industry.A  If the
>   elevation
>     is lower than the ocean, it can even be done like a siphon hose :)
>     Rob DuMoulin
>     904.476.8744
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>     On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
>     <[4][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>       Oh like this program???
>       Three years ago, the drought-stricken city of Los Angeles covered
>       the surface of the LA Basin with 96 million shade-providing
>   floating
>       balls, in order to keep the water beneath from evaporating. Now, an
>       international study suggests that the making of the plastic balls
>       may have used up more water than they saved.
>       The "shade balls" were left in place on the reservoir for
>       approximately one and a half years, during the latter part of the
>       2011 - 2017 California drought. According to the study, they kept
>   an
>       estimated 1.7 million cubic meters (60 million cubic feet) of water
>       from evaporating. Unfortunately, however, it is also estimated that
>       production of the balls used up 2.9 million cubic meters of water
>       (102 million cubic feet). This happened at locations where the oil
>       and natural gas used to produce the plastic were refined, and where
>       the electricity necessary for production was generated.
>       In order for the shade balls to save as much water as was used in
>       manufacturing them, they would reportedly have to be left on the
>       reservoir for at least two and a half years a and that's only if
>       drought conditions persisted for the entire period.
>       Additionally, the study points out that the manufacturing process
>       would have had other negative environmental costs, such as the
>       generation of carbon emissions and water pollution.
>       "We are very good at quick technological fixes, but we often
>       overlook the long-term and secondary impacts of our solutions,"
>   says
>       study co-author Dr. Kaveh Madani, from Imperial College London.
>       "This is how the engineering community has been solving problems;
>       solving one problem somewhere and creating a new problem elsewhere
>       a| We are not suggesting that shade balls are bad and must not be
>       used. We are just highlighting the fact that the environmental cost
>       of shade balls must be considered together with their benefits."
>       The findings of the study, which also included scientists from MIT
>       in the US and the University of Twente in the Netherlands, were
>       recently published in the journal Nature Sustainability.
>       Source: Imperial College London
>       Larry (gots balls) - Cleveland
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: DeTomaso <[5][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
>       Behalf Of Curt Hall
>       Sent: September 18, 2018 12:25 AM
>       To: Ken Green <[6][5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; List DeTomaso Forum
>       <[7][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wondering how California banning fosil fuel
>       in 27 years will impact the long term value of our cars?
>       MoonBeam and his Cronies are Pushing more and more Businesses and
>       Tax Paying Citizens Out of this State! Looking at Out of State
>       Property Myself! These California Turds in Office need to be
>       Flushed!
>       A  A  On Monday, September 17, 2018 6:49 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>       <[8][7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>       A  A Sounds like Brown signed the bill today?
>       A  A friend who works for an electric company said rates will go
>   way
>       up.
>       A  Ken
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