[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8
cengles at cox.net
cengles at cox.net
Mon Sep 10 17:33:56 EDT 2018
Dear Owen, Bud, Mark, Asa and Steve,
Thanks for responding. I now have a good list of brake
bleeding tricks and options.
I am using speed bleeders.
OK. Back to the garage.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Owen Cooke wrote:
> remember there re two bleed screws on front calipers
>
> also make sure you dont let fluid drop too low in resevoir when
> bleeding
>
> owen
>
>
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>> 3. Re: Techno Question: Pantera Brake Bleeding tips (Mark
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 20:37:50 -0500
>> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>> To: "'Detomaso'" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Pantera Brake Bleeding tips
>> Message-ID: <005e01d448a6$e2b65c40$a82314c0$@cox.net>
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>> Dear Forum,
>>
>>
>>
>> My stock Girling brakes suffered a seized
>> caliper. I
>> re-built the brakes with the help of Asa Jay's techno brake article
>> and Mike
>> Dailey's Pantera Place. I have installed the brakes and spent half
>> the
>> weekend and over four quarts of brake fluid trying to get the air
>> out. I
>> still have a softish pedal.
>>
>>
>> I seem to recall some trick about tapping the
>> steel
>> brake lines to help the air find its way out. Are there any tips to
>> hasten
>> the process? I did go and buy two more quarts. Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>> Engles
>>
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Dear Forum,
>>
>>
>>
>> My stock Girling brakes suffered a seized
>> caliper. I re-built the brakes with the help of Asa Jay's techno
>> brake
>> article and Mike Dailey's Pantera Place. I have installed the
>> brakes
>> and spent half the weekend and over four quarts of brake fluid
>> trying
>> to get the air out. I still have a softish pedal.
>>
>>
>> I seem to recall some trick about tapping
>> the
>> steel brake lines to help the air find its way out. Are there
>> any tips
>> to hasten the process? I did go and buy two more quarts. Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>> Engles
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 19:58:43 -0700
>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Pantera Brake Bleeding tips
>> Message-ID: <9da233c1-32d5-7cde-da62-617b9995878d at asajay.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>
>> Hi Chuck,
>> Are you using a pressure bleeder?
>> Have you made sure all fittings are good and snug so air isn't
>> getting
>> in anywhere?
>> Have you mounted the correct caliper on the correct side?
>> Are you bleeding all four wheels? (one at a time of course)
>> Are you still getting bubbles in the fluid, out at the caliper?
>>
>> Four quarts is a lot to go through.? If you are still getting air at
>> the
>> caliper when you bleed, then it's gotta be getting in somewhere.? If
>> you
>> aren't getting bubbles, then you might be done, despite the fact your
>> pedal feels softer.? I might be you're used to fighting that seized
>> caliper.? ??
>>
>> Asa? Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
>> ******************************
>> http://w7tsc.org
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>> On 9/9/2018 18:37, Charles Engles wrote:
>>> Dear Forum,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My stock Girling brakes suffered a seized
>>> caliper. I re-built the brakes with the help of Asa Jay's
>>> techno brake
>>> article and Mike Dailey's Pantera Place. I have installed the
>>> brakes
>>> and spent half the weekend and over four quarts of brake fluid
>>> trying
>>> to get the air out. I still have a softish pedal.
>>>
>>>
>>> I seem to recall some trick about tapping
>>> the
>>> steel brake lines to help the air find its way out. Are there
>>> any tips
>>> to hasten the process? I did go and buy two more quarts.
>>> Sigh.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>>> Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Hi Chuck,
>> Are you using a pressure bleeder?
>> Have you made sure all fittings are good and snug so air isn't
>> getting
>> in anywhere?
>> Have you mounted the correct caliper on the correct side?
>> Are you bleeding all four wheels? (one at a time of course)
>> Are you still getting bubbles in the fluid, out at the caliper?
>> Four quarts is a lot to go through. If you are still getting air
>> at
>> the caliper when you bleed, then it's gotta be getting in
>> somewhere.
>> If you aren't getting bubbles, then you might be done, despite
>> the fact
>> your pedal feels softer. I might be you're used to fighting that
>> seized caliper. ??
>> Asa Jay
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
>> ******************************
>> [1]http://w7tsc.org
>> [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>> On 9/9/2018 18:37, Charles Engles wrote:
>>
>> Dear Forum,
>>
>>
>>
>> My stock Girling brakes suffered a seized
>> caliper. I re-built the brakes with the help of Asa Jay's techno
>> brake
>> article and Mike Dailey's Pantera Place. I have installed the
>> brakes
>> and spent half the weekend and over four quarts of brake fluid
>> trying
>> to get the air out. I still have a softish pedal.
>>
>>
>> I seem to recall some trick about tapping
>> the
>> steel brake lines to help the air find its way out. Are there
>> any tips
>> to hasten the process? I did go and buy two more quarts. Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>> Engles
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 03:35:22 +0000
>> From: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
>> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>, 'Detomaso'
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Pantera Brake Bleeding tips
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>> I had the same problem for a couple years. Even after using a power
>> bleeder, it stiil remained the same. I finally decided to fix the
>> problem once and for all. Using the usual sequence, passenger rear,
>> drivers rear, passenger front, drivers front
>> To do this I removed each caliper place a block of wood between the
>> pads tapped them with a dead blow while turning them in all
>> directions then upright and bleed. Got lots of air pockets that would
>> not let go otherwise . Tap all the lines as you move along from
>> caliper to caliper.
>> Now they'll put you through the windshield.
>> Now with no air in the system the power bleeder works great when I
>> need to change and flush old fluid to new. I use a suction device to
>> empty the reservoir fill with new fluid and let the power bleeder do
>> the rest following the above sequence .
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Date: 9/9/18 18:37 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: 'Detomaso' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Pantera Brake Bleeding tips
>>
>> Dear Forum,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My stock Girling brakes suffered a seized
>> caliper. I
>> re-built the brakes with the help of Asa Jay's techno brake article
>> and Mike
>> Dailey's Pantera Place. I have installed the brakes and spent half
>> the
>> weekend and over four quarts of brake fluid trying to get the air
>> out. I
>> still have a softish pedal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to recall some trick about tapping the
>> steel
>> brake lines to help the air find its way out. Are there any tips to
>> hasten
>> the process? I did go and buy two more quarts. Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>> Engles
>>
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> I had the same problem for a couple years. Even after using a
>> power
>> bleeder, it stiil remained the same. I finally decided to fix the
>> problem once and for all. Using the usual sequence, passenger
>> rear,
>> drivers rear, passenger front, drivers front
>> To do this I removed each caliper place a block of wood between
>> the
>> pads tapped them with a dead blow while turning them in all
>> directions
>> then upright and bleed. Got lots of air pockets that would not
>> let go
>> otherwise . Tap all the lines as you move along from caliper to
>> caliper.
>> Now they'll put you through the windshield.
>> Now with no air in the system the power bleeder works great when
>> I need
>> to change and flush old fluid to new. I use a suction device to
>> empty
>> the reservoir fill with new fluid and let the power bleeder do
>> the rest
>> following the above sequence .
>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S(R) 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Date: 9/9/18 18:37 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: 'Detomaso' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Pantera Brake Bleeding tips
>>
>> Dear Forum,
>>
>>
>> My stock Girling brakes suffered a seized
>> caliper. I
>> re-built the brakes with the help of Asa Jay's techno brake
>> article and
>> Mike
>> Dailey's Pantera Place. I have installed the brakes and spent
>> half
>> the
>> weekend and over four quarts of brake fluid trying to get the air
>> out. I
>> still have a softish pedal.
>>
>> I seem to recall some trick about tapping
>> the
>> steel
>> brake lines to help the air find its way out. Are there any tips
>> to
>> hasten
>> the process? I did go and buy two more quarts. Sigh.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>> Engles
>>
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