[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 170, Issue 26

tom ware ace595 at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 1 11:13:28 EDT 2018


Could also be a push rod ? Riding against the head if it’s bent a little?

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>   1. test (Rich Hoppe)
>   2. What is this engine noise? (sean mundy)
>   3. Re: What is this engine noise? (L GRAY)
>   4. Re: What is this engine noise? (sean mundy)
>   5. Re: What is this engine noise? (Sean Korb)
>   6. Re: What is this engine noise? (sean mundy)
>   7. mAD dAWG & SS? (Dan Courtney)
>   8. Re: What is this engine noise? (Asa Jay Laughton)
>   9. Fwd: my car on the grand tour (Mike Drew)
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> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:43:12 -0700
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?
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> I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming from.  I?ve checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
> I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is bad?
> 
> https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
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>   I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>   from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>   I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>   bad?
>   [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
> 
> References
> 
>   1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 23:49:24 +0000
> From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> To: sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?
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> What valve covers are you using? I?ve experienced the cast aluminum ?DeTomaso? valve covers, at times I?d find that the internal baffle that is below the oil filler hole in the valve cover sometimes has interference issues with some on the roller rocker arms rubbing on it as the rocker arm rotates ........
>    A real quick thing to dismiss or prove. Pull the valve cover (left is easiest) to check and look for signs of rubbing on the sides of the baffle plate(s).
> 
>      Best regards,
>           Leslie A. Gray
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:36 PM, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>  from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>  I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>>  bad?
>>  [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
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> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:06:58 +0000
> From: sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com>
> To: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?
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> Those oil deflectors are removed on my valve covers.  I had both covers off when I was checking the rockers but I didn't think to look real hard at the underside of the valve covers.  The passenger side one is a pain the butt to get off.
> In case anyone doesn't know that already ?
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> From: L GRAY<mailto:tipo874a at msn.com>
> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?August? ?30?, ?2018 ?4?:?49? ?PM
> To: sean mundy<mailto:seanmundy at hotmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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> What valve covers are you using? I?ve experienced the cast aluminum ?DeTomaso? valve covers, at times I?d find that the internal baffle that is below the oil filler hole in the valve cover sometimes has interference issues with some on the roller rocker arms rubbing on it as the rocker arm rotates ........
>    A real quick thing to dismiss or prove. Pull the valve cover (left is easiest) to check and look for signs of rubbing on the sides of the baffle plate(s).
> 
>      Best regards,
>           Leslie A. Gray
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:36 PM, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>  from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>  I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>>  bad?
>>  [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
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>   Those oil deflectors are removed on my valve covers.  I had both covers
>   off when I was checking the rockers but I didn't think to look real
>   hard at the underside of the valve covers.  The passenger side one is a
>   pain the butt to get off.
>   In case anyone doesn't know that already
>   From: [1]L GRAY
>   Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:49 PM
>   To: [2]sean mundy
>   Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   What valve covers are you using? I've experienced the cast aluminum
>   "DeTomaso" valve covers, at times I'd find that the internal baffle
>   that is below the oil filler hole in the valve cover sometimes has
>   interference issues with some on the roller rocker arms rubbing on it
>   as the rocker arm rotates ........
>       A real quick thing to dismiss or prove. Pull the valve cover (left
>   is easiest) to check and look for signs of rubbing on the sides of the
>   baffle plate(s).
>         Best regards,
>              Leslie A. Gray
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:36 PM, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
>> 
>>  I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>  from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>  I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of
>   them is
>>  bad?
>>  [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 20:55:43 -0400
> From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> To: sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?
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> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was like
> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
> whistling noise.  Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
> venturis.  It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor actually
> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
> quell it.  A smoke generator could show any leaks.  Is the motor hot
> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
> 
> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
> benign-ish.  Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
> is.
> 
>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>   I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>   from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>   I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>>   bad?
>>   [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 01:06:53 +0000
> From: sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com>
> To: "spkorb at gmail.com" <spkorb at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>    <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?
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> At first I noticed it after it was hot.  I got home and it was not making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it seemed that might be where it was coming from.  Got a lot of good ideas of other things to check now.  Thank you  :)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was like
>> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
>> whistling noise.  Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
>> venturis.  It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor actually
>> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
>> quell it.  A smoke generator could show any leaks.  Is the motor hot
>> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
>> 
>> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
>> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
>> benign-ish.  Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
>> is.
>> 
>>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>  I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>>  from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>>  I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>>>  bad?
>>>  [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>>  1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
>> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:01:07 -0700
> From: "Dan Courtney" <dan at excaliburre.com>
> To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] mAD dAWG & SS?
> Message-ID: <36B33F73E7594FE8B1C44EE7E9266CC7 at HPLaptop>
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> What?s this I heard about in Monterey with mAD pUPPY  rounding some SS OG?s for his (supposedly) last hurrah?
> 
> Dan Courtney
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>   Whatas this I heard about in Monterey with mAD pUPPY  rounding some SS
>   OGas for his (supposedly) last hurrah?
> 
>   Dan Courtney
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 22:03:23 -0700
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?
> Message-ID: <51ef8a00-ff1f-4425-ce27-03e4f53ec8f7 at asajay.com>
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> 
> Stranger things...
> 
> Water pump
> Alternator
> A/C compressor
> 
> My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod or
> main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing in
> the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing.? Then I thought about the list above.
> 
> Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had been
> removed.? Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake, but
> that would typically be rhythmic.
> 
> Be sure to let us know what you find.
> Asa? Jay
> 
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
> ******************************     
> http://w7tsc.org
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> 
>> On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote:
>> At first I noticed it after it was hot.  I got home and it was not making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it seemed that might be where it was coming from.  Got a lot of good ideas of other things to check now.  Thank you  :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was like
>>> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
>>> whistling noise.  Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
>>> venturis.  It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor actually
>>> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
>>> quell it.  A smoke generator could show any leaks.  Is the motor hot
>>> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
>>> 
>>> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
>>> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
>>> benign-ish.  Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
>>> is.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>>>  from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>>>  I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>>>>  bad?
>>>>  [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>> 
>>>> References
>>>> 
>>>>  1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
>>> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:52:48 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: De Tomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: my car on the grand tour
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> Hi guys,
> 
> Word from the Alps...
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Geoff Peters
>> Date: August 31, 2018 at 06:34:00 PDT
>> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Subject: my car on the grand tour
>> 
>> 
>> Apparently its gone viral! Apparently voted on facebook ?the sexist car ever?!
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1j3S_kjcKw
>> 
>> Shame you are not on whatsapp so much I could send you! Jonny has had a blast over there and has taken loads of film and photos
>> 
>> They have spent 4 long 16h days, drag starting, burnouts, drifting, thundering up and down mountain passes and have fallen in love with the car. They kept expecting it to break as the 40 people production team said the Italian cars always break! Well this old girl whilst getting bloody hot did not miss a beat!
>> 
>> Any way the clutch is now bringing to slip (amazing it has lasted thus far given all the miles it had done before this trip). Can you buy me a replacement complete driven and pressure plate clutch the same McCleod as you got for me before (very light pedal pressure)? I will let you know where to send it.
>> 
>> They had agreed to buy new tires, gearbox rebuild, etc etc!
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Geoff
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>   Hi guys,
> 
>   Word from the Alps...
> 
>   Mike
>   Begin forwarded message:
> 
>   From: Geoff Peters
>   Date: August 31, 2018 at 06:34:00 PDT
>   To: Mike Drew <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>   Subject: my car on the grand tour
> 
>   Apparently its gone viral! Apparently voted on facebook `the sexist car
>   ever'!
> 
> 
>   [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1j3S_kjcKw
> 
> 
>   Shame you are not on whatsapp so much I could send you! Jonny has had a
>   blast over there and has taken loads of film and photos
> 
> 
>   They have spent 4 long 16h days, drag starting, burnouts, drifting,
>   thundering up and down mountain passes and have fallen in love with the
>   car. They kept expecting it to break as the 40 people production team
>   said the Italian cars always break! Well this old girl whilst getting
>   bloody hot did not miss a beat!
> 
> 
>   Any way the clutch is now bringing to slip (amazing it has lasted thus
>   far given all the miles it had done before this trip). Can you buy me a
>   replacement complete driven and pressure plate clutch the same McCleod
>   as you got for me before (very light pedal pressure)? I will let you
>   know where to send it.
> 
> 
>   They had agreed to buy new tires, gearbox rebuild, etc etc!
> 
> 
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Geoff
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>   2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1j3S_kjcKw
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