[DeTomaso] FW: Radiator
Pantdino
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Mon Oct 29 22:00:39 EDT 2018
In Chemistry class, distillation is where you boil something and then cool the resultant gas / vapor to turn it back into a liquid. So distilled water should be H2O molecules and not much else, as the calcium and whatever will stay behind
I believe DI water is created by sending it thru some kind of filter or process that takes out the ions, as the name implies. Don't know much more beyond that
Jim
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To: DeTomaso <DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 29, 2018 1:17 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Radiator
Is DI (De Ionized) the same as Distilled water?
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 15:39 PM
To: larrys at panteraparts.com; steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Agree with Larry. In the lab, DI water is acidic enough that we had to use a stainless tank and lines. Check with your pH paper or you're just guessing!
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From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Steve <steve at snclocks.com>; detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 8:07
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Actually Softened Tap water is best, then tap water, but that varies quite a bit. Actually The worst thing you can use is DI water which promotes electrolysis in your cooling system.
On 10/29/18, 7:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of steve at snclocks.com>
wrote:
>Wow - does anyone use tap water in their radiators??? DI water is less
>than a dollar a gallon!
>
>Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>Behalf Of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
>To: djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; audionut at hushmail.com
>Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water
>in your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of
>the EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a
>swimming pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in
>some tap water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water
>for your cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map
>and two houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles
>apart. If a couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST
>use an anti-acid additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really
>low, a sacrificial anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have
>been dealing with this for 55 years and have everything in stock.
>
>Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is
>less than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the
>black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip
>soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when tightening
>things into aluminum.
>
>Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using
>since the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days
>of the split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this
>Forum have described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range,
>put one lead in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If
>you see more than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast
>your alloy parts are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too
>coarse in its ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must.
>Mine cost $250 in
>1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will not work. Its
>like trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
>
>Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire
>life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other
>things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>To: audionut <audionut at hushmail.com>
>CC: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
> Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: [1]audionut at hushmail.com
> Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
> To: [2]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
> Hi Dave--
> I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650). 10 years ago, with simple
> tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
> sucker fans.
> I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
> it-- the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it
>ever
> leaked.
> I change coolant every 2 years.
> Best of luck!
> John
> 73L #5909
> Sent using Hushmail
> On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
>
> I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
> suggestions on a replacement.
> Thanks,Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
>References
>
> 1. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 2. mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
> 3. mailto:%20djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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In Chemistry class, distillation is where you boil something and then
cool the resultant gas / vapor to turn it back into a liquid. So
distilled water should be H2O molecules and not much else, as the
calcium and whatever will stay behind
I believe DI water is created by sending it thru some kind of filter or
process that takes out the ions, as the name implies. Don't know much
more beyond that
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
To: DeTomaso <DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 29, 2018 1:17 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Radiator
Is DI (De Ionized) the same as Distilled water?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf Of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 15:39 PM
To: [2]larrys at panteraparts.com; [3]steve at snclocks.com;
[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Agree with Larry. In the lab, DI water is acidic enough that we had to
use a stainless tank and lines. Check with your pH paper or you're just
guessing!
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Stock <[5]larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Steve <[6]steve at snclocks.com>; detomaso
<[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 8:07
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Actually Softened Tap water is best, then tap water, but that varies
quite a bit. Actually The worst thing you can use is DI water which
promotes electrolysis in your cooling system.
On 10/29/18, 7:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve"
<detomaso-[8]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[9]steve at snclocks.com>
wrote:
>Wow - does anyone use tap water in their radiators??? DI water is less
>than a dollar a gallon!
>
>Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [[10]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On
>Behalf Of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
>To: [11]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; [12]audionut at hushmail.com
>Cc: [13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water
>in your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of
>the EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a
>swimming pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in
>some tap water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water
>for your cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map
>and two houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles
>apart. If a couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST
>use an anti-acid additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really
>low, a sacrificial anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have
>been dealing with this for 55 years and have everything in stock.
>
>Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is
>less than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the
>black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip
>soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when
tightening
>things into aluminum.
>
>Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using
>since the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the
days
>of the split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this
>Forum have described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage
range,
>put one lead in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If
>you see more than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast
>your alloy parts are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is
too
>coarse in its ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must.
>Mine cost $250 in
>1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will not work. Its
>like trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
>
>Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts
tire
>life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other
>things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [14]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
<[15]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>To: audionut <[16]audionut at hushmail.com>
>CC: [17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
> Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: [1][19]audionut at hushmail.com
> Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
> To: [2][20]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
> Hi Dave--
> I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650). 10 years ago, with simple
> tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
> sucker fans.
> I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
> it-- the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it
>ever
> leaked.
> I change coolant every 2 years.
> Best of luck!
> John
> 73L #5909
> Sent using Hushmail
> On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] [21]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
>
> I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
> suggestions on a replacement.
> Thanks,Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
>References
>
> 1. [22]mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 2. [23]mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
> 3. [24]mailto:%20djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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