[DeTomaso] Radiator
Pantdino
pantdino at aol.com
Mon Oct 29 14:47:28 EDT 2018
I have been using distilled water for 40 years with excellent results. Tap water by me has tons of minerals in it that clog up pipes and showerheads and as far as I know softeners add sodium / salt to the water. That cant be good
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Steve <steve at snclocks.com>; detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 29, 2018 8:07 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Actually Softened Tap water is best, then tap water, but that varies quite
a bit. Actually The worst thing you can use is DI water which promotes
electrolysis in your cooling system.
On 10/29/18, 7:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of steve at snclocks.com>
wrote:
>Wow - does anyone use tap water in their radiators??? DI water is less
>than a dollar a gallon!
>
>Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>Behalf Of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
>To: djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; audionut at hushmail.com
>Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water in
>your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of the
>EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a swimming
>pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in some tap
>water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water for your
>cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map and two
>houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles apart. If a
>couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST use an anti-acid
>additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really low, a sacrificial
>anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have been dealing with this
>for 55 years and have everything in stock.
>
>Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is less
>than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the
>black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip
>soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when tightening
>things into aluminum.
>
>Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using since
>the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days of the
>split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this Forum have
>described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range, put one lead
>in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If you see more
>than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast your alloy parts
>are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too coarse in its
>ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must. Mine cost $250 in
>1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will not work. Its like
>trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
>
>Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire
>life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other
>things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>To: audionut <audionut at hushmail.com>
>CC: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
> Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: [1]audionut at hushmail.com
> Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
> To: [2]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
> Hi Dave--
> I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650). 10 years ago, with simple
> tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
> sucker fans.
> I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
> it-- the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it ever
> leaked.
> I change coolant every 2 years.
> Best of luck!
> John
> 73L #5909
> Sent using Hushmail
> On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
>
> I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
> suggestions on a replacement.
> Thanks,Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
>References
>
> 1. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 2. mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
> 3. mailto:%20djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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I have been using distilled water for 40 years with excellent results.
Tap water by me has tons of minerals in it that clog up pipes and
showerheads and as far as I know softeners add sodium / salt to the
water. That cant be good
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Steve <steve at snclocks.com>; detomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 29, 2018 8:07 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Actually Softened Tap water is best, then tap water, but that varies
quite
a bit. Actually The worst thing you can use is DI water which promotes
electrolysis in your cooling system.
On 10/29/18, 7:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve"
<detomaso-[1]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[2]steve at snclocks.com>
wrote:
>Wow - does anyone use tap water in their radiators??? DI water is less
>than a dollar a gallon!
>
>Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>Behalf Of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
>To: [4]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; [5]audionut at hushmail.com
>Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water
in
>your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of the
>EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a
swimming
>pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in some tap
>water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water for your
>cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map and two
>houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles apart. If a
>couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST use an
anti-acid
>additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really low, a sacrificial
>anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have been dealing with
this
>for 55 years and have everything in stock.
>
>Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is
less
>than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the
>black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip
>soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when
tightening
>things into aluminum.
>
>Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using
since
>the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days of
the
>split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this Forum
have
>described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range, put one
lead
>in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If you see more
>than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast your alloy
parts
>are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too coarse in its
>ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must. Mine cost $250
in
>1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will not work. Its
like
>trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
>
>Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts
tire
>life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other
>things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [7]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
<[8]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>To: audionut <[9]audionut at hushmail.com>
>CC: [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
>
> Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
> Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: [1][12]audionut at hushmail.com
> Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
> To: [2][13]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
> Hi Dave--
> I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650). 10 years ago, with simple
> tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
> sucker fans.
> I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
> it-- the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it ever
> leaked.
> I change coolant every 2 years.
> Best of luck!
> John
> 73L #5909
> Sent using Hushmail
> On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] [14]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
>
> I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
> suggestions on a replacement.
> Thanks,Dave
> Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
>References
>
> 1. [15]mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 2. [16]mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
> 3. [17]mailto:%20djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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