[DeTomaso] Gooseneck fuel filler caps for sale

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 25 13:44:42 EDT 2018 

Personally I thought they were laughably cheap considering the programming, billet aluminum cost then CNC work that goes into them, plus they looked a quality item.


I think the problem is that some folks associate having a 1970's car with 1970's prices and are oblivious to inflation. A cap purchased in 1980 for $20 now has a present inflated dollar value of a little over $61.


Making these with an aye for a chain to allow them to hang from the filler neck whilst filling would alleviate many losses.

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of MARK CHARLTON <pantera01826 at rogers.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: Mike Drew via DeTomaso
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gooseneck fuel filler caps for sale

Hey Mike,

I will be happy to have a spare on my shelf, even at your “exorbitant” price. Ha Ha Ha. Good thing I live the real world. I know all about set-up costs, and if I had $5 for every time a client challenged me on WHY something we made was so expensive, I’d be retired now. My response is usually along the lines of “because you aren’t buying 100,000 pcs like Wal-Mart, and my shop isn’t in China”…

PayPal? Personal delivery included? Say around February? ;-)

Mark

Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com



> On Oct 24, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>   Jim,
>
>   It's all in the setup time. You bought yours when they were still in
>   production and had been purchased in the hundreds, and were just
>   sitting on the shelf. That drives the cost way down.
>
>   I had to buy 20 to make it somewhat reasonable. If I had just had two
>   made, they would have cost hundreds of dollars each.  And if I had a
>   thousand made they probably would have cost $15 or something.....
>
>   Mike
>   Sent from my iPad
>   On Oct 24, 2018, at 17:52, Jim Wallace <[1]pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>
>   wrote:
>
>   Mike,
>   At that price I am glad I have two in my inventory......someone is
>   making a killing!
>   Jim
>     __________________________________________________________________
>
>   From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   To: De Tomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 4:22 PM
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Gooseneck fuel filler caps for sale
>   Guys,
>   Most 1971-73 Panteras have been fitted with an aftermarket gooseneck
>   fuel filler that was made for many years by Hall Pantera. This filler
>   uses a billet aluminum fine-thread cap, equipped with the De Tomaso
>   logo and a rubber seal (both to contain fumes and to provide friction
>   so it won't vibrate loose).
>   Some may remember that many years ago, Larry Finch lost his cap in a
>   gas station, and discovered that the filler neck and cap had been
>   discontinued and they were no longer available. He tooled up to have a
>   run of new caps made, and quickly sold out.
>   In July, a friend in Germany managed to forget his cap in France on his
>   way home from Le Mans. He asked me to source a replacement, and
>   committed to buying two to have one as a spare, a wise move indeed.
>   After searching all around I found that there were no replacement caps
>   to be found. After talking with Larry, I decided to follow his lead and
>   have another production run made. The extra machining required for the
>   addition of the De Tomaso logo cap, and the cap itself both added to
>   the cost, but I was determined to maintain the quality of the
>   originals.
>   I now have a limited number available for purchase (18 remaining). Once
>   they are gone, there will be no more. I have no financial interest
>   apart from trying to make my money back; I am selling them at my cost,
>   which is $50 each.
>   Here is what they look like:
>   As I said, when this limited production run is gone, there will be no
>   more. I have always kept a spare for myself because of the inherent
>   risk of losing these caps (the seal insures they won't fall off by
>   themselves, but nothing will prevent you from leaving it on top of the
>   gas station pump).
>   If you are interested in having a spare cap, contact me right away. If
>   I don't sell all of them to you guys, eventually they will be sold (for
>   a higher price) on eBay.
>   Cheers!
>   Mike
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   Personally I thought they were laughably cheap considering the
   programming, billet aluminum cost then CNC work that goes into them,
   plus they looked a quality item.

   I think the problem is that some folks associate having a 1970's car
   with 1970's prices and are oblivious to inflation. A cap purchased in
   1980 for $20 now has a present inflated dollar value of a little over
   $61.

   Making these with an aye for a chain to allow them to hang from the
   filler neck whilst filling would alleviate many losses.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   MARK CHARLTON <pantera01826 at rogers.com>
   Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:57 AM
   To: Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gooseneck fuel filler caps for sale

   Hey Mike,
   I will be happy to have a spare on my shelf, even at your "exorbitant"
   price. Ha Ha Ha. Good thing I live the real world. I know all about
   set-up costs, and if I had $5 for every time a client challenged me on
   WHY something we made was so expensive, I'd be retired now. My response
   is usually along the lines of "because you aren't buying 100,000 pcs
   like Wal-Mart, and my shop isn't in China"...
   PayPal? Personal delivery included? Say around February? ;-)
   Mark
   Mark Charlton
   pantera01826 at rogers.com
   > On Oct 24, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >   Jim,
   >
   >   It's all in the setup time. You bought yours when they were still
   in
   >   production and had been purchased in the hundreds, and were just
   >   sitting on the shelf. That drives the cost way down.
   >
   >   I had to buy 20 to make it somewhat reasonable. If I had just had
   two
   >   made, they would have cost hundreds of dollars each.  And if I had
   a
   >   thousand made they probably would have cost $15 or something.....
   >
   >   Mike
   >   Sent from my iPad
   >   On Oct 24, 2018, at 17:52, Jim Wallace <[1]pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>
   >   wrote:
   >
   >   Mike,
   >   At that price I am glad I have two in my inventory......someone is
   >   making a killing!
   >   Jim
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >   From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >   To: De Tomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 4:22 PM
   >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Gooseneck fuel filler caps for sale
   >   Guys,
   >   Most 1971-73 Panteras have been fitted with an aftermarket
   gooseneck
   >   fuel filler that was made for many years by Hall Pantera. This
   filler
   >   uses a billet aluminum fine-thread cap, equipped with the De Tomaso
   >   logo and a rubber seal (both to contain fumes and to provide
   friction
   >   so it won't vibrate loose).
   >   Some may remember that many years ago, Larry Finch lost his cap in
   a
   >   gas station, and discovered that the filler neck and cap had been
   >   discontinued and they were no longer available. He tooled up to
   have a
   >   run of new caps made, and quickly sold out.
   >   In July, a friend in Germany managed to forget his cap in France on
   his
   >   way home from Le Mans. He asked me to source a replacement, and
   >   committed to buying two to have one as a spare, a wise move indeed.
   >   After searching all around I found that there were no replacement
   caps
   >   to be found. After talking with Larry, I decided to follow his lead
   and
   >   have another production run made. The extra machining required for
   the
   >   addition of the De Tomaso logo cap, and the cap itself both added
   to
   >   the cost, but I was determined to maintain the quality of the
   >   originals.
   >   I now have a limited number available for purchase (18 remaining).
   Once
   >   they are gone, there will be no more. I have no financial interest
   >   apart from trying to make my money back; I am selling them at my
   cost,
   >   which is $50 each.
   >   Here is what they look like:
   >   As I said, when this limited production run is gone, there will be
   no
   >   more. I have always kept a spare for myself because of the inherent
   >   risk of losing these caps (the seal insures they won't fall off by
   >   themselves, but nothing will prevent you from leaving it on top of
   the
   >   gas station pump).
   >   If you are interested in having a spare cap, contact me right away.
   If
   >   I don't sell all of them to you guys, eventually they will be sold
   (for
   >   a higher price) on eBay.
   >   Cheers!
   >   Mike
   >   Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________
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