[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 172, Issue 22
Owen Cooke
owen at tadhgcooke.com
Mon Oct 22 12:07:23 EDT 2018
it is quite normal for any lazy window motor to work ok down but the
load is far greater to lift the glass upwards so slow up and fast down
is quite normal and common
very unlikely to be switch or circuits but you could clean away all old
sticky lubricant and spray with light oil on all moving parts . Then
put talcum powder on glass brushes or rubber and running channels where
glass contact plastic or rubber or brushes.
after that if still not acceptable you need a new motor or a rebuild of
the motor
owen
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> 1. Anyone interested in a Ford motorsports block and parts?
> (Kurt Byrnes)
> 2. Re: Help-Window slow to up!!! (Panteratime)
> 3. AC hose length (John McKee)
> 4. Re: Help-Window slow to up!!! (Mike Drew)
> 5. Re: Anyone interested in a Ford motorsports block and parts?
> (Mike Drew)
> 6. Re: Help-Window slow to up!!! (Mike Drew)
> 7. Re: Anyone interested in a Ford motorsports block and parts?
> (Kurt Byrnes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:58:52 -0400
> From: Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com>
> To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Anyone interested in a Ford motorsports block and
> parts?
> Message-ID: <22390401-665c-f12b-37c5-5964b28b66ed at kbyrnes.com>
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>
> A friend bought a Ford engine for an older Winston Cup car that he was
> going to build.? He sold the car and now would like to get rid of the
> engine because he doesn't have any other Ford stuff. He was told the
> engine was originally from an Indy car.? The heads and intake
> disappeared from his shop so he's looking to sell the what is
> remaining.? I have some pictures if anyone is interested.
>
> Block: e6zm-6015-g351 and dry sump pan
>
> Crank: Bryant 3.49 stroke? #2394
>
> 5 stage Weaver dry sump pump
>
> MSD 8384 distributor
>
> misc parts
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:04:03 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
> To: forestg at att.net, detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> Message-ID: <1303184821.941795.1540148643273 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Forest,You are right on the money with your assessment of my description.? So I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>; detomaso at detomasolist.com <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>
> If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction but is slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch can be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original switch I would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from most vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from Pantera Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the cost of switches I would not mess with it.Forest
>
> From: Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>
> ? Folks,
>
> ? Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor and
> ? wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor.? The
> ? new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the up.
> ? Can I assume Switch?? I understand the difference from up/down is
> ? polarity in the switch?? Can the window switch be dissembled and the
> ? contact cleaned?? If not--Best place to get another switch?? Also what
> ? grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc..? inside door.? Thanks
> ? !!
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Forest,
>
> You are right on the money with your assessment of my description. So
> I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>; detomaso at detomasolist.com
> <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
> connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction but is
> slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
> circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch can
> be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original switch I
> would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from most
> vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from Pantera
> Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the cost of
> switches I would not mess with it.
> Forest
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> Folks,
> Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor and
> wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor. The
> new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the up.
> Can I assume Switch? I understand the difference from up/down is
> polarity in the switch? Can the window switch be dissembled and the
> contact cleaned? If not--Best place to get another switch? Also
> what
> grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc.. inside door. Thanks
> !!
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:08:41 -0700
> From: "John McKee" <johnmckee at cox.net>
> To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] AC hose length
> Message-ID: <0a8e01d46971$7b664d70$7232e850$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I am laying out my hose kit for the front mounted A/C condenser and the hose
> lengths look a little off. Would anybody happen to have their hose length
> measurements recorded that they could send me?
>
> I would like to verify I have the proper hose kit before I take the skin off
> of my knuckles and talk like an angry sailor to my car..
>
> I might have the wrong hose kit (the one for the rear) so if you have those
> measurements that might be helpful as well.
>
> Here is what I have.
>
>
>
> #6 - 12"
>
> #6 - 15'-0"
>
> #8 - 8'-2"
>
> #10 - 13'-10"
>
>
>
> The general layout idea is this;
>
> 1 foot #6 from bottom of condenser to drier mounted in front right wheel
> well.
>
> 15 foot #6 from drier to evaporator.
>
> 13 foot #10 from evaporator to compressor. (13' looks very long for this run
> but I do not think condenser location would change this length.)
>
> 8 foot #8 from compressor to top of condenser. (this seems short as it
> appears to be the longest run of the layout)
>
>
>
> Thank you for your input!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> I am laying out my hose kit for the front mounted A/C condenser and the
> hose lengths look a little off. Would anybody happen to have their hose
> length measurements recorded that they could send me?
>
> I would like to verify I have the proper hose kit before I take the
> skin off of my knuckles and talk like an angry sailor to my car....
>
> I might have the wrong hose kit (the one for the rear) so if you have
> those measurements that might be helpful as well.
>
> Here is what I have.
>
>
> #6 - 12"
>
> #6 - 15'-0"
>
> #8 - 8'-2"
>
> #10 - 13'-10"
>
>
> The general layout idea is this;
>
> 1 foot #6 from bottom of condenser to drier mounted in front right
> wheel well.
>
> 15 foot #6 from drier to evaporator.
>
> 13 foot #10 from evaporator to compressor. (13' looks very long for
> this run but I do not think condenser location would change this
> length.)
>
> 8 foot #8 from compressor to top of condenser. (this seems short as it
> appears to be the longest run of the layout)
>
>
> Thank you for your input!
>
>
> John
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:36:00 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
> Cc: forestg at att.net, detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> Message-ID: <7B2C508E-3C3D-4CFC-99FE-4041F5063876 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Cliff,
>
> Am I to assume you still have the stock original window switches? They are junk and I am surprised they have lasted this long. The new stock replacement switches are even worse!
>
> You definitely want Bosch switches. Here is everything you need to know about them, including a wiring transmogrifier.
>
>
>
> Old-school dot matrix printer from the 1980s...but the facts are still the facts.
>
> Do an eBay search on the window switch part number and you can find them pretty cheaply.
>
> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F111059074954
>
> Don?t buy just one. If you are converting your car from stock switches to bosch, they are just slightly different so you need to buy a pair. They are a hair?s width wider, so you will need to carefully file the outside edges of the openings in the instrument panel.
>
> If you already have Bosch switches, yours is the first i have ever hear of that failed.
>
> Of course, nobody would be selling them if they didn?t fail eventually, would they? :)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:04, Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Forest,
>>
>> You are right on the money with your assessment of my description. So
>> I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
>> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>; detomaso at detomasolist.com
>> <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>> If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
>> connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction but is
>> slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
>> circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch can
>> be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original switch I
>> would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from most
>> vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from Pantera
>> Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the cost of
>> switches I would not mess with it.
>> Forest
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>> Folks,
>> Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor and
>> wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor. The
>> new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the up.
>> Can I assume Switch? I understand the difference from up/down is
>> polarity in the switch? Can the window switch be dissembled and the
>> contact cleaned? If not--Best place to get another switch? Also
>> what
>> grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc.. inside door. Thanks
>> !!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Cliff,
> Am I to assume you still have the stock original window switches? They
> are junk and I am surprised they have lasted this long. The new stock
> replacement switches are even worse!
> You definitely want Bosch switches. Here is everything you need to know
> about them, including a wiring transmogrifier.
>
> image1.png
> Old-school dot matrix printer from the 1980s...but the facts are still
> the facts.
>
> Do an eBay search on the window switch part number and you can find
> them pretty cheaply.
>
> [1]https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2
> Fulk%2Fitm%2F111059074954
>
> Don't buy just one. If you are converting your car from stock switches
> to bosch, they are just slightly different so you need to buy a pair.
> They are a hair's width wider, so you will need to carefully file the
> outside edges of the openings in the instrument panel.
>
> If you already have Bosch switches, yours is the first i have ever hear
> of that failed.
>
> Of course, nobody would be selling them if they didn't fail eventually,
> would they? :)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:04, Panteratime via DeTomaso
> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Forest,
>
> You are right on the money with your assessment of my description.
> So
>
> I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>
>
> To: Panteratime <[4]panteratime at aol.com>;
> [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com
>
> <[6]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>
> If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
>
> connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction but
> is
>
> slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
>
> circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch
> can
>
> be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original
> switch I
>
> would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from
> most
>
> vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from
> Pantera
>
> Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the
> cost of
>
> switches I would not mess with it.
>
> Forest
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> _
>
> From: Panteratime via DeTomaso
> <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>
> To: [8]detomaso at detomasolist.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>
> Folks,
>
> Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor
> and
>
> wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor.
> The
>
> new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the
> up.
>
> Can I assume Switch? I understand the difference from up/down is
>
> polarity in the switch? Can the window switch be dissembled and
> the
>
> contact cleaned? If not--Best place to get another switch? Also
>
> what
>
> grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc.. inside door.
> Thanks
>
> !!
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:37:50 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone interested in a Ford motorsports block
> and parts?
> Message-ID: <CB84640D-8A5F-4DCB-89D8-2EBEA8CA4116 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Kurt,
>
> Might be a nice engine but it definitely wasn?t from an Indy car. It would have come from some sort of NASCAR car.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 11:58, Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com> wrote:
>>
>> A friend bought a Ford engine for an older Winston Cup car that he was going to build. He sold the car and now would like to get rid of the engine because he doesn't have any other Ford stuff. He was told the engine was originally from an Indy car. The heads and intake disappeared from his shop so he's looking to sell the what is remaining. I have some pictures if anyone is interested.
>>
>> Block: e6zm-6015-g351 and dry sump pan
>>
>> Crank: Bryant 3.49 stroke #2394
>>
>> 5 stage Weaver dry sump pump
>>
>> MSD 8384 distributor
>>
>> misc parts
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:39:16 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: forestg at att.net, detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> Message-ID: <20BC6F82-14A2-4D84-9CAD-9DDB1BE9DCC4 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hmm. Forum seems to have stripped away the attached article and wiring diagram. It can be found here:
>
> http://www.panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/Window%20Switch%20Diagram.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 13:36, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cliff,
>> Am I to assume you still have the stock original window switches? They
>> are junk and I am surprised they have lasted this long. The new stock
>> replacement switches are even worse!
>> You definitely want Bosch switches. Here is everything you need to know
>> about them, including a wiring transmogrifier.
>>
>> image1.png
>> Old-school dot matrix printer from the 1980s...but the facts are still
>> the facts.
>>
>> Do an eBay search on the window switch part number and you can find
>> them pretty cheaply.
>>
>> [1]https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2
>> Fulk%2Fitm%2F111059074954
>>
>> Don't buy just one. If you are converting your car from stock switches
>> to bosch, they are just slightly different so you need to buy a pair.
>> They are a hair's width wider, so you will need to carefully file the
>> outside edges of the openings in the instrument panel.
>>
>> If you already have Bosch switches, yours is the first i have ever hear
>> of that failed.
>>
>> Of course, nobody would be selling them if they didn't fail eventually,
>> would they? :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:04, Panteratime via DeTomaso
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Forest,
>>
>> You are right on the money with your assessment of my description.
>> So
>>
>> I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>
>>
>> To: Panteratime <[4]panteratime at aol.com>;
>> [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com
>>
>> <[6]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>>
>> If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
>>
>> connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction but
>> is
>>
>> slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
>>
>> circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch
>> can
>>
>> be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original
>> switch I
>>
>> would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from
>> most
>>
>> vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from
>> Pantera
>>
>> Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the
>> cost of
>>
>> switches I would not mess with it.
>>
>> Forest
>>
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>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor
>> and
>>
>> wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor.
>> The
>>
>> new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the
>> up.
>>
>> Can I assume Switch? I understand the difference from up/down is
>>
>> polarity in the switch? Can the window switch be dissembled and
>> the
>>
>> contact cleaned? If not--Best place to get another switch? Also
>>
>> what
>>
>> grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc.. inside door.
>> Thanks
>>
>> !!
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> Hmm. Forum seems to have stripped away the attached article and wiring
> diagram. It can be found here:
>
> [1]http://www.panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/Window%20Switch%20Diagram
> .jpg
>
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 21, 2018, at 13:36, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Cliff,
> Am I to assume you still have the stock original window switches?
> They
> are junk and I am surprised they have lasted this long. The new stock
> replacement switches are even worse!
> You definitely want Bosch switches. Here is everything you need to
> know
> about them, including a wiring transmogrifier.
> image1.png
> Old-school dot matrix printer from the 1980s...but the facts are
> still
> the facts.
> Do an eBay search on the window switch part number and you can find
> them pretty cheaply.
> [1][3]https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.
> com%2
> Fulk%2Fitm%2F111059074954
> Don't buy just one. If you are converting your car from stock
> switches
> to bosch, they are just slightly different so you need to buy a pair.
> They are a hair's width wider, so you will need to carefully file the
> outside edges of the openings in the instrument panel.
> If you already have Bosch switches, yours is the first i have ever
> hear
> of that failed.
> Of course, nobody would be selling them if they didn't fail
> eventually,
> would they? :)
> Cheers!
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:04, Panteratime via DeTomaso
> <[2][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Forest,
> You are right on the money with your assessment of my description.
> So
> I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Goodhart <[3][5]forestg at att.net>
> To: Panteratime <[4][6]panteratime at aol.com>;
> [5][7]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> <[6][8]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
> connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction
> but
> is
> slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
> circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch
> can
> be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original
> switch I
> would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from
> most
> vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from
> Pantera
> Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the
> cost of
> switches I would not mess with it.
> Forest
> ________________________________________________________________
> _
> _
> From: Panteratime via DeTomaso
> <[7][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: [8][10]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> Folks,
> Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor
> and
> wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor.
> The
> new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the
> up.
> Can I assume Switch? I understand the difference from up/down
> is
> polarity in the switch? Can the window switch be dissembled and
> the
> contact cleaned? If not--Best place to get another switch?
> Also
> what
> grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc.. inside door.
> Thanks
> !!
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:42:48 -0400
> From: Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone interested in a Ford motorsports block
> and parts?
> Message-ID: <e9fe6ff5-ece9-bdf2-7927-3e6068a026b8 at kbyrnes.com>
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> I agree Mike, just relaying what I was told.
>
> On 10/21/2018 4:37 PM, Mike Drew wrote:
>> Kurt,
>>
>> Might be a nice engine but it definitely wasn?t from an Indy car. It would have come from some sort of NASCAR car.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 11:58, Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend bought a Ford engine for an older Winston Cup car that he was going to build. He sold the car and now would like to get rid of the engine because he doesn't have any other Ford stuff. He was told the engine was originally from an Indy car. The heads and intake disappeared from his shop so he's looking to sell the what is remaining. I have some pictures if anyone is interested.
>>>
>>> Block: e6zm-6015-g351 and dry sump pan
>>>
>>> Crank: Bryant 3.49 stroke #2394
>>>
>>> 5 stage Weaver dry sump pump
>>>
>>> MSD 8384 distributor
>>>
>>> misc parts
>>>
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