[DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sun Oct 21 16:39:16 EDT 2018


Hmm. Forum seems to have stripped away the attached article and wiring diagram. It can be found here:

http://www.panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/Window%20Switch%20Diagram.jpg

Mike

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> On Oct 21, 2018, at 13:36, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>   Cliff,
>   Am I to assume you still have the stock original window switches? They
>   are junk and I am surprised they have lasted this long. The new stock
>   replacement switches are even worse!
>   You definitely want Bosch switches. Here is everything you need to know
>   about them, including a wiring transmogrifier.
> 
>   image1.png
>   Old-school dot matrix printer from the 1980s...but the facts are still
>   the facts.
> 
>   Do an eBay search on the window switch part number and you can find
>   them pretty cheaply.
> 
>   [1]https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2
>   Fulk%2Fitm%2F111059074954
> 
>   Don't buy just one.  If you are converting your car from stock switches
>   to bosch, they are just slightly different so you need to buy a pair.
>   They are a hair's width wider, so you will need to carefully file the
>   outside edges of the openings in the instrument panel.
> 
>   If you already have Bosch switches, yours is the first i have ever hear
>   of that failed.
> 
>   Of course, nobody would be selling them if they didn't fail eventually,
>   would they? :)
> 
>   Cheers!
> 
>   Mike
> 
>   Sent from my iPad
> 
>     On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:04, Panteratime via DeTomaso
>     <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>      Forest,
> 
>      You are right on the money with your assessment of my description.
>      So
> 
>      I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
> 
>      From: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg at att.net>
> 
>      To: Panteratime <[4]panteratime at aol.com>;
>     [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> 
>      <[6]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> 
>      Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
> 
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> 
>      If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
> 
>      connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction but
>     is
> 
>      slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
> 
>      circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch
>     can
> 
>      be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original
>     switch I
> 
>      would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from
>     most
> 
>      vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from
>     Pantera
> 
>      Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the
>     cost of
> 
>      switches I would not mess with it.
> 
>      Forest
> 
>        _________________________________________________________________
>     _
> 
>      From: Panteratime via DeTomaso
>     <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> 
>      To: [8]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> 
>      Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
> 
>      Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
> 
>        Folks,
> 
>        Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor
>     and
> 
>        wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor.
>      The
> 
>        new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the
>     up.
> 
>        Can I assume Switch?  I understand the difference from up/down is
> 
>        polarity in the switch?  Can the window switch be dissembled and
>     the
> 
>        contact cleaned?  If not--Best place to get another switch?  Also
> 
>      what
> 
>        grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc..  inside door.
>     Thanks
> 
>        !!
> 
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   Hmm. Forum seems to have stripped away the attached article and wiring
   diagram. It can be found here:

   [1]http://www.panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/Window%20Switch%20Diagram
   .jpg

   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   On Oct 21, 2018, at 13:36, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     Cliff,
     Am I to assume you still have the stock original window switches?
   They
     are junk and I am surprised they have lasted this long. The new stock
     replacement switches are even worse!
     You definitely want Bosch switches. Here is everything you need to
   know
     about them, including a wiring transmogrifier.
     image1.png
     Old-school dot matrix printer from the 1980s...but the facts are
   still
     the facts.
     Do an eBay search on the window switch part number and you can find
     them pretty cheaply.
     [1][3]https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.
   com%2
     Fulk%2Fitm%2F111059074954
     Don't buy just one.  If you are converting your car from stock
   switches
     to bosch, they are just slightly different so you need to buy a pair.
     They are a hair's width wider, so you will need to carefully file the
     outside edges of the openings in the instrument panel.
     If you already have Bosch switches, yours is the first i have ever
   hear
     of that failed.
     Of course, nobody would be selling them if they didn't fail
   eventually,
     would they? :)
     Cheers!
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad
       On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:04, Panteratime via DeTomaso
       <[2][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
        Forest,
        You are right on the money with your assessment of my description.
        So
        I will purchase a switch sir--Thanks
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Forest Goodhart <[3][5]forestg at att.net>
        To: Panteratime <[4][6]panteratime at aol.com>;
       [5][7]detomaso at detomasolist.com
        <[6][8]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
        Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
        If I read his description correctly he has a separate motor not
        connected to anything that runs as normal in the down direction
   but
       is
        slow in the up direction. This indicates some resistance in the
        circuit, most assuredly in the switch. I do not know if the switch
       can
        be disassembled and contacts cleaned but if it is an original
       switch I
        would recommend replacing with a Bosh replacement available from
       most
        vendors or if someone has switched over to the switches from
       Pantera
        Electronics there may be some good used ones available. For the
       cost of
        switches I would not mess with it.
        Forest
          ________________________________________________________________
   _
       _
        From: Panteratime via DeTomaso
       <[7][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
        To: [8][10]detomaso at detomasolist.com
        Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:54 PM
        Subject: [DeTomaso] Help-Window slow to up!!!
          Folks,
          Window goes down no problem, I detached the wires to the motor
       and
          wired up a small 12 volt motor to see if its my switch or motor.
        The
          new "test" motor whirled great on the down but very slow on the
       up.
          Can I assume Switch?  I understand the difference from up/down
   is
          polarity in the switch?  Can the window switch be dissembled and
       the
          contact cleaned?  If not--Best place to get another switch?
   Also
        what
          grease should I grease rails, mechanism,etc..  inside door.
       Thanks
          !!
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