[DeTomaso] BaT 1972 Pantera - Damaged during test drive

Pantdino pantdino at aol.com
Thu Oct 4 22:22:40 EDT 2018


In which case you'd have no hope of ever getting a penny, because he probably doesn't have any assets.






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From: B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2018 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] BaT 1972 Pantera - Damaged during test drive

Unless the drive has no valid drivers license.
   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 10:45:33 AM CDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   Jeff,
   Yup, thatas true everywhere in the US.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Oct 4, 2018, at 08:43, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >  I don't know if this is specific to Texas or not, but here in Texas
   if
   >  a car is involved in an accident, the car carries the insurance
   >  regardless of who is driving. So if the guy says he has insurance,
   it
   >  doesn't matter, even if it's his fault. If you own the car, it's
   your
   >  insurance that pays.
   >  Jeff
   >
   >  On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 3:27 PM Pantdino via DeTomaso
   >  <[1][2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >    A  A I think you can accomplish the same thing by instructing the
   >    owner /
   >    A  A driver to do what you'd do, ie stop with hands off the wheel,
   >    downshift
   >    A  A to second at a certain speed to see if the synchros are
   >    working, apply
   >    A  A throttle to see if the car changes direction, brake hard,
   etc.
   >    A  A My impression is that with Ferraris the buyer does not drive
   >    the car
   >    A  A until he has officially purchased it.A  Too much money at
   risk.
   >    A  A Jim
   >    A  A -----Original Message-----
   >    A  A From: MARK CHARLTON <[2][3]pantera01826 at rogers.com>
   >    A  A To: Himes, Terry (397C) (397C)
   <[3][4]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   >    A  A Cc: DeTomaso Email List
   <[4][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
   >    The
   >    A  A DeTomaso Registry Guy <[5][6]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   >    A  A Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2018 12:19 pm
   >    A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] BaT 1972 Pantera - Damaged during
   test
   >    drive
   >    A  A I agree that it seems like it would be dumb to buy a car
   >    without
   >    A  A driving it, but on reflection, I have bought three collector
   >    cars
   >    A  A without driving them (each for different reasons) before
   >    purchasing
   >    A  A them. That includes two Panteras and a Longchamp. I
   definitely
   >    would
   >    A  A never let someone I do not know or trust drive one of my cars
   >    until the
   >    A  A deal is done (or at least a large deposit is in-hand). Mark
   >    Charlton
   >    A  A [1][6][7]pantera01826 at rogers.com > On Oct 2, 2018, at 2:32
   PM,
   >    Himes, Terry
   >    A  A (397C) via DeTomaso
   <[2][7][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >    wrote: > >
   >    A  A Well said! > > Except for one thing... realistically, who
   would
   >    buy a
   >    A  A car before they drove it?? > > > "A Purple Heart proves you
   >    were smart
   >    A  A enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky
   >    enough to
   >    A  A survive!" > > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   >    Dawn
   >    A  A Spacecraft Team > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead > Phone: (818)
   >    393-6261 >
   >    A  A Cell: (818) 653-8213 > [3][8][9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > d--od-,
   > >
   >> i>>?On
   >    A  A 10/2/18, 11:23 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton"
   >    A  A <detomaso-[4][9][10]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf
   of
   >    A  A [5][10][11]asajay at asajay.com> wrote: > > I have to chime in
   here. I
   >    think there
   >    A  A is a matter of "vetting" the potential buyer before letting
   >    them test
   >    A  A drive. Yes, there are those who just want to burn the tires
   and
   >    see how
   >   A  A fast the car goes; these you don't want driving the car. > >
   A
   >    real car
   >    A  A guy who appreciates what they are looking to buy, will
  >    understand the
   >    A  A concepts of horsepower and what it can do. They will
   understand
   >    the
   >    A  A dynamic difference between mashing the throttle down and
   easing
   >    into
   >    A  A it. They will know and feel if the engine is operating
   >    properly, if the
   >    A  A secondaries for example are working or not. This what you
   >    discover by
   >    A  A properly vetting the buyer. > > It's a mid-engine car. Have
   >    they driven
   >    A  A anything like that before? With horsepower? > What do they do
   >    for a
   >    A  A living? What are their hobbies? What other cars do they own?
   >    And more
   >    A  A ... > > The idea is to get comfortable with the buyer. If you
   >    aren't
   >    A  A comfortable with the buyer.... they don't get to drive it,
   >    until money
   >    A  A is in hand and the title has been signed. > > Just my
   thoughts.
   >> Asa
   >    A  A Jay > > > a-L-Asa Jay Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired >
   >    Sent
   >    A  A using Jedi Mind Tricksa > > On Oct 2, 2018, 09:28, at 09:28,
   >    The
   >    A  A DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6][11][12]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   >    wrote: >> >> When
   >    A  A I bought my Pantera, The seller would not allow me to drive
   it.
   >>>>>
  >    A  A He said people could loose control of the car with its power.
   >>>>> At
   >    A  A the time I thought this was a little 'odd', but I still
 bought
   >    the >>
   >    A  A car. >> >> Soon thereafter I found that he used the wrong
   carb
   >    cable
   >    A  A bracket, and >> the secondaries were not opening. >> >> Yea,
   >    the car
   >    A  A was a lot faster after that quick fix. >> >> Even if
   insurance
   >    covers
   >    A  A the damage, there is still a loss in value >> with >> the car
   >    now
   >    A  A having been in a wreck, minor as it may be. >> >> The driver
 >    owes the
   >    A  A owner some money, like $10,000, part compensation >> and part
   >    A  A punishment. >> >> Few truly honest people out there... so
   this
   >    won't
   >    A  A happen. >> >> I am 'hired' occasionally to drive specialty
   >    cars. >> >>
   >    A  A This is to diagnose problems, provide my opinion, or to give
   >    demo rides
   >    A  A >> to perspective buyers. >> >> I was even asked to drive Bob
   >    Benson's
   >  A  A Blue Beast at the DeAnza Auto-X >> ... Just to heat up the
   >    tires! >> >>
   >    A  A Now that was FUN! >> >> Chuck >> >> >>
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   In which case you'd have no hope of ever getting a penny, because he
   probably doesn't have any assets.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2018 6:26 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] BaT 1972 Pantera - Damaged during test drive
   Unless the drive has no valid drivers license.
   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
   On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 10:45:33 AM CDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   Jeff,
   Yup, thatas true everywhere in the US.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Oct 4, 2018, at 08:43, Jeff Detrich <[1][2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > I don't know if this is specific to Texas or not, but here in Texas
   if
   > a car is involved in an accident, the car carries the insurance
   > regardless of who is driving. So if the guy says he has insurance,
   it
   > doesn't matter, even if it's his fault. If you own the car, it's
   your
   > insurance that pays.
   > Jeff
   >
   > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 3:27 PM Pantdino via DeTomaso
   > <[1][2][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   > A A I think you can accomplish the same thing by instructing the
   > owner /
   > A A driver to do what you'd do, ie stop with hands off the wheel,
   > downshift
   > A A to second at a certain speed to see if the synchros are
   > working, apply
   > A A throttle to see if the car changes direction, brake hard,
   etc.
   > A A My impression is that with Ferraris the buyer does not drive
   > the car
   > A A until he has officially purchased it.A Too much money at
   risk.
   > A A Jim
   > A A -----Original Message-----
   > A A From: MARK CHARLTON <[2][3][4]pantera01826 at rogers.com>
   > A A To: Himes, Terry (397C) (397C)
   <[3][4][5]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > A A Cc: DeTomaso Email List
   <[4][5][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
   > The
   > A A DeTomaso Registry Guy <[5][6][7]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   > A A Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2018 12:19 pm
   > A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] BaT 1972 Pantera - Damaged during
   test
   > drive
   > A A I agree that it seems like it would be dumb to buy a car
   > without
   > A A driving it, but on reflection, I have bought three collector
   > cars
   > A A without driving them (each for different reasons) before
   > purchasing
   > A A them. That includes two Panteras and a Longchamp. I
   definitely
   > would
   > A A never let someone I do not know or trust drive one of my cars
   > until the
   > A A deal is done (or at least a large deposit is in-hand). Mark
   > Charlton
   > A A [1][6][7][8]pantera01826 at rogers.com > On Oct 2, 2018, at 2:32
   PM,
   > Himes, Terry
   > A A (397C) via DeTomaso
   <[2][7][8][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > wrote: > >
   > A A Well said! > > Except for one thing... realistically, who
   would
   > buy a
   > A A car before they drove it?? > > > "A Purple Heart proves you
   > were smart
   > A A enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky
   > enough to
   > A A survive!" > > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   > Dawn
   > A A Spacecraft Team > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead > Phone: (818)
   > 393-6261 >
   > A A Cell: (818) 653-8213 > [3][8][9][10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov > d--od-,
   > >
   >> i>>?On
   > A A 10/2/18, 11:23 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton"
   > A A <detomaso-[4][9][10][11]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf
   of
   > A A [5][10][11][12]asajay at asajay.com> wrote: > > I have to chime in
   here. I
   > think there
   > A A is a matter of "vetting" the potential buyer before letting
   > them test
   > A A drive. Yes, there are those who just want to burn the tires
   and
   > see how
   > A A fast the car goes; these you don't want driving the car. > >
   A
   > real car
   > A A guy who appreciates what they are looking to buy, will
   > understand the
   > A A concepts of horsepower and what it can do. They will
   understand
   > the
   > A A dynamic difference between mashing the throttle down and
   easing
   > into
   > A A it. They will know and feel if the engine is operating
   > properly, if the
   > A A secondaries for example are working or not. This what you
   > discover by
   > A A properly vetting the buyer. > > It's a mid-engine car. Have
   > they driven
   > A A anything like that before? With horsepower? > What do they do
   > for a
   > A A living? What are their hobbies? What other cars do they own?
   > And more
   > A A ... > > The idea is to get comfortable with the buyer. If you
   > aren't
   > A A comfortable with the buyer.... they don't get to drive it,
   > until money
   > A A is in hand and the title has been signed. > > Just my
   thoughts.
   >> Asa
   > A A Jay > > > a-L-Asa Jay Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired >
   > Sent
   > A A using Jedi Mind Tricksa > > On Oct 2, 2018, 09:28, at 09:28,
   > The
   > A A DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6][11][12][13]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   > wrote: >> >> When
   > A A I bought my Pantera, The seller would not allow me to drive
   it.
   >>>>>
   > A A He said people could loose control of the car with its power.
   >>>>> At
   > A A the time I thought this was a little 'odd', but I still
   bought
   > the >>
   > A A car. >> >> Soon thereafter I found that he used the wrong
   carb
   > cable
   > A A bracket, and >> the secondaries were not opening. >> >> Yea,
   > the car
   > A A was a lot faster after that quick fix. >> >> Even if
   insurance
   > covers
   > A A the damage, there is still a loss in value >> with >> the car
   > now
   > A A having been in a wreck, minor as it may be. >> >> The driver
   > owes the
   > A A owner some money, like $10,000, part compensation >> and part
   > A A punishment. >> >> Few truly honest people out there... so
   this
   > won't
   > A A happen. >> >> I am 'hired' occasionally to drive specialty
   > cars. >> >>
   > A A This is to diagnose problems, provide my opinion, or to give
   > demo rides
   > A A >> to perspective buyers. >> >> I was even asked to drive Bob
   > Benson's
   > A A Blue Beast at the DeAnza Auto-X >> ... Just to heat up the
   > tires! >> >>
   > A A Now that was FUN! >> >> Chuck >> >> >>
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   > A A 3. [22]mailto:[20][21]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > A A 4. [23]mailto:[21][22]bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   > A A 5. [24]mailto:[22][23]asajay at asajay.com
   > A A 6. [25]mailto:[23][24]detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   > A A 7. [26]mailto:[24][25]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > A A 8.
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   > A A 9. [28]mailto:[26][27]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   > A 11. [30]mailto:[28][29]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   > 4. [37]mailto:[36]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 5. [38]mailto:[37]detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   > 6. [39]mailto:[38]pantera01826 at rogers.com
   > 7. [40]mailto:[39]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 8. [41]mailto:[40]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 9. [42]mailto:[41]bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   > 10. [43]mailto:[42]asajay at asajay.com
   > 11. [44]mailto:[43]detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   > 12. [45]mailto:[44]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 13. [45][46]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 14. [47]mailto:[46]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 15. [47][48]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 16. [49]mailto:[48]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 17. [49][50]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 18. [51]mailto:[50]pantera01826 at rogers.com
   > 19. [52]mailto:[51]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 20. [53]mailto:[52]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 21. [54]mailto:[53]bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   > 22. [55]mailto:[54]asajay at asajay.com
   > 23. [56]mailto:[55]detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   > 24. [57]mailto:[56]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 25. [57][58]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 26. [59]mailto:[58]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 27. [59][60]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 28. [61]mailto:[60]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > 29. [61][62]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   > 30. [63]mailto:[62]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   2. [70]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   3. [71]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   4. [72]mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   5. [73]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   6. [74]mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   7. [75]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   8. [76]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   9. [77]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   10. [78]mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   11. [79]mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   12. [80]mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   13. [81]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   19. [87]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
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   23. [91]mailto:asajay at asajay.com
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   38. [106]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
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   40. [108]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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   42. [110]mailto:asajay at asajay.com
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   1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   2. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   5. mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   7. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   8. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  10. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
  11. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  12. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  13. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
  14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  20. mailto:[18][19]pantera01826 at rogers.com?
  21. mailto:[19][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  22. mailto:[20][21]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
  23. mailto:[21][22]bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
  24. mailto:[22][23]asajay at asajay.com?
  25. mailto:[23][24]detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
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  27. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  28. mailto:[26][27]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  29. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  30. mailto:[28][29]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
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  32. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  33. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  34. mailto:[33]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  35. mailto:[34]pantera01826 at rogers.com?
  36. mailto:[35]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov?
  37. mailto:[36]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  38. mailto:[37]detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
  39. mailto:[38]pantera01826 at rogers.com?
  40. mailto:[39]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  41. mailto:[40]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
  42. mailto:[41]bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
  43. mailto:[42]asajay at asajay.com?
  44. mailto:[43]detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
  45. mailto:[44]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
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  50. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  51. mailto:[50]pantera01826 at rogers.com?
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  53. mailto:[52]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
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  55. mailto:[54]asajay at asajay.com?
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  69. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com?
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  71. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
  72. mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov?
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  74. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
  75. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
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  87. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
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  89. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
  90. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
  91. mailto:asajay at asajay.com?
  92. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
  93. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
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 100. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 101. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 102. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
 103. mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov?
 104. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 105. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
 106. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
 107. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 108. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
 109. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 110. mailto:asajay at asajay.com?
 111. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
 112. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 113. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 114. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
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 116. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 117. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 118. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
 119. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 120. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov?
 121. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com?
 122. mailto:asajay at asajay.com?
 123. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com?
 124. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 125. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 126. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 127. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 128. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 129. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 130. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 131. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 132. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 133. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
 134. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
 135. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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