[DeTomaso] Speedometer Repair Options?
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Mon Nov 26 16:41:53 EST 2018
Too cool Terry!
Jeff
6559
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:28 PM Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
> Are you the one in the maroon shirt?
>
> On 11/26/18, 12:20 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C) via
> DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> >Ok! Just got our first image back, shot thru the dust cover. The cover
> >hasn’t been ejected yet,
> >until the dust settles and we can deploy our solar arrays, and start
> >getting power.
> >
> >The spacecraft is going thru checkout now. It will take a few hours to
> >finish and deploy the solar
> >arrays. They can generate 700 watts on a clear day.
> >
> >Terry
> >
> >
> >
> >"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> >
> >Terry W. Himes
> >JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >Dawn Spacecraft Team
> >Juno Systems & Software Team
> >TGO Sequence Lead
> >Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >Cell: (818) 653-8213
> >thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >🇺🇸
> >
> >
> >On 11/26/18, 12:02 PM, "Michael Barnes"
> ><michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Congratulations and well done Terry, thanks for the link, very
> >exciting watch and look forward to updates .
> >
> > Sent from Michael's iPhone
> >
> > > On 26 Nov 2018, at 16:52, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso
> ><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks. We did TCM 6 yesterday. Very minor tweak.
> > >
> > > Turn your browers to https://www.jpl.nasa.gov or
> >https://www.nasa.gov to watch the landing live.
> > >
> > > Get in early as the servers might get crushed. Lots more TV
> >coverage than expected. (Who knew!!??)
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> > > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> > >
> > > Terry W. Himes
> > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> > > Dawn Spacecraft Team
> > > Juno Systems & Software Team
> > > TGO Sequence Lead
> > > Phone: (818) 393-6261
> > > Cell: (818) 653-8213
> > > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > > 🇺🇸
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/26/18, 8:48 AM, "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > Happy landings!
> > > Only 24K Miles to GO
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> >On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 14:09 PM
> > > To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; 'Steve'; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer Repair Options?
> > >
> > > NPC
> > >
> > > Speaking of which, we have completed our cruise calibrations of
> >all instruments on-board the InSight spacecraft.
> > > This weekend we did TCM 5 (Trajectory Correction Maneuver) to
> >hit our landing ellipse.
> > >
> > > https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
> > >
> > > Mars Landing is on Monday, Nov 26th.
> > > EDL: 26.Nov.2018 19:46:28 (2018-330T19:46:28) UTC
> > > 11:46:28 PST
> > >
> > > Point your browsers to https://www.nasa.gov OR
> > > https://www.jpl.nasa.gov both will have live streaming.
> >Get on early.
> > >
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> >stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> > >
> > > Terry W. Himes
> > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> > > Dawn Spacecraft Team
> > > Juno Systems & Software Team
> > > TGO Sequence Lead
> > > Phone: (818) 393-6261
> > > Cell: (818) 653-8213
> > > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > > 🇺🇸
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/19/18, 10:00 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of The DeTomaso
> >Registry Guy" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> >detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Yup! Long ago I learned verify the calibration of your
> >tools,
> > > BEFORE you use them to verify/validate anything else with
> >them.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > Round 'bout way Chuck is saying "Check everything and
> >anything you
> > > canbefore you put it back on the car". New thermostat?
> >Check it in a
> > > heated pan of water with a good thermometer.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DeTomaso
> >[mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> > > Of The DeTomaso Registry Guy
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 9:41 AM
> > > To: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> > > Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer Repair Options?
> > >
> > >
> > > Every long established business, even those with golden
> >reputations can make
> > > mistakes.
> > >
> > > PA Speedo is included.
> > >
> > > We were recently working on a vintage Jaguar, the
> >(mechanical coolant) temp
> > > gauge was problematic, and off it went to PA Speedo for
> >fix/calibration.
> > >
> > > When returned and installed, we found that it was not
> >accurate. We
> > > communicated with PA Speedo are were told they tested it,
> >fixed it,
> > > re-calibrated it, tested it, then shipped back to us.
> > >
> > > Shop time spent (~ $150/hour) diagnosing this old/new
> >failure.
> > >
> > > We spent some time with the sensor in a bucket of hot water,
> >next to both a
> > > digital thermometer (highly accurate) and another mechanical
> >gauge. The
> > > results did not compare to what PA Speedo stated. We called
> >them and
> > > verified what repairs they made, and how they verified the
> >results.
> > > We just could not repeat their findings. (Broken again or
> >still broken ?)
> > > Back it went.
> > >
> > > More shop time spent. The car owner (a 'space' engineer)
> >fully documented
> > > activities.
> > > After another round of calls to PA Speedo, and more shop
> >time spent, we
> > > finally learned that what we were previously told by PA
> >Speedo was um....
> > > not correct.
> > >
> > > OK blunt statement here... They lied to us about their
> >testing.
> > > They didn't test it, which they now 'sort of' admit. Rather
> >odd reply
> > > actually.
> > > So another round of pull it out and send to them, to wait
> >for re-delivery.
> > >
> > > Begin another round of test, adjust, validate, re-install,
> >final test in
> > > car...
> > >
> > > The final result is that the gauge is much less accurate in
> >the low, warm-up
> > > zone of the scale (below 50+ C) and seems to only be
> >accurate near 80-100 C.
> > >
> > > So even famous landmark businesses can fail their customers.
> >
> > > In this case lying about test results, which caused hours of
> >shop time, is
> > > just not OK, and is not acceptable, and worse that a bad
> >repair.
> > >
> > > This seemed more than accidental miss-communication, or
> >sloppy work, but
> > > intentional deceit.
> > > So the individual responsible should be fired.
> > >
> > > I do not know what PA Speedo did internally, but their
> >reputation was quite
> > > tarnished in our view.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > Yeah it's really amazing. They are in a beautiful old
> >building, a car
> > > workshop with an arched curved wooden roof with exposed
> >beams and skylights,
> > > right in the middle of downtown Palo Alto. It's like walking
> >into a time
> > > machine.
> > >
> > > They have a jillion parts from every kind of gauge you can
> >imagine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
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Too cool Terry!A
Jeff
6559
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:28 PM Larry Stock
<[1]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
Are you the one in the maroon shirt?
On 11/26/18, 12:20 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C)
via
DeTomaso" <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>Ok!A Just got our first image back, shot thru the dust cover. The
cover
>hasnat been ejected yet,
>until the dust settles and we can deploy our solar arrays, and
start
>getting power.
>
>The spacecraft is going thru checkout now.A It will take a few
hours to
>finish and deploy the solar
>arrays. They can generate 700 watts on a clear day.
>
>Terry
>
>
>
>"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
>Terry W. Himes
>JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>Dawn Spacecraft Team
>Juno Systems & Software Team
>TGO Sequence Lead
>Phone: (818) 393-6261
>Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
>[4]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>d--od-,
>
>
>i>>?On 11/26/18, 12:02 PM, "Michael Barnes"
><[5]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>A A Congratulations and well done Terry, thanks for the link,
very
>exciting watch and look forward to updates .
>A A
>A A Sent from Michael's iPhone
>A A
>A A > On 26 Nov 2018, at 16:52, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso
><[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>A A >
>A A > Thanks.A We did TCM 6 yesterday.A Very minor tweak.
>A A >
>A A > Turn your browers to [7]https://www.jpl.nasa.govA A or
>[8]https://www.nasa.govA to watch the landing live.
>A A >
>A A > Get in early as the servers might get crushed.A Lots more
TV
>coverage than expected.A (Who knew!!??)
>A A >
>A A > Terry
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >
>A A > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
>A A > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>A A >
>A A > Terry W. Himes
>A A > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>A A > Dawn Spacecraft Team
>A A > Juno Systems & Software Team
>A A > TGO Sequence Lead
>A A > Phone: (818) 393-6261
>A A > Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
>A A > [9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>A A > d--od-,
>A A >
>A A >
>A A > On 11/26/18, 8:48 AM, "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
<[10]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>wrote:
>A A >
>A A >A A Happy landings!
>A A >A A Only 24K Miles to GO
>A A >
>A A >A A -----Original Message-----
>A A >A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso
>A A >A A Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 14:09 PM
>A A >A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; 'Steve'; 'List DeTomaso
Forum'
>A A >A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer Repair Options?
>A A >
>A A >A A NPC
>A A >
>A A >A A Speaking of which, we have completed our cruise
calibrations of
>all instruments on-board the InSight spacecraft.
>A A >A A This weekend we did TCM 5 (Trajectory Correction
Maneuver) to
>hit our landing ellipse.
>A A >
>A A >A A [12]https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
>A A >
>A A >A A Mars Landing is on Monday, Nov 26th.
>A A >A A EDL:A A A A A 26.Nov.2018A A 19:46:28A
(2018-330T19:46:28) UTC
>A A >A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
A A A A 11:46:28 PST
>A A >
>A A >A A Point your browsers to [13]https://www.nasa.govA A
A OR
>A A >A A [14]https://www.jpl.nasa.govA A A both will have
live streaming.
>Get on early.
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A Terry
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch
a plan,
>stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>A A >
>A A >A A Terry W. Himes
>A A >A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>A A >A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
>A A >A A Juno Systems & Software Team
>A A >A A TGO Sequence Lead
>A A >A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
>A A >A A Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
>A A >A A [15]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>A A >A A d--od-,
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A On 11/19/18, 10:00 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of The
DeTomaso
>Registry Guy" <[16]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on
behalf of
>[17]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Yup!A Long ago I learned verify the calibration
of your
>tools,
>A A >A A A A BEFORE you use them to verify/validate anything
else with
>them.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Chuck
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Round 'bout way Chuck is saying "Check
everythingA and
>anything you
>A A >A A A A canbefore you put it back on the car".A New
thermostat?
>Check it in a
>A A >A A A A heated pan of water with a good thermometer.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Stephen
>A A >
>A A >A A A A -----Original Message-----
>A A >A A A A From: DeTomaso
>[mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
>A A >A A A A Of The DeTomaso Registry Guy
>A A >A A A A Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 9:41 AM
>A A >A A A A To: 'Mike Drew' <[19]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>A A >A A A A Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
<[20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>A A >A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer Repair
Options?
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Every long established business, even those with
golden
>reputations can make
>A A >A A A A mistakes.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A PA Speedo is included.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A We were recently working on a vintage Jaguar,
the
>(mechanical coolant) temp
>A A >A A A A gauge was problematic, and off it went to PA
Speedo for
>fix/calibration.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A When returned and installed, we found that it
was not
>accurate.A We
>A A >A A A A communicated with PA Speedo are were told they
tested it,
>fixed it,
>A A >A A A A re-calibrated it, tested it, then shipped back
to us.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Shop time spent (~ $150/hour) diagnosing this
old/new
>failure.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A We spent some time with the sensor in a bucket
of hot water,
>next to both a
>A A >A A A A digital thermometer (highly accurate) and
another mechanical
>gauge.A The
>A A >A A A A results did not compare to what PA Speedo
stated.A We called
>them and
>A A >A A A A verified what repairs they made, and how they
verified the
>results.
>A A >A A A A We just could not repeat their findings. (Broken
again or
>still broken ?)
>A A >A A A A Back it went.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A More shop time spent.A The car owner (a 'space'
engineer)
>fully documented
>A A >A A A A activities.
>A A >A A A A After another round of calls to PA Speedo, and
more shop
>time spent, we
>A A >A A A A finally learned that what we were previously
told by PA
>Speedo was um....
>A A >A A A A not correct.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A OK blunt statement here... They lied to us about
their
>testing.A
>A A >A A A A They didn't test it, which they now 'sort of'
admit.A Rather
>odd reply
>A A >A A A A actually.
>A A >A A A A So another round of pull it out and send to
them, to wait
>for re-delivery.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Begin another round of test, adjust, validate,
re-install,
>final test in
>A A >A A A A car...
>A A >
>A A >A A A A The final result is that the gauge is much less
accurate in
>the low, warm-up
>A A >A A A A zone of the scale (below 50+ C) and seems to
only be
>accurate near 80-100 C.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A So even famous landmark businesses can fail
their customers.
>
>A A >A A A A In this case lying about test results, which
caused hours of
>shop time, is
>A A >A A A A just not OK, and is not acceptable, and worse
that a bad
>repair.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A This seemed more than accidental
miss-communication, or
>sloppy work, but
>A A >A A A A intentional deceit.
>A A >A A A A So the individual responsible should be fired.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A I do not know what PA Speedo did internally, but
their
>reputation was quite
>A A >A A A A tarnished in our view.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Chuck
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Jim,
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Yeah it's really amazing. They are in a
beautiful old
>building, a car
>A A >A A A A workshop with an arched curved wooden roof with
exposed
>beams and skylights,
>A A >A A A A right in the middle of downtown Palo Alto. It's
like walking
>into a time
>A A >A A A A machine.
>A A >
>A A >A A A A They have a jillion parts from every kind of
gauge you can
>imagine.
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >
>A A >A A A A Mike
>A A >
>A A >
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