[DeTomaso] headlights
Steve
steve at snclocks.com
Sat Nov 10 23:09:15 EST 2018
I have Kirk Evans European-style lights – takes just over a second to go up or down… Really, pretty quickly.
From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:09 PM
To: Steve <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Scott Mead Photography' <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>; 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlights
What constitutes "raised nicely"? 2 or 3 seconds?
I'm not sure how many amps the headlights pull, maybe not much???
You could add a separate switch to raise and lower the lights, so the headlights are not sucking current?
I suppose you could add a circuit that keeps the light off when the motor is on? Maybe a relay in series with the power going to the motor that cuts the power to the lights?
Ken
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlights
When we went through the headlight mechanism I found that one of the field magnets in the motor had come lose and was up against the other magnet - which is not going to help the motor work well. I JB welded the magnet back where it belonged and headlights raise nicely.
Stephen 5332
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlights
If you haven’t done it already, I found swapping the gear from the factory plastic to bronze (plus liberal lubrication) made a huge difference in raise/lowering speed (it’s the same one used for the windows). Rob D’Orazio installed linear actuators for his headlamps, and it’s not only quick, but enabled him to delete the headlamp rotational bar, which makes accessing the radiator a lot easier.
Sometime in the early ‘80s, the headlights on my dad’s Pantera slowed wayyyyy down. I remember he replaced the motor, and the lights would raise in half the time. Evidently the motors aren’t sealed well from the elements, and umpteen years of dirt/heat/moisture can really take its toll - not to mention you can use an egg timer to measure the speed.
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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> I have never considered the time for the lights to raise an issue,
> maybe if you have a lot of tunnels with a quick transition from day to
> dark in your area it could be a help? But I'd think a spring may only
> be a band aid to help a tired or weak motor, then it has to work a lot
> harder against the spring to close them again.
>
> I have heard of the motor being swapped out for a linear actuator.
>
> Julian
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> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:40 PM
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] headlights
>
> Has anyone tried or thought about adding a spring to the front
> headlights.
> A spring to assist the raising of the headlight would make it way
> faster
> for the motor to bring them up.
> Rich
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I have Kirk Evans European-style lights - takes just over a second to
go up or down... Really, pretty quickly.
From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:09 PM
To: Steve <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Scott Mead Photography'
<scott at scottmeadphotography.com>; 'Julian Kift'
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com; 'Rich Hoppe' <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlights
What constitutes "raised nicely"? 2 or 3 seconds?
I'm not sure how many amps the headlights pull, maybe not much???
You could add a separate switch to raise and lower the lights, so the
headlights are not sucking current?
I suppose you could add a circuit that keeps the light off when the
motor is on? Maybe a relay in series with the power going to the motor
that cuts the power to the lights?
Ken
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From: Steve <[1]steve at snclocks.com>
To: 'Scott Mead Photography' <[2]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>;
'Julian Kift' <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: [4]detomaso at detomasolist.com; 'Rich Hoppe'
<[5]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlights
When we went through the headlight mechanism I found that one of the
field magnets in the motor had come lose and was up against the other
magnet - which is not going to help the motor work well. I JB welded
the magnet back where it belonged and headlights raise nicely.
Stephen 5332
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Mead Photography
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:26 PM
To: Julian Kift <[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: [8]detomaso at detomasolist.com; Rich Hoppe <[9]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlights
If you haven't done it already, I found swapping the gear from the
factory plastic to bronze (plus liberal lubrication) made a huge
difference in raise/lowering speed (it's the same one used for the
windows). Rob D'Orazio installed linear actuators for his headlamps,
and it's not only quick, but enabled him to delete the headlamp
rotational bar, which makes accessing the radiator a lot easier.
Sometime in the early `80s, the headlights on my dad's Pantera slowed
wayyyyy down. I remember he replaced the motor, and the lights would
raise in half the time. Evidently the motors aren't sealed well from
the elements, and umpteen years of dirt/heat/moisture can really take
its toll - not to mention you can use an egg timer to measure the
speed.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 10, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Julian Kift
<[10]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have never considered the time for the lights to raise an issue,
> maybe if you have a lot of tunnels with a quick transition from day
to
> dark in your area it could be a help? But I'd think a spring may
only
> be a band aid to help a tired or weak motor, then it has to work a
lot
> harder against the spring to close them again.
>
> I have heard of the motor being swapped out for a linear actuator.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <[11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
> Rich Hoppe <[12]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:40 PM
> To: [13]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] headlights
>
> Has anyone tried or thought about adding a spring to the front
> headlights.
> A spring to assist the raising of the headlight would make it way
> faster
> for the motor to bring them up.
> Rich
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