[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 167, Issue 33
laurieferrari
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Wed May 30 12:12:43 EDT 2018
You Drewastered your own car this time?
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: converting to factory ZF side mounts (Rob Dumoulin)
2. Road to Monterey - Festa 2018 (Ed Mendez)
3. Mysterious ?China-wall? gap (Larry Finch)
4. Re: Road to Monterey - Festa 2018 (Mike Drew)
5. Re: Mysterious ?China-wall? gap (Julian Kift)
6. Re: ?Best? Holley carb for my new stroker? (jderyke at aol.com)
7. Re: Mysterious ?China-wall? gap (jderyke at aol.com)
8. Mysterious manifold gap- explained (Larry Finch)
9. Forza Registration (Ed Mendez)
10. Re: converting to factory ZF side mounts (Espen Graffer)
11. NPC: Wives and Fast Cars - This is a hoot
(Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
12. Who supplies the funds to keep this list online? (Larry Finch)
13. Re: Who supplies the funds to keep this list online?
(Asa Jay Laughton)
14. Re: Who supplies the funds to keep this list online?
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 12:40:07 -0400
From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "espeng at getmail.no"
<espeng at getmail.no>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] converting to factory ZF side mounts
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When I got 1488, the rear condenser was removed, so I ordered a complete
fan, shroud, and condenser from a vendor. When I went to install it, I
found the rear mounts for the ZF were in the way of a proper fit. The
vendor mentioned that I would need to update the mounts to side mounts and
that by doing so would also help eliminate clutch chatter. I would tell
you which vendor it was, but to be honest, I do not remember for sure which
one of two and I do not want to give false information.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Maybe the two side mounts add some chassis stiffening?
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: "espeng at getmail.no" <espeng at getmail.no>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Cc: espeng at getmail.no
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] converting to factory ZF side mounts
> Ahh, I see. That makes sense.
> Normally there is no need for A/C here in Norway, so mine is removed.
> Espen
> ----- Opprinnelig melding -----
> Espen,
> Yes, the rear mount is likely more than sufficient.
> In my case, however, an upgraded air conditioning condenser required me
> to abandon the rear mount and I have been using another side mount
> supplied by a vendor.
> I just wanted something that looked a little bit nicer, and as most
> other owners, I am cursed with the constant need to change and upgrade
> my car. ;-)
> Larry
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When I got 1488, the rear condenser was removed, so I ordered a
complete fan, shroud, and condenser from a vendor.A When I went to
install it, I found the rear mounts for the ZF were in the way of a
proper fit.A The vendor mentioned that I would need to update the
mounts to side mounts and that by doing so would also help eliminate
clutch chatter.A I would tell you which vendor it was, but to be
honest, I do not remember for sure which one of two and I do not want
to give false information.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1]rob at dumoulins.net
[2]www.kbsi.co
[3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
<[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A Maybe the two side mounts add some chassis stiffening?
A A Ken
A A A ____________________________________________________________
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A A From: "[5]espeng at getmail.no" <[6]espeng at getmail.no>
A A To: [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Cc: [8]espeng at getmail.no
A A Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 10:39 PM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] converting to factory ZF side mounts
A A Ahh, I see. That makes sense.
A A Normally there is no need for A/C here in Norway, so mine is
removed.
A A Espen
A A ----- Opprinnelig melding -----
A A Espen,
A A Yes, the rear mount is likely more than sufficient.
A A In my case, however, an upgraded air conditioning condenser
required me
A A to abandon the rear mount and I have been using another side
mount
A A supplied by a vendor.
A A I just wanted something that looked a little bit nicer, and as
most
A A other owners, I am cursed with the constant need to change and
upgrade
A A my car. ;-)
A A Larry
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:03:31 -0700
From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Road to Monterey - Festa 2018
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:23:20 -0700
From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mysterious ?China-wall? gap
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All,
I checked on the assembly of my 404 stroker Cleveland last week, and there is an assembly issue that neither me, my builder or others I have spoken with can explain.
The block is an iron four bolt version bored 10-over. The heads are new, out of the box CHI 4V aluminum and the intake is a new, out of the box blue thunder Pantera version.
Both the front and rear China-wall gaps, between the block and the intake, are approximately 1/4 inch wide, perhaps even a little bit more.
All the intake manifold bolts dropped into their respective threaded holes slick as butter.
Assembly of the manifold used the cork gaskets and additional RTV to completely close the gap.
No one seems to have an explanation as to why this gap is so large.
Has anyone ever come across something similar, or have any input that might explain this?
As always, thanks,
Larry
Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:41:04 -0700
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
Cc: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road to Monterey - Festa 2018
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Ed,
Looks good! We had hoped to take my car but my clutch master cylinder (original factory item installed in 1993 or so) just took a dump. So we are taking Lori's car instead. Probably avoiding traffic and coming down later Wednesday night. See you and everybody there!
Mike
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:53:16 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>,
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mysterious ?China-wall? gap
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Larry,
The fact all the intake bolts dropped in is perhaps not the correct measure as you are talking about vertical distance of the manifold and seating on the heads creating the gap, may be of more importance is what gaskets you are using for heads and intake? Are you using a turkey tray?
Julian
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:23 AM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mysterious ?China-wall? gap
All,
I checked on the assembly of my 404 stroker Cleveland last week, and there is an assembly issue that neither me, my builder or others I have spoken with can explain.
The block is an iron four bolt version bored 10-over. The heads are new, out of the box CHI 4V aluminum and the intake is a new, out of the box blue thunder Pantera version.
Both the front and rear China-wall gaps, between the block and the intake, are approximately 1/4 inch wide, perhaps even a little bit more.
All the intake manifold bolts dropped into their respective threaded holes slick as butter.
Assembly of the manifold used the cork gaskets and additional RTV to completely close the gap.
No one seems to have an explanation as to why this gap is so large.
Has anyone ever come across something similar, or have any input that might explain this?
As always, thanks,
Larry
Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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Larry,
The fact all the intake bolts dropped in is perhaps not the correct
measure as you are talking about vertical distance of the manifold and
seating on the heads creating the gap, may be of more importance is
what gaskets you are using for heads and intake? Are you using a turkey
tray?
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:23 AM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mysterious `China-wall' gap
All,
I checked on the assembly of my 404 stroker Cleveland last week, and
there is an assembly issue that neither me, my builder or others I have
spoken with can explain.
The block is an iron four bolt version bored 10-over. The heads are
new, out of the box CHI 4V aluminum and the intake is a new, out of the
box blue thunder Pantera version.
Both the front and rear China-wall gaps, between the block and the
intake, are approximately 1/4 inch wide, perhaps even a little bit
more.
All the intake manifold bolts dropped into their respective threaded
holes slick as butter.
Assembly of the manifold used the cork gaskets and additional RTV to
completely close the gap.
No one seems to have an explanation as to why this gap is so large.
Has anyone ever come across something similar, or have any input that
might explain this?
As always, thanks,
Larry
Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:08:39 -0400
From: jderyke at aol.com
To: fresnofinches at aol.com, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ?Best? Holley carb for my new stroker?
Message-ID: <163ad84502a-c8d-1c686 at webjas-vad207.srv.aolmail.net>
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I've been using one of Larry Stocks 'tuner' carbs on our Pantera for decdes. Its a Holley 700 double-pumper by Quick-Fuel. There were a dozen or so changes expertly done by QF to make the double pumper run properly on a Cleveland-Pantera. Normally, double pumpers are set up quite rich out of the box. The first trip we took I got enough power to break the 275-55 rear tires loose in 3rd plus 21 mpg at 'somewhat' illegal speeds to 'Vegas & back. That convinced me to use the same carb on a basket case I'd been trying to get running properly thru the whole rev range & discard the 'emissions' Holley it came with. No complaints from either car today. Tuner carbs are slightly more expensive than an E-Bay Holley but well worth it if you actually drive your car and care about mileage & power.
YMMV- J DeRyke.
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I've been using one of Larry Stocks 'tuner' carbs on our Pantera for
decdes. Its a Holley 700 double-pumper by Quick-Fuel. There were a
dozen or so changes expertly done by QF to make the double pumper run
properly on a Cleveland-Pantera. Normally, double pumpers are set up
quite rich out of the box. The first trip we took I got enough power to
break the 275-55 rear tires loose in 3rd plus 21 mpg at 'somewhat'
illegal speeds to 'Vegas & back. That convinced me to use the same carb
on a basket case I'd been trying to get running properly thru the whole
rev range & discard the 'emissions' Holley it came with. No complaints
from either car today. Tuner carbs are slightly more expensive than an
E-Bay Holley but well worth it if you actually drive your car and care
about mileage & power.
YMMV- J DeRyke.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:19:31 -0400
From: jderyke at aol.com
To: fresnofinches at aol.com, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
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You Drewastered your own car this time?
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Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 167, Issue 33
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Daily Detomaso List Digest
Today's Topics:
1. Re: converting to factory ZF side mounts (Rob Dumoulin)
2. Road to Monterey - Festa 2018 (Ed Mendez)
3. Mysterious ?China-wall? gap (Larry Finch)
4. Re: Road to Monterey - Festa 2018 (Mike Drew)
5. Re: Mysterious ?China-wall? gap (Julian Kift)
6. Re: ?Best? Holley carb for my new stroker? (jderyke at aol.com)
7. Re: Mysterious ?China-wall? gap (jderyke at aol.com)
8. Mysterious manifold gap- explained (Larry Finch)
9. Forza Registration (Ed Mendez)
10. Re: converting to factory ZF side mounts (Espen Graffer)
11. NPC: Wives and Fast Cars - This is a hoot
(Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
12. Who supplies the funds to keep this list online? (Larry Finch)
13. Re: Who supplies the funds to keep this list online?
(Asa Jay Laughton)
14. Re: Who supplies the funds to keep this list online?
(Himes, Terry (397C))
15. Re: Who supplies the funds to keep this list online?
(Himes, Terry (397C))
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 12:40:07 -0400
From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "espeng at getmail.no"
<espeng at getmail.no>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] converting to factory ZF side mounts
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When I got 1488, the rear condenser was removed, so I ordered a
complete
fan, shroud, and condenser from a vendor. When I went to install it, I
found the rear mounts for the ZF were in the way of a proper fit. The
vendor mentioned that I would need to update the mounts to side mounts
and
that by doing so would also help eliminate clutch chatter. I would
tell
you which vendor it was, but to be honest, I do not remember for sure
which
one of two and I do not want to give false information.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Maybe the two side mounts add some chassis stiffening?
> Ken
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: "espeng at getmail.no" <espeng at getmail.no>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Cc: espeng at getmail.no
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] converting to factory ZF side mounts
> Ahh, I see. That makes sense.
> Normally there is no need for A/C here in Norway, so mine is
removed.
> Espen
> ----- Opprinnelig melding -----
> Espen,
> Yes, the rear mount is likely more than sufficient.
> In my case, however, an upgraded air conditioning condenser
required me
> to abandon the rear mount and I have been using another side mount
> supplied by a vendor.
> I just wanted something that looked a little bit nicer, and as
most
> other owners, I am cursed with the constant need to change and
upgrade
> my car. ;-)
> Larry
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When I got 1488, the rear condenser was removed, so I ordered a
complete fan, shroud, and condenser from a vendor.A When I went to
install it, I found the rear mounts for the ZF were in the way of a
proper fit.A The vendor mentioned that I would need to update the
mounts to side mounts and that by doing so would also help eliminate
clutch chatter.A I would tell you which vendor it was, but to be
honest, I do not remember for sure which one of two and I do not
want
to give false information.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1]rob at dumoulins.net
[2]www.kbsi.co
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On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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A A Maybe the two side mounts add some chassis stiffening?
A A Ken
A A A
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A A From: "[5]espeng at getmail.no" <[6]espeng at getmail.no>
A A To: [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Cc: [8]espeng at getmail.no
A A Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 10:39 PM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] converting to factory ZF side mounts
A A Ahh, I see. That makes sense.
A A Normally there is no need for A/C here in Norway, so mine is
removed.
A A Espen
A A ----- Opprinnelig melding -----
A A Espen,
A A Yes, the rear mount is likely more than sufficient.
A A In my case, however, an upgraded air conditioning condenser
required me
A A to abandon the rear mount and I have been using another side
mount
A A supplied by a vendor.
A A I just wanted something that looked a little bit nicer, and
as
most
A A other owners, I am cursed with the constant need to change
and
upgrade
A A my car. ;-)
A A Larry
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:03:31 -0700
From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Road to Monterey - Festa 2018
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:23:20 -0700
From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mysterious ?China-wall? gap
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All,
I checked on the assembly of my 404 stroker Cleveland last week, and
there is an assembly issue that neither me, my builder or others I have
spoken with can explain.
The block is an iron four bolt version bored 10-over. The heads are
new, out of the box CHI 4V aluminum and the intake is a new, out of the
box blue thunder Pantera version.
Both the front and rear China-wall gaps, between the block and the
intake, are approximately 1/4 inch wide, perhaps even a little bit
more.
All the intake manifold bolts dropped into their respective threaded
holes slick as butter.
Assembly of the manifold used the cork gaskets and additional RTV to
completely close the gap.
No one seems to have an explanation as to why this gap is so large.
Has anyone ever come across something similar, or have any input that
might explain this?
As always, thanks,
Larry
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:41:04 -0700
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
Cc: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road to Monterey - Festa 2018
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Ed,
Looks good! We had hoped to take my car but my clutch master cylinder
(original factory item installed in 1993 or so) just took a dump. So we
are taking Lori's car instead. Probably avoiding traffic and coming
down later Wednesday night. See you and everybody there!
Mike
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 19:53:16 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>,
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mysterious ?China-wall? gap
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Larry,
The fact all the intake bolts dropped in is perhaps not the correct
measure as you are talking about vertical distance of the manifold and
seating on the heads creating the gap, may be of more importance is
what gaskets you are using for heads and intake? Are you using a turkey
tray?
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:23 AM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mysterious ?China-wall? gap
All,
I checked on the assembly of my 404 stroker Cleveland last week, and
there is an assembly issue that neither me, my builder or others I have
spoken with can explain.
The block is an iron four bolt version bored 10-over. The heads are
new, out of the box CHI 4V aluminum and the intake is a new, out of the
box blue thunder Pantera version.
Both the front and rear China-wall gaps, between the block and the
intake, are approximately 1/4 inch wide, perhaps even a little bit
more.
All the intake manifold bolts dropped into their respective threaded
holes slick as butter.
Assembly of the manifold used the cork gaskets and additional RTV to
completely close the gap.
No one seems to have an explanation as to why this gap is so large.
Has anyone ever come across something similar, or have any input that
might explain this?
As always, thanks,
Larry
Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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Larry,
The fact all the intake bolts dropped in is perhaps not the correct
measure as you are talking about vertical distance of the manifold
and
seating on the heads creating the gap, may be of more importance is
what gaskets you are using for heads and intake? Are you using a
turkey
tray?
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:23 AM
To: Email List Address For Posting
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mysterious `China-wall' gap
All,
I checked on the assembly of my 404 stroker Cleveland last week, and
there is an assembly issue that neither me, my builder or others I
have
spoken with can explain.
The block is an iron four bolt version bored 10-over. The heads are
new, out of the box CHI 4V aluminum and the intake is a new, out of
the
box blue thunder Pantera version.
Both the front and rear China-wall gaps, between the block and the
intake, are approximately 1/4 inch wide, perhaps even a little bit
more.
All the intake manifold bolts dropped into their respective threaded
holes slick as butter.
Assembly of the manifold used the cork gaskets and additional RTV to
completely close the gap.
No one seems to have an explanation as to why this gap is so large.
Has anyone ever come across something similar, or have any input
that
might explain this?
As always, thanks,
Larry
Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:08:39 -0400
From: jderyke at aol.com
To: fresnofinches at aol.com, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ?Best? Holley carb for my new stroker?
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I've been using one of Larry Stocks 'tuner' carbs on our Pantera for
decdes. Its a Holley 700 double-pumper by Quick-Fuel. There were a
dozen or so changes expertly done by QF to make the double pumper run
properly on a Cleveland-Pantera. Normally, double pumpers are set up
quite rich out of the box. The first trip we took I got enough power to
break the 275-55 rear tires loose in 3rd plus 21 mpg at 'somewhat'
illegal speeds to 'Vegas & back. That convinced me to use the same carb
on a basket case I'd been trying to get running properly thru the whole
rev range & discard the 'emissions' Holley it came with. No complaints
from either car today. Tuner carbs are slightly more expensive than an
E-Bay Holley but well worth it if you actually drive your car and care
about mileage & power.
YMMV- J DeRyke.
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I've been using one of Larry Stocks 'tuner' carbs on our Pantera for
decdes. Its a Holley 700 double-pumper by Quick-Fuel. There were a
dozen or so changes expertly done by QF to make the double pumper
run
properly on a Cleveland-Pantera. Normally, double pumpers are set up
quite rich out of the box. The first trip we took I got enough power
to
break the 275-55 rear tires loose in 3rd plus 21 mpg at 'somewhat'
illegal speeds to 'Vegas & back. That convinced me to use the same
carb
on a basket case I'd been trying to get running properly thru the
whole
rev range & discard the 'emissions' Holley it came with. No
complaints
from either car today. Tuner carbs are slightly more expensive than
an
E-Bay Holley but well worth it if you actually drive your car and
care
about mileage & power.
YMMV- J DeRyke.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:19:31 -0400
From: jderyke at aol.com
To: fresnofinches at aol.com, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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