[DeTomaso] "Original Pantera" on ebay

Tony Blevins fun_tonyb at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 21 00:06:35 EDT 2018 

Quick but interesting update on this story in case  anyone is interested.


I met the owner of subject car at the Palm Event in West Palm Beach on Sunday.  He's an investor, former model, artist, restauranteur... you name it.  He goes only by 'ELO" kinda like Madonna.

Anyway, he has already bought another Pantera but doesn't claim to be any kind of expert so I don't think he in anyway purposefully falsified the ad.  He's probably just passing along what he was told as already mentioned.

Some interesting info in his place below:  You eat at a car museum ?
http://www.miamisupercarrooms.com/about/
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Miami | About<http://www.miamisupercarrooms.com/about/>
www.miamisupercarrooms.com
Elo has loved cars since he was a child and uses his mechanical and design skills to create unique vehicles. His customizations are second to none and clients from ...

After the show on Sunday, he was off to check out a multi-million $ rare racing Maserati.  He flew in a mechanic and inspector from Italy to check it out for him...Evidently he's learning not to take what a seller tells him at face value ???

Another interesting tidbit, a DeTomaso United Event is being planned this fall in South Fla and he told me that he'd gladly fly Santiago DeTomaso in for it as it seems they are pals...

Small world.

Tony


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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Original Pantera" on ebay

How do standards on cars help ignorance on the part of sellers/owners?


The car was advertised at $45K Oct 2014 at South Beach Classics, I think that's the guy on the reality TV show. If you've seen that show then the now owner probably believed everything he was told at the time and just sat on it as an investment.


Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:30 PM
To: DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] "Original Pantera" on ebay

This is why I think some standards would help:
1972 De Tomaso Pantera | eBay

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1972 De Tomaso Pantera | eBay
 For sale is my beloved Detomaso pantera. This car has neen part of my collection for several years now and now i...  |   |

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The seller says:
The car is all original  original matching engine. original interior and also even still have the sideway radio which was a main feature on this cars when they were built. it has a 5 speed manual transmision which came with the car from factory this was a huge upgrade at that time. The car is solid with no rust on chassis and bodywork. There are a few bubbles under the paint but nothing serious. will need a good paint job to make it perfect.
The car is clearly not original, the front bumper and mirrors, and maybe color???  Painted wheels??? And it has 5 speed which was a "huge upgrade" from the factory.  The air cleaner, valve covers, fluid lines, etc are not original.  And has bubbles in the paint, but no rust???  I can just imagine how much could be spent on rust repair on this car from Miami, with all that great salt air.
I suggest that cars advertised like this are what kill any hope of respect for Panteras.
Seller also has issues with grammar and spelling, are you kidding me?????
Ken
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   Quick but interesting update on this story in case  anyone is
   interested.

   I met the owner of subject car at the Palm Event in West Palm Beach on
   Sunday.  He's an investor, former model, artist, restauranteur... you
   name it.  He goes only by 'ELO" kinda like Madonna.
   Anyway, he has already bought another Pantera but doesn't claim to be
   any kind of expert so I don't think he in anyway purposefully falsified
   the ad.  He's probably just passing along what he was told as already
   mentioned.
   Some interesting info in his place below:  You eat at a car museum ?
   [1]http://www.miamisupercarrooms.com/about/
   [2][blank.jpg]
   [3]Miami | About
   www.miamisupercarrooms.com
   Elo has loved cars since he was a child and uses his mechanical and
   design skills to create unique vehicles. His customizations are second
   to none and clients from ...
   After the show on Sunday, he was off to check out a multi-million $
   rare racing Maserati.  He flew in a mechanic and inspector from Italy
   to check it out for him...Evidently he's learning not to take what a
   seller tells him at face value ???
   Another interesting tidbit, a DeTomaso United Event is being planned
   this fall in South Fla and he told me that he'd gladly fly Santiago
   DeTomaso in for it as it seems they are pals...
   Small world.
   Tony
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:54 PM
   To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Original Pantera" on ebay

   How do standards on cars help ignorance on the part of sellers/owners?
   The car was advertised at $45K Oct 2014 at South Beach Classics, I
   think that's the guy on the reality TV show. If you've seen that show
   then the now owner probably believed everything he was told at the time
   and just sat on it as an investment.
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:30 PM
   To: DeTomaso Mail List
   Subject: [DeTomaso] "Original Pantera" on ebay
   This is why I think some standards would help:
   1972 De Tomaso Pantera | eBay
   |
   |
   |
   |   $ 114950.0   |    |
      |
     |
   |
   |    |
   1972 De Tomaso Pantera | eBay
    For sale is my beloved Detomaso pantera. This car has neen part of my
   collection for several years now and now i...  |   |
     |
     |
   The seller says:
   The car is all original  original matching engine. original interior
   and also even still have the sideway radio which was a main feature on
   this cars when they were built. it has a 5 speed manual transmision
   which came with the car from factory this was a huge upgrade at that
   time. The car is solid with no rust on chassis and bodywork. There are
   a few bubbles under the paint but nothing serious. will need a good
   paint job to make it perfect.
   The car is clearly not original, the front bumper and mirrors, and
   maybe color???  Painted wheels??? And it has 5 speed which was a "huge
   upgrade" from the factory.  The air cleaner, valve covers, fluid lines,
   etc are not original.  And has bubbles in the paint, but no rust???  I
   can just imagine how much could be spent on rust repair on this car
   from Miami, with all that great salt air.
   I suggest that cars advertised like this are what kill any hope of
   respect for Panteras.
   Seller also has issues with grammar and spelling, are you kidding
   me?????
   Ken

References

   1. http://www.miamisupercarrooms.com/about/
   2. http://www.miamisupercarrooms.com/about/
   3. http://www.miamisupercarrooms.com/about/

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