[DeTomaso] Misdiagnosing an oil pressure issue
Forest Goodhart
forestg at att.net
Sun Mar 18 00:27:40 EDT 2018
Mike,I think you missed the part where he said he got a new deep pan.
From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: spkorb at gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Misdiagnosing an oil pressure issue
Sean,
Good story! But if you went through all the work to remove the stock oil pan, and then just put it back instead of installing a quality pan like and Aviaid or Armando pan, well....
Then I think your self-assessment is correct. :) :) :)
Speaking of dumbassery, yesterday after rebuilding my frozen heater valve, I installed it and hooked up new heater hoses and prepared to have a functioning heater for the first time in 29 years.
I had thought long and hard about all the things I was going to do to make sure the pipes and heater core were free of debris. I thought SO long and hard about it that I became convinced that I had actually done it!
So in my excitement I hooked everything up, filled the cooling system and tested it. It blew lukewarm for a minute and then blew cold. Feeling the heater hoses, they were room temperature too.
Zero water flow. Then I realized I never cleaned out the 30 years of gick that are probably in there. So now I have to tear the system down and try to clean it all out and get it to work properly. It would have been so easy when the engine was out just a few weeks ago.
Yes, I am a dumbass!!!!!
Mike
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> On Mar 17, 2018, at 19:07, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Years ago, I noticed in right hand turns my oil pressure would suddenly
> drop.A It was alarming so I took right hand turns very slowly.A
> Sometimes it would drop in left hand turns too.
> I didn't know if I had safety wires for my -1 ZF ring gear and I had
> stock 2 piece valves so I thought it was a good time to do some
> familiar maintenance.A I thought extreme measures were called for so I
> even got a deep pan to install.
> ZF turned out to already be safety wired.A Yay.A The old pan came off
> and wow!A All the valve seals had disintegrated and settled in the
> pan!A Problem solved!A I cleaned it out and ran solvent through all
> the galleys and block, installed the pan and put rebuilt heads on and
> painted the block.
> I had the same problem in left and right hand turns.A And it was
> getting worse!A I assumed I had missed a few flakes of valve seal and
> I was going to have to take the motor out again.
> One day I started it up and had no oil pressure at all!A It did
> eventually come back but I did discover some other odd problems had
> been mounting and wiggling the fuses helped.A I wire brushed them (a
> little copper wire brush) and it helped but I still had some trouble.A
> I noticed some of the rivets were loose so I set them with a wide awl
> struck with a hammer.A That tightened them up, my lights and
> instruments seemed more reliable and I went about my business.
> I had some long left and right hand sweepers today on the way to a car
> show and I noticed the pressure did not drop the entire drive.A It's
> been years since I put the motor back in and a year since I set all the
> fuses and I just... never noticed.A It just works.A Everything works.
> So anyway, I'm kind of a dumbass but at least the issue is resolved and
> I can take some curves in the Pantera like I always imagined doing :)
> sean
> --
> Sean Korb [1]spkorb at spkorb.org [2]http://www.spkorb.org
> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
>
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>
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> 2. http://www.spkorb.org/
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Mike,
I think you missed the part where he said he got a new deep pan.
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From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: spkorb at gmail.com
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Misdiagnosing an oil pressure issue
Sean,
Good story! But if you went through all the work to remove the stock
oil pan, and then just put it back instead of installing a quality pan
like and Aviaid or Armando pan, well....
Then I think your self-assessment is correct. :) :) :)
Speaking of dumbassery, yesterday after rebuilding my frozen heater
valve, I installed it and hooked up new heater hoses and prepared to
have a functioning heater for the first time in 29 years.
I had thought long and hard about all the things I was going to do to
make sure the pipes and heater core were free of debris. I thought SO
long and hard about it that I became convinced that I had actually done
it!
So in my excitement I hooked everything up, filled the cooling system
and tested it. It blew lukewarm for a minute and then blew cold.
Feeling the heater hoses, they were room temperature too.
Zero water flow. Then I realized I never cleaned out the 30 years of
gick that are probably in there. So now I have to tear the system down
and try to clean it all out and get it to work properly. It would have
been so easy when the engine was out just a few weeks ago.
Yes, I am a dumbass!!!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 17, 2018, at 19:07, Sean Korb <[1]spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Years ago, I noticed in right hand turns my oil pressure would
suddenly
> drop.A It was alarming so I took right hand turns very slowly.A
> Sometimes it would drop in left hand turns too.
> I didn't know if I had safety wires for my -1 ZF ring gear and I had
> stock 2 piece valves so I thought it was a good time to do some
> familiar maintenance.A I thought extreme measures were called for
so I
> even got a deep pan to install.
> ZF turned out to already be safety wired.A Yay.A The old pan came
off
> and wow!A All the valve seals had disintegrated and settled in the
> pan!A Problem solved!A I cleaned it out and ran solvent through
all
> the galleys and block, installed the pan and put rebuilt heads on
and
> painted the block.
> I had the same problem in left and right hand turns.A And it was
> getting worse!A I assumed I had missed a few flakes of valve seal
and
> I was going to have to take the motor out again.
> One day I started it up and had no oil pressure at all!A It did
> eventually come back but I did discover some other odd problems had
> been mounting and wiggling the fuses helped.A I wire brushed them
(a
> little copper wire brush) and it helped but I still had some
trouble.A
> I noticed some of the rivets were loose so I set them with a wide
awl
> struck with a hammer.A That tightened them up, my lights and
> instruments seemed more reliable and I went about my business.
> I had some long left and right hand sweepers today on the way to a
car
> show and I noticed the pressure did not drop the entire drive.A
It's
> been years since I put the motor back in and a year since I set all
the
> fuses and I just... never noticed.A It just works.A Everything
works.
> So anyway, I'm kind of a dumbass but at least the issue is resolved
and
> I can take some curves in the Pantera like I always imagined doing
:)
> sean
> --
> Sean Korb [1][2]spkorb at spkorb.org [2][3]http://www.spkorb.org
> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
#1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P.
Picasso
>
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>
> 1. mailto:[4]spkorb at spkorb.org
> 2. [5]http://www.spkorb.org/
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