[DeTomaso] Values of cars

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 8 11:55:49 EST 2018 

Has anyone proposed establishing a rating system for Panteras, and have a certification process for appraisers?  I was watching the crazy high prices of Corvettes at one of the auctions.  It seems like the Vette folks have a very organized rating system, and once a car has been rated, a buyer knows what they are getting.  I don't expect to see typical Panteras selling for $300K, but when the owner spends $100K + on a high quality restoration, it seems like they never recover the investment.  That also hurts the shops because people are less will to spend $s on their cars when it doesn't increase the value very much.  If the vendors and POCA got together and created something, I think it would have a big benefit.
Ken




      From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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#yiv4951265542 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv4951265542 You can narrow down results with a check box on the left side for 'completed items' or 'sold items', the former will include sold listings and what non-sold cars were bid to, the distinction is those sold have the price in bold green. The caveat with eBay is that there are no penalties for winning and not following through with the purchase, so you'll often see the same car sold a number of times at different prices as yahoo's bid on anything for the shear fun of it.
JulianFrom: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Values of cars John,

If the car sells on eBay the final sale price will be shown. I think the auction disappears after 90 days.

Mike

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> On Mar 7, 2018, at 19:43, <gt40 at sbcglobal.net> <gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Re: Ebay, I see many P's for sale there, but is there are way to see what they actually sold for? Or are my techie skills so low that I'm missing how to find that info out? (highly likely!)
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> John
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> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
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> Was watching an auction (or looking at cars on ebay) and with the resolution of the images, how can you ever tell the value of the cars?  It seems pretty clear that there is a huge difference between a car that looks good from 10 feet, and one that is nearly perfect, and had a lot of money spent to reach that level.  I can imagine a professional appraiser taking that into account, but seems hard for the average buyer.  I  think some of the other marques have developed standards?
> Ken
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   Has anyone proposed establishing a rating system for Panteras, and have
   a certification process for appraisers?  I was watching the crazy high
   prices of Corvettes at one of the auctions.  It seems like the Vette
   folks have a very organized rating system, and once a car has been
   rated, a buyer knows what they are getting.  I don't expect to see
   typical Panteras selling for $300K, but when the owner spends $100K +
   on a high quality restoration, it seems like they never recover the
   investment.  That also hurts the shops because people are less will to
   spend $s on their cars when it doesn't increase the value very much.
   If the vendors and POCA got together and created something, I think it
   would have a big benefit.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   To: "gt40 at sbcglobal.net" <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>; Mike Drew
   <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Detomaso Email List
   <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 8:12 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Values of cars
   You can narrow down results with a check box on the left side
   for 'completed items' or 'sold items', the former will include sold
   listings and what non-sold cars were bid to, the distinction is
   those sold have the price in bold green. The caveat with eBay is that
   there are no penalties for winning and not following through with the
   purchase, so you'll often see the same car sold a number of times
   at different prices as yahoo's bid on anything for the shear fun of it.
   Julian
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   Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 6:48 PM
   To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net
   Cc: Ken Green; Detomaso Email List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Values of cars

   John,
   If the car sells on eBay the final sale price will be shown. I think
   the auction disappears after 90 days.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Mar 7, 2018, at 19:43, <gt40 at sbcglobal.net> <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>
   wrote:
   >
   > Re: Ebay, I see many P's for sale there, but is there are way to see
   what they actually sold for? Or are my techie skills so low that I'm
   missing how to find that info out? (highly likely!)
   > Any help would be appreciated.
   >
   > John
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
   > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 12:56 PM
   > To: Detomaso Email List
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Values of cars
   >
   > Was watching an auction (or looking at cars on ebay) and with the
   resolution of the images, how can you ever tell the value of the cars?
   It seems pretty clear that there is a huge difference between a car
   that looks good from 10 feet, and one that is nearly perfect, and had a
   lot of money spent to reach that level.  I can imagine a professional
   appraiser taking that into account, but seems hard for the average
   buyer.  I  think some of the other marques have developed standards?
   > Ken
   >
   >
   >
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