[DeTomaso] Camber locks? degrees of camber per rotation

Larry Stock larrys at panteraparts.com
Mon Mar 5 16:16:28 EST 2018


No Re-pops here at Pantera Pats Connection. We got a pallet full of ball
joints and Tie Rod ends from the original OEM manufacture in Italy a few
months ago, just 85 bucks each for the Ball Joints $37.50 for an original
tie rod end. Larry


On 3/5/18, 12:40 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>   Tiny changes in camber like tenths of a degree will get lost in the
>   noise and depends on you pulling the stud further into the tapered
>   hole. Not all cars will likely get the same amount of change. But if
>   you convert to '68-'83 Chrysler-type screw-in upper ball joints from
>   Howe or Coleman Racing (both dirt track specialists), their take-apart
>   ball joints can be had with optional stud lengths. Sprint cars
>   routinely tune their suspensions with different ball joint stud
>   lengths- not for camber changes but to alter the front moment centers
>   for improved cornering. They are also infinitely rebuildable, can be
>   changed at the track because they screw into a receptical so are not
>   pressed in, and are low friction.
>   All the info on converting a Pantera suspension to use those ball
>   joints is in a POCA Newsletter article April 2008. Mine have been in
>   our '72's suspension front & rear, upper & lower since then with no
>   trouble. I used all upper Chrysler-type  aftermarket ball joints -NOT
>   made by MOPAR.
>   The article was originally written due to the extreme cost of OEM
>   Pantera ball joints at the time, but it turns out these popular
>   Chrysler-type racing ball joints are also tune-able for pro racing.
>   Nowadays, thanks to Steve Wilkinson repopping the stockers, the price
>   for OEMs has dropped markedly and per the article,  the Chrysler
>   conversion requires some precision machining to install in a Pantera.
>   J DeRyke
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>   To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>   Cc: 'List DeTomaso Forum' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2018 11:03 am
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Camber locks? degrees of camber per rotation
>   Most times people could care less when I get out the slide rule, But
>   since you ASKED.
>   I don't know the thread so for example I chose a 0.1" change
>   To my eye, it seems the amount of change for each camber or castor
>   would result in their same change of angle.
>   Given I am not "automotive" experienced and my comprehension is waning,
>   if I am in error, PLEASE critique. It won't hurt my feelings
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>   Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
>   Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 11:50 AM
>   To: Chuck and Linda Huber; 'Larry Stock'; [2]jderyke at aol.com;
>   [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Camber locks? degrees of camber per rotation
>   Probably easy to figure out based on the separation of the ball joints
>   and threads per inch, but has anyone already done the math as a sanity
>   check?
>   Ken
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