[DeTomaso] Brake Bleeder Kits

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 2 00:04:10 EST 2018 

Mike,


Thanks for the tip on the c-clamp and yes the quick coupler seems overly heavy for the application and tends to kink the hose and stress the nipple on the cover in use, I do recall I had one fail now too, some caps seem weaker than others depending on the ABS casting.


What pressure are you using to create a geyser? Mine seems to dissipate pretty quickly at 5 psi.


Julian

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From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:45 PM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Brake Bleeder Kits

Julian,

Discard the ridiculous chain affair and use a piece of steel or block of wood on top of the adapter and use a large C-clamp to get a good seal.

I am rather less impressed with my Motive Products pressure bleeder after the hose broke off the nipple on top of the unit and it sprayed brake fluid all over my car, and all over the motorcycle next to it, and all over the garage.

You haven’t lived until you have seen a geyser of brake fluid spraying all over your garage and there’s almost no way to stop it!

Mike

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 1, 2018, at 19:55, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Mike,
>
>   I have a Motive pressure bleeder, it's a great device that allows brake
>   bleeding single handed. Basically just a pressure pot that you dump
>   your new fluid in, connect the correct cap fitting to your master
>   cylinder and pump up to 5-6 psi. Then just go around and bleed each
>   caliper from farthest first working back to closest to M/C. The
>   pressure pot keeps fluid flowing through the system and the master
>   cylinder topped up. As I work on multiples of cars I purchased a kit
>   with a number of master cylinder cap fittings, key is getting
>   the correct one for your master cylinder.
>
>   The caveat with this system is using it on the GM type of master that
>   has the large single reservoir with a clip over cap as the fitting to
>   cover and seal it  is a chain and thumbscrew affair, I never seem to
>   get a good seal on those.
>
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
>
>   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>   Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>   Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:30 PM
>   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Brake Bleeder Kits
>
>   Getting ready to bleed the brakes on 6328 to see if that solves my weak
>   brake problem.  I reviewed brake bleed piece on Mike Dailey's website,
>   and
>   he mentions using a brake bleeder kit.  He made it sound pretty
>   straight
>   forward, and didn't seem to involve the tedious
>   open-down-close-up-repeat 10
>   times with someone else in the driver's seat.  Has anyone else tried
>   one of
>   these kits?  There are a number of them on Summit Racing, anywhere from
>   $75-$150.
>
>   I've tried the Speed Bleeders before, didn't seem to work as
>   advertised.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Mike Thomas
>   Pres., Panteras Northwest
>   206-795-3302
>   Yellow '74 #6328
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   Mike,

   Thanks for the tip on the c-clamp and yes the quick coupler seems
   overly heavy for the application and tends to kink the hose and stress
   the nipple on the cover in use, I do recall I had one fail now too,
   some caps seem weaker than others depending on the ABS casting.

   What pressure are you using to create a geyser? Mine seems to dissipate
   pretty quickly at 5 psi.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:45 PM
   To: Julian Kift
   Cc: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Brake Bleeder Kits

   Julian,
   Discard the ridiculous chain affair and use a piece of steel or block
   of wood on top of the adapter and use a large C-clamp to get a good
   seal.
   I am rather less impressed with my Motive Products pressure bleeder
   after the hose broke off the nipple on top of the unit and it sprayed
   brake fluid all over my car, and all over the motorcycle next to it,
   and all over the garage.
   You haven't lived until you have seen a geyser of brake fluid spraying
   all over your garage and there's almost no way to stop it!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Mar 1, 2018, at 19:55, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >   Mike,
   >
   >   I have a Motive pressure bleeder, it's a great device that allows
   brake
   >   bleeding single handed. Basically just a pressure pot that you dump
   >   your new fluid in, connect the correct cap fitting to your master
   >   cylinder and pump up to 5-6 psi. Then just go around and bleed each
   >   caliper from farthest first working back to closest to M/C. The
   >   pressure pot keeps fluid flowing through the system and the master
   >   cylinder topped up. As I work on multiples of cars I purchased a
   kit
   >   with a number of master cylinder cap fittings, key is getting
   >   the correct one for your master cylinder.
   >
   >   The caveat with this system is using it on the GM type of master
   that
   >   has the large single reservoir with a clip over cap as the fitting
   to
   >   cover and seal it  is a chain and thumbscrew affair, I never seem
   to
   >   get a good seal on those.
   >
   >   Julian
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of
   >   Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   >   Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:30 PM
   >   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Brake Bleeder Kits
   >
   >   Getting ready to bleed the brakes on 6328 to see if that solves my
   weak
   >   brake problem.  I reviewed brake bleed piece on Mike Dailey's
   website,
   >   and
   >   he mentions using a brake bleeder kit.  He made it sound pretty
   >   straight
   >   forward, and didn't seem to involve the tedious
   >   open-down-close-up-repeat 10
   >   times with someone else in the driver's seat.  Has anyone else
   tried
   >   one of
   >   these kits?  There are a number of them on Summit Racing, anywhere
   from
   >   $75-$150.
   >
   >   I've tried the Speed Bleeders before, didn't seem to work as
   >   advertised.
   >
   >   Thanks
   >
   >   Mike Thomas
   >   Pres., Panteras Northwest
   >   206-795-3302
   >   Yellow '74 #6328
   >   [1]www.panterasnorthwest.com <[2]http://www.panterasnorthwest.com/>
   >   [3]Panteras Northwest
   >   [1]www.panterasnorthwest.com
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   www.panterasnorthwest.com
   Welcome to the Panteras Northwest website! Take a minute to meet our
   board of directors (below), then take some time to explore our site
   more fully.
   >   Welcome to the Panteras Northwest website! Take a minute to meet
   our
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