[DeTomaso] Yellow Pantera 4613 and the Registry

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Fri Jun 29 09:39:24 EDT 2018


 Dear Chuck,
                    Thank you for the information.  Nicely done, sir.
                                      Impressed,  Chuck Engles


I'll second that. Remember all those years where we didn't have Chuck's
data and expertise.

Jeff
6559

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

> Dear Chuck,
>
>
>                      Thank you for the information.  Nicely done, sir.
>
>
>                                       Impressed,  Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of The DeTomaso Registry Guy
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:55 PM
> To: List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Yellow Pantera 4613
>
>
>
> Listers,
>
>
>
> A newbie asked me about a Pantera for sale.  4613         He naturally
> supplied some photos.
>
>
>
> of which I instantly recognized.
>
>
>
> This car was offered for sale (sold) by PI Motorsports in 2015.
>
>
>
> The owner in Germany supplied an update in 2016.
>
>
>
> I suggested this might be suspicious, as the photos are not >fresh<
>
>
>
> Then the photos are from a PI Motorsport advert, and are present in the
> registry.
>
>
>
> Also when cars go back to Europe, they rarely come back.
>
>
>
> The advert was found at http://hotclassicdeals.com/details.php?id=3763
>
>
>
> A Hot Classic Deal -> indeed!
>
>
>
> He followed up with some correspondence he received from the seller:
>
>
>
> I am sure some of you recognize text that is similar to scams we have found
> before:
>
>
>
> >>>>>
>
>
>
> I'm glad that you are still interested and maybe we can wrap a deal. The
> location of the car is Warrenton, OR ready to go. The car will come with
> clear title, two sets of keys, manuals and some service history records.
> The
> car belongs to my father but he is too old to enjoy it. He is disabled in a
> medical center and I am forced to handle this sale. Because my time is very
> important and I don't have other alternatives, a shipping company is the
> best choice for us. They will protect both of us in this transaction and
> will take care of the entire sale process from payment, shipping, title
> transfer service or/and (if needed) returns and refunding.
> As for the payment we can start a transaction through them where I'm
> already
> registered. You will have to register too on their web site, then you have
> to contact me to start the transaction. If you are serious about buying the
> car, I will ship it anywhere in the States with no extra cost.
> If you want to move forward please contact me back so we can get the ball
> rolling.
>
> Thank you,
> Christina W.
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry for this late reply but the last days were terrible. I worked up
> to 15 hours.  Let me introduce myself. My name is Christina Wade and I work
> for Wicked Tuna as Post-Production Coordinator. I am currently overseas for
> about six months because we are working at a new season.
> The car is still for sale. Price is $27,000. The car is being sold as
> described, clear title, without accident, no mechanical or electrical
> issues. The car runs and drives perfect. The pictures reflects the actual
> condition of the car.
> If you want to find out more details about how we can close up this deal,
> do
> not hesitate to contact me and I will respond at my earliest convenience.
>
> Sincerely,
> Christina W.
>
>
>
> >>>>>
>
>
>
> This may or may not be a scam (cough) , but the details do >not< match what
> the registry contains.
>
>
>
> Another way the DeTomaso Registry helps you!
>
>
>
> Caveat Emptor
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
>
>
>
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   Dear Chuck,
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Thank you for the information.A  Nicely
   done, sir.
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Impressed,A
   Chuck Engles
   I'll second that. Remember all those years where we didn't have Chuck's
   data and expertise.
   Jeff
   6559

   On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:

     Dear Chuck,
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Thank you for the information.A
     Nicely done, sir.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A
     Impressed,A  Chuck Engles
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of The DeTomaso Registry Guy
     Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:55 PM
     To: List DeTomaso Forum
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Yellow Pantera 4613
     Listers,
     A newbie asked me about a Pantera for sale.A  4613A  A  A  A  A He
     naturally
     supplied some photos.
     of which I instantly recognized.A
     This car was offered for sale (sold) by PI Motorsports in 2015.A
     The owner in Germany supplied an update in 2016.
     I suggested this might be suspicious, as the photos are not >fresh<
     Then the photos are from a PI Motorsport advert, and are present in
     the
     registry.
     Also when cars go back to Europe, they rarely come back.
     The advert was found at [3]http://hotclassicdeals.com/
     details.php?id=3763
     A Hot Classic Deal -> indeed!
     He followed up with some correspondence he received from the seller:
     I am sure some of you recognize text that is similar to scams we
     have found
     before:
     >>>>>
     I'm glad that you are still interested and maybe we can wrap a deal.
     The
     location of the car is Warrenton, OR ready to go. The car will come
     with
     clear title, two sets of keys, manuals and some service history
     records. The
     car belongs to my father but he is too old to enjoy it. He is
     disabled in a
     medical center and I am forced to handle this sale. Because my time
     is very
     important and I don't have other alternatives, a shipping company is
     the
     best choice for us. They will protect both of us in this transaction
     and
     will take care of the entire sale process from payment, shipping,
     title
     transfer service or/and (if needed) returns and refunding.
     As for the payment we can start a transaction through them where I'm
     already
     registered. You will have to register too on their web site, then
     you have
     to contact me to start the transaction. If you are serious about
     buying the
     car, I will ship it anywhere in the States with no extra cost.
     If you want to move forward please contact me back so we can get the
     ball
     rolling.
     Thank you,
     Christina W.
     Hello,
     I'm sorry for this late reply but the last days were terrible. I
     worked up
     to 15 hours.A  Let me introduce myself. My name is Christina Wade
     and I work
     for Wicked Tuna as Post-Production Coordinator. I am currently
     overseas for
     about six months because we are working at a new season.
     The car is still for sale. Price is $27,000. The car is being sold
     as
     described, clear title, without accident, no mechanical or
     electrical
     issues. The car runs and drives perfect. The pictures reflects the
     actual
     condition of the car.
     If you want to find out more details about how we can close up this
     deal, do
     not hesitate to contact me and I will respond at my earliest
     convenience.
     Sincerely,
     Christina W.
     >>>>>
     This may or may not be a scam (cough) , but the details do >not<
     match what
     the registry contains.
     Another way the DeTomaso Registry helps you!
     Caveat Emptor
     Chuck
     The De Tomaso Registry Guy
     [4]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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References

   1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   3. http://hotclassicdeals.com/details.php?id=3763
   4. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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