[DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 25 17:28:03 EDT 2018
My sincerest apologies to you Scott, as your site is one of the easier to navigate and order from!
Julian
________________________________
From: scott at saccrestorations.net <scott at saccrestorations.net>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 2:25 PM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Don Franck'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
And the always forgotten SACC Restorations!!!
http://www.saccrestorations.net/
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
Julian Kift
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:42 PM
To: Don Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>; <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
Don,
Most of them have and many have an online catalog, perhaps not full online
ordering or those that do you need to verify parts availability.
http://www.panteraparts.com/
<http://www.panteraparts.com/>http://www.panteraperformance.com/
http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
http://www.precisionproformance.com/
http://www.pim.net/
http://fullthrottlepanteras.com/
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Don
Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:06 PM
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
Sure wish some of these vendors would come out of the 80’s and create web
sites.
Don
On Sunday, June 24, 2018, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> Les,
>
> Not all replacement masters are created equal. The ones with DETOMASO
> cast in the side are legendarily junk.
>
> I was with a couple of Pantera vendors at an event a few years back
> and they were talking about them. One said “I have a huge box of
> defective ones that customers have returned”. The other then said, “I
> bet my box is bigger than your box!” Then they both had a good laugh.
> I didn’t think it was especially funny, because I know how difficult
> it is to change the damn things.
>
> The only quality factory clutch master cylinders I’m aware of come
> from either Roland Jäckel in Germany, or Marino Perna of Pantera East (who
> imports them from Germany). I can’t speak to Brand X replacements from
> Wilwood etc.
>
> Lori’s car had one of the DETOMASO units and it failed when about
> three years old (well past when some have failed—some were bad right
> out of the
> box) so we replaced it with one from Marino, which has been going
> strong for seven years now.
>
> My vintage 1993 NOS Italian unit finally failed a few weeks ago. I
> plan to replace it with one of Marino’s, and then try to get a rebuild
> kit to restore my old one to have as a spare.....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 23, 2018, at 20:47, L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Don,
> > Your clutch master exhibits the classic symptoms of a failing
> master cylinder. The seals are no longer able to hold full hydraulic
> pressure. When you pump the clutch pedal a few times, you are building
> enough pressure to let the clutch release but only for less than a minute.
> > Time to replace the master and possibly the slave cylinder, if
> > it
> has been in the car for as long as the master has.
> > Almost all of the PANTERA vendors sell these units. Your
> > choice,
> Pantera’s by Wilkinson, Full Throttle Pantera’s, Pantera Performance
> Center
> - Colorado, Larry Stick up in Reno-Tahoe area, Precision
> Proformance-Bob Byars ....
> > If you get the POCA newsletter from a few months ago, you’ll
> > find
> all of the vendors listed there with contact information. (Be sure to
> check an edition from around January to see them all.) Hope this helps
you.
> >
> > Leslie A. Gray
> >
> >> On Jun 23, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Don Franck <panteradon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Second tech question of the day.
> >>
> >> Drove the car quite a ways today and am having difficulty
> >> shifting.A Seems like the hotter the car gor the worse the
> >> problem.A It wiuld shift easier if i pumped the clutch pedal a
> >> few times.A By the time i pulled into the garage, the car died as i
could not release the clutch.
> >>
> >> So, options? A We did bleed the system a year or so ago and it
> >> did not help the situation.
> >>
> >> Rebuild the master and slave?A If so, where can i get parts.
> >>
> >> Replace them?A Recommend vendors?
> >>
> >> I do have braided steel hydraulic lines so the line is not the issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >> --
> >> Don
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My sincerest apologies to you Scott, as your site is one of the easier
to navigate and order from!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: scott at saccrestorations.net <scott at saccrestorations.net>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 2:25 PM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Don Franck'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
And the always forgotten SACC Restorations!!!
[1]http://www.saccrestorations.net/
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
Julian Kift
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:42 PM
To: Don Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>;
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
Don,
Most of them have and many have an online catalog, perhaps not full
online
ordering or those that do you need to verify parts availability.
[2]http://www.panteraparts.com/
<[3]http://www.panteraparts.com/>http://www.panteraperformance.com/
[4]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
[5]http://www.precisionproformance.com/
[6]http://www.pim.net/
[7]http://fullthrottlepanteras.com/
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Don
Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:06 PM
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch master/slave
Sure wish some of these vendors would come out of the 80's and create
web
sites.
Don
On Sunday, June 24, 2018, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> Les,
>
> Not all replacement masters are created equal. The ones with DETOMASO
> cast in the side are legendarily junk.
>
> I was with a couple of Pantera vendors at an event a few years back
> and they were talking about them. One said "I have a huge box of
> defective ones that customers have returned". The other then said,
"I
> bet my box is bigger than your box!" Then they both had a good
laugh.
> I didn't think it was especially funny, because I know how difficult
> it is to change the damn things.
>
> The only quality factory clutch master cylinders I'm aware of come
> from either Roland Jaeckel in Germany, or Marino Perna of Pantera
East (who
> imports them from Germany). I can't speak to Brand X replacements
from
> Wilwood etc.
>
> Lori's car had one of the DETOMASO units and it failed when about
> three years old (well past when some have failed--some were bad right
> out of the
> box) so we replaced it with one from Marino, which has been going
> strong for seven years now.
>
> My vintage 1993 NOS Italian unit finally failed a few weeks ago. I
> plan to replace it with one of Marino's, and then try to get a
rebuild
> kit to restore my old one to have as a spare.....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 23, 2018, at 20:47, L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Don,
> > Your clutch master exhibits the classic symptoms of a failing
> master cylinder. The seals are no longer able to hold full hydraulic
> pressure. When you pump the clutch pedal a few times, you are
building
> enough pressure to let the clutch release but only for less than a
minute.
> > Time to replace the master and possibly the slave cylinder, if
> > it
> has been in the car for as long as the master has.
> > Almost all of the PANTERA vendors sell these units. Your
> > choice,
> Pantera's by Wilkinson, Full Throttle Pantera's, Pantera Performance
> Center
> - Colorado, Larry Stick up in Reno-Tahoe area, Precision
> Proformance-Bob Byars ....
> > If you get the POCA newsletter from a few months ago, you'll
> > find
> all of the vendors listed there with contact information. (Be sure to
> check an edition from around January to see them all.) Hope this
helps
you.
> >
> > Leslie A. Gray
> >
> >> On Jun 23, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Don Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Second tech question of the day.
> >>
> >> Drove the car quite a ways today and am having difficulty
> >> shifting.A Seems like the hotter the car gor the worse the
> >> problem.A It wiuld shift easier if i pumped the clutch pedal a
> >> few times.A By the time i pulled into the garage, the car died
as i
could not release the clutch.
> >>
> >> So, options? A We did bleed the system a year or so ago and it
> >> did not help the situation.
> >>
> >> Rebuild the master and slave?A If so, where can i get parts.
> >>
> >> Replace them?A Recommend vendors?
> >>
> >> I do have braided steel hydraulic lines so the line is not the
issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >> --
> >> Don
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not
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> >
> >
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>
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Don
References
1. http://www.saccrestorations.net/
2. http://www.panteraparts.com/
3. http://www.panteraparts.com/
4. http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
5. http://www.precisionproformance.com/
6. http://www.pim.net/
7. http://fullthrottlepanteras.com/
8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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