[DeTomaso] suggestion re: vibration

Christer Eriksson unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com
Mon Jun 25 16:29:16 EDT 2018


Thanks Thomas for the information, I’ll perhaps  give you or Yngve a call
when they arrive for further instructions😉
/Christer

mån 25 juni 2018 kl. 16:17 skrev Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>:

> You'll be happy with the CV shafts.
>
> I'm using SACC shafts and adapters and I haven't worried about the
> shafts in years. I can't remember how many U-joints I had to replace
> before I gave up on the stock shafts.
>
> The only issue I had with the SACC shafts was that they were slightly
> too long and I had to take them to a machine shop and cut 20 mm from
> each of the shafts and cut a new groove for the circlip. I think Yngve
> Pettersson had the same issue with his shafts.
>
> /Thomas
>
> Den 2018-06-25 kl. 15:38, skrev Christer Eriksson:
> > Dear forum, thanks for all your advice, you are awsome❤️
> > I’ve ordered a pair of CV axle shafts from SACC restorations, hopefully
> this will solve the issue. I will also review the engine fittings to insure
> they are correct! I’ll give you feedback as soon they have arrived and put
> in place. Looking forward to some nice track days this summer without any
> issues😬
> >
> > Best regards Christer
> >
> > Skickat från min iPad
> >
> >> 24 juni 2018 kl. 22:57 skrev Roland <willibillie at live.de>:
> >>
> >>    Good point. input and output must have the same angle. Input angle is
> >>    always 0 degrees from the gearbox. Very, very seldom the rear axle is
> >>    adjusted exact to 0 degrees. That causes lots of vibrations. Can be
> >>    seen easily on damaged decklid corners. A swap to CV joints solves
> all
> >>    these problems. I have never seen damaged decklid corners on CV joint
> >>    driven Panteras. Vibrations eat power. A swap to CV joints are the
> >>    cheapest HP on the wheels. SACC Restaurations have a nice set for a
> >>    reasonable price.
> >>
> >>    Roland Jaeckel
> >>
> >>    Am 24.06.2018 um 22:38 schrieb Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.:
> >>
> >> Here is an youtube demstrating u joint jerking.  Phasing is shown at
> 02:00
> >> [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmV4qwLfOMY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of
> >> Christer Eriksson
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 16:21 PM
> >> To: Mike Drew
> >> Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [4]laurieferrari at aol.com;
> [5]unnerstad.
> >> ekelundatgmail.com at aol.com
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] suggestion re: vibration
> >>
> >> I have not disembeld the shafts but previous Owner may have? I belive
> this could
> >> be the issue and I guess I need to dig further into it. At the same
> time I will
> >> Inspect the Engine joints to be secure.
> >> Thanks for all your advice!
> >> Best regards Christer
> >>
> >> I would defenitly come back when the issue is solved!
> >>
> >> soen 24 juni 2018 kl. 06:29 skrev Mike Drew [6]<MikeLDrew at aol.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >> Christer,
> >>
> >> Did you dismantle the two halves of the driveshafts? If so, and you
> >> didn't get them assembled exactly as they had been before, you could
> >> have easily created an imbalance or out-of-phase condition.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 23, 2018, at 12:21, Christer Eriksson <
> >>
> >> [7]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>   The halfshaft should be individualy balanced, need to rebalance?
> >>
> >>   Could it be that they need to be rotated 180 degrees=reclocked?
> >>
> >>   Thanks
> >>
> >>   lAP:r 23 juni 2018 kl. 18:50 skrev Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
> >>   [8]<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >> Reliable source suggests you most likely need to reclock your half
> >>
> >>     shafts!A  Th
> >>     ey are probably not clocked correctly.
> >>     23 juni 2018 kl. 16:28 skrev Christer Eriksson <[1]unnerstad.ekelund
> >>     at [2]gmail.co
> >>     m>:
> >>
> >> A  A Dear forum,
> >>
> >> A  A During acceleration Iave got heavy vibrations in my #2783,
> >>
> >>     nothing
> >>
> >> A  A during de-accelerating nor continious speed. So heavy that the
> >>
> >>     rearview
> >>
> >> A  A mirror turns....
> >>
> >> A  A Any ideas would be welcome!
> >>
> >> A  A Thanks ChristerA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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   Thanks Thomas for the information, Iall perhaps A give you or Yngve a
   call when they arrive for further instructionsd-

   /ChristerA

   mAYENn 25 juni 2018 kl. 16:17 skrev Thomas TAP:rnblom
   <[1]thomas at hax.se>:

     You'll be happy with the CV shafts.
     I'm using SACC shafts and adapters and I haven't worried about the
     shafts in years. I can't remember how many U-joints I had to replace
     before I gave up on the stock shafts.
     The only issue I had with the SACC shafts was that they were
     slightly
     too long and I had to take them to a machine shop and cut 20 mm from
     each of the shafts and cut a new groove for the circlip. I think
     Yngve
     Pettersson had the same issue with his shafts.
     /Thomas
     Den 2018-06-25 kl. 15:38, skrev Christer Eriksson:
     > Dear forum, thanks for all your advice, you are awsomeaCURi,
     > Iave ordered a pair of CV axle shafts from SACC restorations,
     hopefully this will solve the issue. I will also review the engine
     fittings to insure they are correct! Iall give you feedback as soon
     they have arrived and put in place. Looking forward to some nice
     track days this summer without any issuesd-NOT
     >
     > Best regards Christer
     >
     > Skickat frAYENn min iPad
     >
     >> 24 juni 2018 kl. 22:57 skrev Roland <[2]willibillie at live.de>:
     >>
     >>A  A  Good point. input and output must have the same angle. Input
     angle is
     >>A  A  always 0 degrees from the gearbox. Very, very seldom the
     rear axle is
     >>A  A  adjusted exact to 0 degrees. That causes lots of vibrations.
     Can be
     >>A  A  seen easily on damaged decklid corners. A swap to CV joints
     solves all
     >>A  A  these problems. I have never seen damaged decklid corners on
     CV joint
     >>A  A  driven Panteras. Vibrations eat power. A swap to CV joints
     are the
     >>A  A  cheapest HP on the wheels. SACC Restaurations have a nice
     set for a
     >>A  A  reasonable price.
     >>
     >>A  A  Roland Jaeckel
     >>
     >>A  A  Am 24.06.2018 um 22:38 schrieb Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.:
     >>
     >> Here is an youtube demstrating u joint jerking.A  Phasing is
     shown at 02:00
     >> [1][3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmV4qwLfOMY
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> -----Original Message-----
     >> From: DeTomaso
     [[2]mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of
     >> Christer Eriksson
     >> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 16:21 PM
     >> To: Mike Drew
     >> Cc: [3][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
     [4][6]laurieferrari at aol.com; [5]unnerstad.
     >> [7]ekelundatgmail.com at aol.com
     >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] suggestion re: vibration
     >>
     >> I have not disembeld the shafts but previous Owner may have? I
     belive this could
     >> be the issue and I guess I need to dig further into it. At the
     same time I will
     >> Inspect the Engine joints to be secure.
     >> Thanks for all your advice!
     >> Best regards Christer
     >>
     >> I would defenitly come back when the issue is solved!
     >>
     >> soen 24 juni 2018 kl. 06:29 skrev Mike Drew
     [6]<[8]MikeLDrew at aol.com>:
     >>
     >>
     >> Christer,
     >>
     >> Did you dismantle the two halves of the driveshafts? If so, and
     you
     >> didn't get them assembled exactly as they had been before, you
     could
     >> have easily created an imbalance or out-of-phase condition.
     >>
     >> Mike
     >>
     >> Sent from my iPad
     >>
     >>
     >> On Jun 23, 2018, at 12:21, Christer Eriksson <
     >>
     >> [7][9]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com> wrote:
     >>
     >>A  A The halfshaft should be individualy balanced, need to
     rebalance?
     >>
     >>A  A Could it be that they need to be rotated 180
     degrees=reclocked?
     >>
     >>A  A Thanks
     >>
     >>A  A lAP:r 23 juni 2018 kl. 18:50 skrev Laurie Ferrari via
     DeTomaso
     >>A  A [8]<[1][10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
     >>
     >>
     >> Reliable source suggests you most likely need to reclock your
     half
     >>
     >>A  A  A shafts!AA  Th
     >>A  A  A ey are probably not clocked correctly.
     >>A  A  A 23 juni 2018 kl. 16:28 skrev Christer Eriksson
     <[1]unnerstad.ekelund
     >>A  A  A at [2][11]gmail.co
     >>A  A  A m>:
     >>
     >> AA  A Dear forum,
     >>
     >> AA  A During acceleration Iave got heavy vibrations in my #2783,
     >>
     >>A  A  A nothing
     >>
     >> AA  A during de-accelerating nor continious speed. So heavy that
     the
     >>
     >>A  A  A rearview
     >>
     >> AA  A mirror turns....
     >>
     >> AA  A Any ideas would be welcome!
     >>
     >> AA  A Thanks ChristerA
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>A  A  A References
     >>A  A  A AA  A 1.
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