[DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay

Sat Jun 23 07:59:33 EDT 2018

Dear Ken,

                    Thank you for that excellent reference.  It is printed out and will be on the work bench this morning as I attempt to herd electrons to the desired location.

                                         Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 11:17 PM
To: Forest Goodhart; Charles Engles; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay

Chuck,

    The attached drawing and description, based on SOBILL's work explains how the headlight motors work.

  _____  

From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'List DeTomaso Forum' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay

  Chuck,
  The clear box is the headlight up/down relay. Chances are that your
  problem lies in one of the limit switches on the motor plate at the
  left side just behind the radiator.
  Forest
    __________________________________________________________________

  From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
  To: 'List DeTomaso Forum' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:17 PM
  Subject: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay
    Dear Forum,
                        No good deed goes unpunished.
                        The late 74 Pantera I have was working fine.  I
    decided to upgrade to LED headlights---"plug and play".    I
  installed
    them without much trouble and they worked.  All was well until I
  tried
    to put the headlights down and off.
                        They won't go down.    Nothing was touched with
  the
    installation other than the headlight buckets.
                        Today I removed the new LED headlights and the
  dash
    switch still refuses to actuate the headlight retraction.
                          The #10 fuse is good and the dash fan blower
  works
    fine on that circuit.
                        My dumb diagnosis is that the Headlight motor
  relay
    either coincidentally failed or it didn't like the new electron
    arrangement and failed.
                          By the driver's left leg is the relay panel.  I
    see a column of rectangular boxes and to the inside of that there is
  a
    clear box thing, then a black box thin and finally, the cylinder
  thing,
    which is the buzzer, I think.
                          Which one is the HL motor relay?    Are new
  ones
    available?
                          I don't do electricity well and I am open to
    advice.
                                      Frustrated,  Chuck Engles
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   Dear Ken,

                       Thank you for that excellent reference.  It is
   printed out and will be on the work bench this morning as I attempt to
   herd electrons to the desired location.

                                            Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

   From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 11:17 PM
   To: Forest Goodhart; Charles Engles; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay

   Chuck,

       The attached drawing and description, based on SOBILL's work
   explains how the headlight motors work.

   _______________________________________________________________________

   From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
   To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:29 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay

     Chuck,
     The clear box is the headlight up/down relay. Chances are that your
     problem lies in one of the limit switches on the motor plate at the
     left side just behind the radiator.
     Forest
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net>
     To: 'List DeTomaso Forum' <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:17 PM
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Headlight motor relay
       Dear Forum,
                           No good deed goes unpunished.
                           The late 74 Pantera I have was working fine.  I
       decided to upgrade to LED headlights---"plug and play".    I
     installed
       them without much trouble and they worked.  All was well until I
     tried
       to put the headlights down and off.
                           They won't go down.    Nothing was touched with
     the
       installation other than the headlight buckets.
                           Today I removed the new LED headlights and the
     dash
       switch still refuses to actuate the headlight retraction.
                             The #10 fuse is good and the dash fan blower
     works
       fine on that circuit.
                           My dumb diagnosis is that the Headlight motor
     relay
       either coincidentally failed or it didn't like the new electron
       arrangement and failed.
                             By the driver's left leg is the relay panel.
   I
       see a column of rectangular boxes and to the inside of that there
   is
     a
       clear box thing, then a black box thin and finally, the cylinder
     thing,
       which is the buzzer, I think.
                             Which one is the HL motor relay?    Are new
     ones
       available?
                             I don't do electricity well and I am open to
       advice.
                                         Frustrated,  Chuck Engles
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