[DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
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-------- Original message --------From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> Date: 2018-06-22 8:02 PM (GMT-07:00) To: billmoore6480 at gmail.com, 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
Ah Bill...Not all on us have Bun of Steel! Lol
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Comeonman...... Cali don't travel......
5000 plus miles this year
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Cc: fresnofinches at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
Mike,
That is my understanding, but I'm trying to obtain some further
clarification as it would appear Reno Tahoe Pantera's is taking on some not
insignificant financial risks as a small chapter and especially as we will
be in direct competition for attendees with the Forza event. I'm also trying
to clarify the Fun Rally raffle situation as I assume the Chapter would run
and benefit from that wholly in an effort to break even.
The bigger question is if POCA is not sponsoring events, what is the amassed
$125K of central funds going to do? I would forward a motion that if POCA is
decentralizing to the Chapters then the bulk of the membership funds should
be redistributed to the those Chapters and future membership renewals
likewise, with only a token to cover publications going to POCA central.
Funny how this is all now happening after a fairly disastrous Vegas Rally,
not supported by any Chapter! Personally I think if all this is true then
POCA just cut it's own throat, quite sad.
Julian
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Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
Jack,
All the events you mention were/are great, but they are deliberately smaller
regional events, unlike the POCA Fun Rally which is supposed to be THE
national event.
Are you saying the board has decided to abdicate that responsibility and
there will only be regional events from now on, staged by the chapters?
That would be a very sad state of affairs if it was true. I'm hoping I
misunderstood you?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 22, 2018, at 4:03 PM, jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>
> Yes, Robert- the Florida event you refer to is a Chapter-run event called
'The First DeTomasos United East Coast Fun Rally. It is to be entirely run
by volunteers from the South-East Pantera Chapter of POCA over Oct 18-21.
There are probably enough Panteras in FL and the southeast U.S. to make it
financially feasible. The 2019 Reno Event will be of the same type held in
the West, also run entirely by a POCA Chapter who will reap any rewards for
this sort of event. In previous years, such events were sponsored by Great
Lakes Panteras Chapter in the mId-West and even earlier on the East Coast by
the PONE Chapter and the Jersey Panteras Chapter.
>
> The Board decided that POCA should not compete with the Chapters in doing
these sorts of events, when they know their local conditions better than the
Board, so we support the Chapter efforts. Hope to see you at one or more- J
DeRyke, POCA Newsletter Ed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Pink <robpink2012 at gmail.com>
> To: marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: fresnofinches <fresnofinches at aol.com>; detomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; mikeldrew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 22, 2018 5:36 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
>
> Didnat I see an event in Florida for October this year in the POCA
> Magazine?
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM marshall smith
> <[1]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Some collaborative effort Julian....."all the financial risk (and any
> reward) falling toA the local sponsoring Chapter." That says it all.
> M
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 6/21/18, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES A To:
> "[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com" <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>,
> "[5]cengles at cox.net" <[6]cengles at cox.net>, "j R"
> <[7]pantera351 at yahoo.com>, "marshall smith"
> <[8]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> A Cc: "[9]mikeldrew at aol.com" <[10]mikeldrew at aol.com>,
> "[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "[13]fresnofinches at aol.com"
> <[14]fresnofinches at aol.com>
> A Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018, 2:59 PM A I don't A disagree with
> that, although a collaborative rather than A competitive arena will
> see far more success for all.
> A We also need to be
> A clear what is and isn't a POCA sanctioned and sponsored A event,
> although on that latter point the latestA BoD minutes A released today
> would suggest none of them will be sponsored A going forward, all the
> A financial risk (and any reward) falling toA the local A sponsoring
> Chapter. That might see less Chapter's A willing to step up
> (especially the smaller regions)A and put A on a RallyA and thenA begs
> the question why do we A evenA haveA a central organization and where
> will A the membership funding go? It's just one more nail in A the
> coffin IMO.
> A Julian
> A From: DeTomaso
> A <[15]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf A of
> marshall smith <[16]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> A Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:47 PM A To: [17]jjdetrich at gmail.com;
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> [20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [21]fresnofinches at aol.com A
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY A DATES A A A We've A done
> that for thirtysomething years. It's time for more A than one rally
> per year and in more areas of the country!
> A Marshall
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Comeoncurt
Get rid of those 5 ft 6 inch Italian seats
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
4038604300
-------- Original message --------
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
Date: 2018-06-22 8:02 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: billmoore6480 at gmail.com, 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
Ah Bill...Not all on us have Bun of Steel! Lol
[1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Bill Moore
<billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
Julian:
Comeonman...... Cali don't travel......
5000 plus miles this year
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: June-22-18 5:44 PM
To: [3]jderyke at aol.com; Mike Drew; [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc: [5]fresnofinches at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
Mike,
That is my understanding, but I'm trying to obtain some further
clarification as it would appear Reno Tahoe Pantera's is taking on some
not
insignificant financial risks as a small chapter and especially as we
will
be in direct competition for attendees with the Forza event. I'm also
trying
to clarify the Fun Rally raffle situation as I assume the Chapter would
run
and benefit from that wholly in an effort to break even.
The bigger question is if POCA is not sponsoring events, what is the
amassed
$125K of central funds going to do? I would forward a motion that if
POCA is
decentralizing to the Chapters then the bulk of the membership funds
should
be redistributed to the those Chapters and future membership renewals
likewise, with only a token to cover publications going to POCA
central.
Funny how this is all now happening after a fairly disastrous Vegas
Rally,
not supported by any Chapter! Personally I think if all this is true
then
POCA just cut it's own throat, quite sad.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of Mike
Drew via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:14 PM
To: [8]jderyke at aol.com
Cc: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [10]fresnofinches at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
Jack,
All the events you mention were/are great, but they are deliberately
smaller
regional events, unlike the POCA Fun Rally which is supposed to be THE
national event.
Are you saying the board has decided to abdicate that responsibility
and
there will only be regional events from now on, staged by the chapters?
That would be a very sad state of affairs if it was true. I'm hoping I
misunderstood you?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 22, 2018, at 4:03 PM, [11]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>
> Yes, Robert- the Florida event you refer to is a Chapter-run event
called
'The First DeTomasos United East Coast Fun Rally. It is to be entirely
run
by volunteers from the South-East Pantera Chapter of POCA over Oct
18-21.
There are probably enough Panteras in FL and the southeast U.S. to make
it
financially feasible. The 2019 Reno Event will be of the same type held
in
the West, also run entirely by a POCA Chapter who will reap any rewards
for
this sort of event. In previous years, such events were sponsored by
Great
Lakes Panteras Chapter in the mId-West and even earlier on the East
Coast by
the PONE Chapter and the Jersey Panteras Chapter.
>
> The Board decided that POCA should not compete with the Chapters in
doing
these sorts of events, when they know their local conditions better
than the
Board, so we support the Chapter efforts. Hope to see you at one or
more- J
DeRyke, POCA Newsletter Ed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Pink <[12]robpink2012 at gmail.com>
> To: marshall smith <[13]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: fresnofinches <[14]fresnofinches at aol.com>; detomaso
> <[15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; mikeldrew
<[16]mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 22, 2018 5:36 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES
>
> Didnat I see an event in Florida for October this year in the POCA
> Magazine?
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM marshall smith
> <[1][17]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Some collaborative effort Julian....."all the financial risk (and any
> reward) falling toA the local sponsoring Chapter." That says it all.
> M
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 6/21/18, Julian Kift <[2][18]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY DATES A To:
> "[3][19]jjdetrich at gmail.com" <[4][20]jjdetrich at gmail.com>,
> "[5][21]cengles at cox.net" <[6][22]cengles at cox.net>, "j R"
> <[7][23]pantera351 at yahoo.com>, "marshall smith"
> <[8][24]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> A Cc: "[9][25]mikeldrew at aol.com" <[10][26]mikeldrew at aol.com>,
> "[11][27]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <[12][28]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
"[13][29]fresnofinches at aol.com"
> <[14][30]fresnofinches at aol.com>
> A Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018, 2:59 PM A I don't A disagree with
> that, although a collaborative rather than A competitive arena will
> see far more success for all.
> A We also need to be
> A clear what is and isn't a POCA sanctioned and sponsored A event,
> although on that latter point the latestA BoD minutes A released
today
> would suggest none of them will be sponsored A going forward, all the
> A financial risk (and any reward) falling toA the local A sponsoring
> Chapter. That might see less Chapter's A willing to step up
> (especially the smaller regions)A and put A on a RallyA and thenA
begs
> the question why do we A evenA haveA a central organization and where
> will A the membership funding go? It's just one more nail in A the
> coffin IMO.
> A Julian
> A From: DeTomaso
> A <[15][31]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf A of
> marshall smith <[16][32]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> A Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:47 PM A To:
[17][33]jjdetrich at gmail.com;
> [18][34]cengles at cox.net; j R A Cc: [19][35]mikeldrew at aol.com; A
> [20][36]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
[21][37]fresnofinches at aol.com A
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2019 POCA FUN RALLY A DATES A A A We've A
done
> that for thirtysomething years. It's time for more A than one rally
> per year and in more areas of the country!
> A Marshall
> A --------------------------------------------
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