[DeTomaso] New Zealand cars...

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 23 18:33:39 EDT 2018


But the coaches WERE built by De Tomaso and have underlying De Tomaso VIN's, but simply shipped less engine and transmission. An Amerisport Pantera is as much a De Tomaso as any De Tomaso IMO and I think that fact would be backed up by sales prices!


Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 3:28 PM
To: Himes, Terry (397C); The DeTomaso Registry Guy; 'Mike Drew'; 'Ed Mendez'
Cc: 'DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Zealand cars...

Then Amerisport GT-5S Pantera’s would also NOT qualify.

On 7/23/18, 1:17 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C)"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

>I vote NO.  No clone cars in registry. They are certainly very very
>welcome to the Pantera family.
>But the registry should be for DeTomoaso built cars only.  IMHO
><flame throwers on!:>
>
>
>
>"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
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>
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>On 7/23/18, 12:27 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
><detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>    I have changed the subject to NZ cars...
>    I would guess Ed might know of a NZ car not in the registry yet, or
>vice versa.
>
>    I see 4 on the Unknowns List, (meaning the VIN is unknown on 4), the
>rest have been 'VIN'
>    identified.
>
>    One of those 4 could be the Kit Copy, but I have looked at these 4
>and all look to
>    be DeTomaso-built.
>
>    Any idea Ed which is the Kit car ? Or a car that is not in the
>registry.
>
>    (Which brings up the topic of "Should clone cars be in the Registry" ?
>
>
>
>    For the list guy that could not find the search page: (English is not
>his home language) ;
>
>    www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/SearchRegistryMain.asp<http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/SearchRegistryMain.asp>
>
>    Click "Search By Feature" (Where Location is the first parameter on
>the list...)
>
>    Click on "Country", it is the first link...
>
>    Select from the drag down; "New Zealand"
>
>    Click "Submit".
>
>    A list of cars in the selected "Location" is displayed... and a total
>count follows.
>
>
>
>    Chuck
>
>
>
>
>    Ed,
>
>    It's likely there are cars in the registry that are off your radar.
>Search the registry by country and identify the ones that are
>    unknown to you?
>
>    Mike
>
>    Sent from my iPad
>
>    > On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:02, Ed Mendez via DeTomaso
><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>    >
>    > When I was living there 2 years ago, there were 14 and 1 fiberglass
>replica kit car, that included my two, the one Shelby Pantera
>    and the Sultan of Brunei's right hand drive GTS . I brought 2152 back
>to the states, leaving 13, one black one sold to Australia
>    leaving 12, this blue one sold to UK, leaving 11. My 3072 is still
>there.
>    >
>    > I'll see if I can get an accurate count and updates for you.
>    >
>    > Ed
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >> On Jul 23, 2018, at 12:47, The DeTomaso Registry Guy
><detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>    >>
>    >> Wait!
>    >>
>    >> After 4355 went to the UK auction, the registry still has 15
>Panteras in New Zealand.
>    >>
>    >> Did you update the registry for 3072 ?  (Is she back in the US ?)
>    >>
>    >> If you do a "Search By Country", you will spot the 4 cars needing
>an update.
>    >>
>    >> Let me know.
>    >>
>    >> Chuck
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> That was my friend Chris Wilson's car. Very nice car, it was a
>bare metal nut and bolt restoration. Shame he sold it. There are
>    now
>    >> 11 Panteras left in NZ.
>    >>
>    >> Ed
>    >>
>    >>> On Jul 22, 2018, at 01:27, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>    >>>
>    >>> All,
>    >>>
>    >>> #4355 just sold in the UK. Very nice car formerly owned by a guy
>in New
>    >>> Zealand who did a very nice restoration, apart from painting it
>the
>    >>> wrong color by accident, and forgetting to finish it by painting
>the
>    >>> rockers etc satin black.
>    >>>
>    >>> Pics in the registry, or by Googling `Silverstone Auctions
>Pantera'
>    >>>
>    >>> Cheers!
>    >>>
>    >>> Mike
>    >>> Sent from my iPad
>    >>> Begin forwarded message:
>    >>>
>    >>> From: [1]info at hammerpricelive.com
>    >>> Date: July 21, 2018 at 23:02:24 PDT
>    >>> To: [2]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>    >>> Subject: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday, July 22, 2018
>    >>>
>    >>> Hammer Price : Auction Results In Real Time
>    >>> Portfolio Report Sunday, July 22, 2018
>    >>> Pantera
>    >>> 1.
>    >>> 1972 DeTomaso Sold $95,798 USD
>    >>> Pantera EST. PRICE $73.49K-$86.61K USD
>    >>> EXTERIOR Grabber Blue
>    >>> Silverstone Auctions
>    >>> INTERIOR Black
>    >>> Lot 506    Silverstone Classic: Classic Car Sale
>    >>> ODOMETER 82000 mi
>    >>> CHASSIS N-o THPNML04355
>    >>> July 21, 2018    9:55AM (EST)
>    >>> De Tomaso
>    >>> 1.
>    >>> 1972 DeTomaso Sold $95,798 USD
>    >>> Pantera EST. PRICE $73.49K-$86.61K USD
>    >>> EXTERIOR Grabber Blue
>    >>> Silverstone Auctions
>    >>> INTERIOR Black
>    >>> Lot 506    Silverstone Classic: Classic Car Sale
>    >>> ODOMETER 82000 mi
>    >>> CHASSIS N-o THPNML04355
>    >>> July 21, 2018    9:55AM (EST)
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   But the coaches WERE built by De Tomaso and have underlying De Tomaso
   VIN's, but simply shipped less engine and transmission. An Amerisport
   Pantera is as much a De Tomaso as any De Tomaso IMO and I think that
   fact would be backed up by sales prices!

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 3:28 PM
   To: Himes, Terry (397C); The DeTomaso Registry Guy; 'Mike Drew'; 'Ed
   Mendez'
   Cc: 'DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com'
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Zealand cars...

   Then Amerisport GT-5S Pantera's would also NOT qualify.
   On 7/23/18, 1:17 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
   >I vote NO.  No clone cars in registry. They are certainly very very
   >welcome to the Pantera family.
   >But the registry should be for DeTomoaso built cars only.  IMHO
   ><flame throwers on!:>
   >
   >
   >
   >"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   >
   >Terry W. Himes
   >JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >Dawn Spacecraft Team
   >Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   >Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >Cell:     (818) 653-8213
   >thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
   >
   >On 7/23/18, 12:27 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry
   Guy"
   ><detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   >detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >    I have changed the subject to NZ cars...
   >    I would guess Ed might know of a NZ car not in the registry yet,
   or
   >vice versa.
   >
   >    I see 4 on the Unknowns List, (meaning the VIN is unknown on 4),
   the
   >rest have been 'VIN'
   >    identified.
   >
   >    One of those 4 could be the Kit Copy, but I have looked at these 4
   >and all look to
   >    be DeTomaso-built.
   >
   >    Any idea Ed which is the Kit car ? Or a car that is not in the
   >registry.
   >
   >    (Which brings up the topic of "Should clone cars be in the
   Registry" ?
   >
   >
   >
   >    For the list guy that could not find the search page: (English is
   not
   >his home language) ;
   >
   >    [1]www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/SearchRegistryMain.asp
   >
   >    Click "Search By Feature" (Where Location is the first parameter
   on
   >the list...)
   >
   >    Click on "Country", it is the first link...
   >
   >    Select from the drag down; "New Zealand"
   >
   >    Click "Submit".
   >
   >    A list of cars in the selected "Location" is displayed... and a
   total
   >count follows.
   >
   >
   >
   >    Chuck
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >    Ed,
   >
   >    It's likely there are cars in the registry that are off your
   radar.
   >Search the registry by country and identify the ones that are
   >    unknown to you?
   >
   >    Mike
   >
   >    Sent from my iPad
   >
   >    > On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:02, Ed Mendez via DeTomaso
   ><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >    >
   >    > When I was living there 2 years ago, there were 14 and 1
   fiberglass
   >replica kit car, that included my two, the one Shelby Pantera
   >    and the Sultan of Brunei's right hand drive GTS . I brought 2152
   back
   >to the states, leaving 13, one black one sold to Australia
   >    leaving 12, this blue one sold to UK, leaving 11. My 3072 is still
   >there.
   >    >
   >    > I'll see if I can get an accurate count and updates for you.
   >    >
   >    > Ed
   >    >
   >    >
   >    >
   >    >> On Jul 23, 2018, at 12:47, The DeTomaso Registry Guy
   ><detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
   >    >>
   >    >> Wait!
   >    >>
   >    >> After 4355 went to the UK auction, the registry still has 15
   >Panteras in New Zealand.
   >    >>
   >    >> Did you update the registry for 3072 ?  (Is she back in the US
   ?)
   >    >>
   >    >> If you do a "Search By Country", you will spot the 4 cars
   needing
   >an update.
   >    >>
   >    >> Let me know.
   >    >>
   >    >> Chuck
   >    >>
   >    >>
   >    >>
   >    >> That was my friend Chris Wilson's car. Very nice car, it was a
   >bare metal nut and bolt restoration. Shame he sold it. There are
   >    now
   >    >> 11 Panteras left in NZ.
   >    >>
   >    >> Ed
   >    >>
   >    >>> On Jul 22, 2018, at 01:27, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   ><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >    >>>
   >    >>> All,
   >    >>>
   >    >>> #4355 just sold in the UK. Very nice car formerly owned by a
   guy
   >in New
   >    >>> Zealand who did a very nice restoration, apart from painting
   it
   >the
   >    >>> wrong color by accident, and forgetting to finish it by
   painting
   >the
   >    >>> rockers etc satin black.
   >    >>>
   >    >>> Pics in the registry, or by Googling `Silverstone Auctions
   >Pantera'
   >    >>>
   >    >>> Cheers!
   >    >>>
   >    >>> Mike
   >    >>> Sent from my iPad
   >    >>> Begin forwarded message:
   >    >>>
   >    >>> From: [1]info at hammerpricelive.com
   >    >>> Date: July 21, 2018 at 23:02:24 PDT
   >    >>> To: [2]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   >    >>> Subject: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday, July 22, 2018
   >    >>>
   >    >>> Hammer Price : Auction Results In Real Time
   >    >>> Portfolio Report Sunday, July 22, 2018
   >    >>> Pantera
   >    >>> 1.
   >    >>> 1972 DeTomaso Sold $95,798 USD
   >    >>> Pantera EST. PRICE $73.49K-$86.61K USD
   >    >>> EXTERIOR Grabber Blue
   >    >>> Silverstone Auctions
   >    >>> INTERIOR Black
   >    >>> Lot 506    Silverstone Classic: Classic Car Sale
   >    >>> ODOMETER 82000 mi
   >    >>> CHASSIS N-o THPNML04355
   >    >>> July 21, 2018    9:55AM (EST)
   >    >>> De Tomaso
   >    >>> 1.
   >    >>> 1972 DeTomaso Sold $95,798 USD
   >    >>> Pantera EST. PRICE $73.49K-$86.61K USD
   >    >>> EXTERIOR Grabber Blue
   >    >>> Silverstone Auctions
   >    >>> INTERIOR Black
   >    >>> Lot 506    Silverstone Classic: Classic Car Sale
   >    >>> ODOMETER 82000 mi
   >    >>> CHASSIS N-o THPNML04355
   >    >>> July 21, 2018    9:55AM (EST)
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   preferences
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