[DeTomaso] Spinning wheel stud
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
byrdjf at embarqmail.com
Sun Jul 15 19:42:16 EDT 2018
It is good to cool down and not get aggravated.
You don’t have to give up on using a wedge to jam the head. Unless you have machined the head round to the minor diameter, there will be some eccentricity..
The trick would be to fit the end of the screwdriver to be a snug fit into the gap. Using valve lapping compound on the end of the driver, when you tap it in will also help it lock up
From: sean mundy [mailto:seanmundy at hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 19:19 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spinning wheel stud
Thanks for the help I got one of them off!! I was able to get in behind the wheel and see the back of the stud. I can see that its just spinning when I wrench it. I wedged a large flat blade screwdriver and turned the lug nut until it caught the flat section on the back of the stud. It stuck enough and I was able to turn the lug nut loose. Unfortunately I tried the same technique on the other stud and all I ended up doing was rounding off the flat porting on the back of the stud so its done. I don't have a welder to tack it in place. I tried wedging the back of the wheel and applying pressure to the lug nut but no workie. My garage is now 103 deg so I am going to chill out and regroup.
From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 3:54 PM
To: 'sean mundy' <mailto:seanmundy at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
The primary are the splines that are an "plastic" interference fit, with the flat as additional resistance to rotating at full engagement
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of sean mundy
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 18:29 PM
To: Jeff Kimball
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spinning wheel stud
Are the studs threaded or do they just have one flat side to keep them in place?
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On Jul 15, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Jeff Kimball <jgkrenton at comcast.net <mailto:jgkrenton at comcast.net%3cmailto:jgkrenton at comcast.net> <mailto:jgkrenton at comcast.net>> wrote:
Sean:
Since the other three lugs came off, try prying the wheel away from the hub cocking the wheel a bit. You'll probably need a piece of wood or something that won't damage the wheel. The idea is to put enough load on the studs that the hat on the back of the stud will bind against the axle flange "freezing" the stud and then the impact wrench will loosen the nut. This might take a bit of force and finesse, and several sets of hands.
It's been some time since I've had mine apart, but if you can get the wheel off, you might be able to get a wire-feed or stick welder in there far enough to spot weld the stud and hold it in place until you want to change the studs.
Good luck and don't swear too much!!
Jeff 2467
On July 15, 2018 at 12:41 PM sean mundy wrote:
My weekend project was to remove my rear wheels and check my rear brake pad wear. Oops, 2 of the pside lug nuts just spin and won’t loosen up. It looks like the studs are spinning and stripped. First I have to figure out how to get the lug nuts off. Drilling? I replaced the rear bearings over 10yrs ago so I know what a PITA removing the hub is going to be.. Assume I will need rear disk replacement so what are my affordable options? I’ve spent a lot of time searching the forum for info but its a bit overwhelming. Sean M
My weekend project was to remove my rear wheels and check my rear brake pad wear. Oops, 2 of the pside lug nuts just spin and won't loosen up. It looks like the studs are spinning and stripped. First I have to figure out how to get the lug nuts off. Drilling? I replaced the rear bearings over 10yrs ago so I know what a PITA removing the hub is going to be.. Assume I will need rear disk replacement so what are my affordable options? I've spent a lot of time searching the forum for info but its a bit overwhelming. Sean M _______________________________________________
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It is good to cool down and not get aggravated.
You don't have to give up on using a wedge to jam the head. Unless you
have machined the head round to the minor diameter, there will be some
eccentricity..
The trick would be to fit the end of the screwdriver to be a snug fit
into the gap. Using valve lapping compound on the end of the driver,
when you tap it in will also help it lock up
From: sean mundy [mailto:seanmundy at hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 19:19 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spinning wheel stud
Thanks for the help I got one of them off!! I was able to get in
behind the wheel and see the back of the stud. I can see that its
just spinning when I wrench it. I wedged a large flat blade
screwdriver and turned the lug nut until it caught the flat section on
the back of the stud. It stuck enough and I was able to turn the lug
nut loose. Unfortunately I tried the same technique on the other stud
and all I ended up doing was rounding off the flat porting on the back
of the stud so its done. I don't have a welder to tack it in place.
I tried wedging the back of the wheel and applying pressure to the lug
nut but no workie. My garage is now 103 deg so I am going to chill
out and regroup.
From: [1]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 3:54 PM
To: [2]'sean mundy'
Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
The primary are the splines that are an "plastic" interference fit,
with the flat as additional resistance to rotating at full engagement
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From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf Of sean mundy
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 18:29 PM
To: Jeff Kimball
Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spinning wheel stud
Are the studs threaded or do they just have one flat side to keep them
in place?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 15, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Jeff Kimball
<[6]jgkrenton at comcast.net<mailto:jgkrenton at comcast.net>> wrote:
Sean:
Since the other three lugs came off, try prying the wheel away from the
hub cocking the wheel a bit. You'll probably need a piece of wood or
something that won't damage the wheel. The idea is to put enough load
on the studs that the hat on the back of the stud will bind against the
axle flange "freezing" the stud and then the impact wrench will loosen
the nut. This might take a bit of force and finesse, and several sets
of hands.
It's been some time since I've had mine apart, but if you can get the
wheel off, you might be able to get a wire-feed or stick welder in
there far enough to spot weld the stud and hold it in place until you
want to change the studs.
Good luck and don't swear too much!!
Jeff 2467
On July 15, 2018 at 12:41 PM sean mundy wrote:
My weekend project was to remove my rear wheels and check my rear brake
pad wear. Oops, 2 of the pside lug nuts just spin and won't loosen up.
It looks like the studs are spinning and stripped. First I have to
figure out how to get the lug nuts off. Drilling? I replaced the rear
bearings over 10yrs ago so I know what a PITA removing the hub is going
to be.. Assume I will need rear disk replacement so what are my
affordable options? I've spent a lot of time searching the forum for
info but its a bit overwhelming. Sean M
My weekend project was to remove my rear wheels and check my rear brake
pad wear. Oops, 2 of the pside lug nuts just spin and won't loosen up.
It looks like the studs are spinning and stripped. First I have to
figure out how to get the lug nuts off. Drilling? I replaced the rear
bearings over 10yrs ago so I know what a PITA removing the hub is going
to be.. Assume I will need rear disk replacement so what are my
affordable options? I've spent a lot of time searching the forum for
info but its a bit overwhelming. Sean M
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