[DeTomaso] BAT Pantera question

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sun Jul 1 17:37:14 EDT 2018


Matt,

The De Tomaso parts book doesn’t show them, but the Ford book shows them clearly. There were numerous gussets welded to the chassis to reinforce the A-arm and shock mounts, as well as strengtheners under the dash. These were only added to the US-spec early cars (1971 flat decklid) as part of the extensive recall campaign. Hundreds of cars were comprehensively dismantled (engine out, suspension removed, dashboard removed) and modified by Ford before they were released to the dealers for sale. There was some number of cars (less than a hundred I think) that had already been delivered to customers and had to be recalled. Some of those were fixed at the owner’s house by specialized mobile repair teams....

Mike

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> On Jul 1, 2018, at 20:05, Matt <nwpantera at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> Thank you for the insight everyone. So there are brackets on the backside secured with rivets and welded? And why specifically were they added? And where is all over the place?
> Sorry for all the questions but inquiring minds need to know! I'm just trying to learn as much as I can.
> You are all very kind to share your knowledge and it is appreciated. 
> Hope you're enjoying France Mike. My short stay there was an enlightening experience that I will always cherish.
> Aimer la vie!
> Merci,
> Matt
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> This isn’t from ‘someone’.
>> 
>> All US-spec 1971 Panteras have these. As part of Ford’s recap program, gussets were added and welded all over the place. There were a pair of brackets that were riveted in place on either side. 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Jul 1, 2018, at 00:18, Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Those holes are too far back for the rigidity kit, it wouldn’t fit on the other side. I have the triangular piece and I mounts further forward. At least that’s how it looks in the picture. Someone must have had something else mounted there. 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Jun 30, 2018, at 17:05, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Looks like somebody needed to fill the holes from one of those frame stiffener kits, now removed.  
>> >> Mike Thomas
>> >> Pres., Panteras Northwest
>> >> 206-795-3302
>> >> Yellow ’74 #6328
>> >> www.panterasnorthwest.com
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Matt
>> >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:49 PM
>> >> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT Pantera question
>> >> 
>> >> The car that is currently for auction on BAT has some triangle pattern screws in the front compartment.
>> >> Is this stock and something common to earlier cars?
>> >> I don't recall seeing these before. I asked the seller about them and he did not know.
>> >> Does anybody have an answer?
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Matt
>> >> 3584
>> >> 
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   Matt,

   The De Tomaso parts book doesn't show them, but the Ford book shows
   them clearly. There were numerous gussets welded to the chassis to
   reinforce the A-arm and shock mounts, as well as strengtheners under
   the dash. These were only added to the US-spec early cars (1971 flat
   decklid) as part of the extensive recall campaign. Hundreds of cars
   were comprehensively dismantled (engine out, suspension removed,
   dashboard removed) and modified by Ford before they were released to
   the dealers for sale. There was some number of cars (less than a
   hundred I think) that had already been delivered to customers and had
   to be recalled. Some of those were fixed at the owner's house by
   specialized mobile repair teams....

   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   On Jul 1, 2018, at 20:05, Matt <[1]nwpantera at gmail.com> wrote:

   Hi Mike,
   Thank you for the insight everyone. So there are brackets on the
   backside secured with rivets and welded? And why specifically were they
   added? And where is all over the place?
   Sorry for all the questions but inquiring minds need to know! I'm just
   trying to learn as much as I can.
   You are all very kind to share your knowledge and it is appreciated.
   Hope you're enjoying France Mike. My short stay there was an
   enlightening experience that I will always cherish.
   Aimer la vie!
   Merci,
   Matt
   On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     All,
     This isn't from `someone'.
     All US-spec 1971 Panteras have these. As part of Ford's recap
     program, gussets were added and welded all over the place. There
     were a pair of brackets that were riveted in place on either side.
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad

   > On Jul 1, 2018, at 00:18, Richard Greenblum
   <[3]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
   >
   > Those holes are too far back for the rigidity kit, it wouldn't fit on
   the other side. I have the triangular piece and I mounts further
   forward. At least that's how it looks in the picture. Someone must have
   had something else mounted there.
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >> On Jun 30, 2018, at 17:05, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
   <[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
   >>
   >> Looks like somebody needed to fill the holes from one of those frame
   stiffener kits, now removed.
   >> Mike Thomas
   >> Pres., Panteras Northwest
   >> 206-795-3302
   >> Yellow '74 #6328
   >> [5]www.panterasnorthwest.com
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> -----Original Message-----
   >> From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
   Behalf Of Matt
   >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:49 PM
   >> To: DeTomaso Mail List <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >> Subject: [DeTomaso] BAT Pantera question
   >>
   >> The car that is currently for auction on BAT has some triangle
   pattern screws in the front compartment.
   >> Is this stock and something common to earlier cars?
   >> I don't recall seeing these before. I asked the seller about them
   and he did not know.
   >> Does anybody have an answer?
   >> Thanks,
   >> Matt
   >> 3584
   >>
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References

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   3. mailto:richard at richardgreenblum.com
   4. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
   5. http://www.panterasnorthwest.com/
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