[DeTomaso] Pantera facts?

jderyke at aol.com jderyke at aol.com
Sun Jan 28 18:59:45 EST 2018


Not much- but you do need to pull the dash at least part way back, to access the fastening nuts and unplug the warning light & gauge panel illumination wires. Then add a third foam doughnut between the dash & heater/AC box. You can easily make the doughnuts with scissors & stuff it in place after the dash is back in place. You'll need to locate a 3rd dash vent from a vendor or if you locate a '71 Lincoln in a wrecking yard, for symmetry.  Lighting the 4 gauges can be done by boring a hole in each gauge for a plug-in socket, and ganging the lights' power wire back to the fuse box, or maybe hooking them up to the original light wire. Not sure how you'd rig it so the gauge dimmer will work, but then I never claimed to be good at wiring....Good luck- J DeRyke



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From: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
To: jderyke <jderyke at aol.com>; gt40 <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>; detomaso <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 27, 2018 10:05 pm
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Interesting...I'd rather have a third vent than a dumb seat-belt light (which I disconnected anyway).  How much of a job is it to add that middle vent?




Thanks,




Chris




From: jderyke at aol.com <jderyke at aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:59 PM
To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net; ChrisVKimball at msn.com; detomaso at detomasolist.com
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Don't read too much into the kph speedo; I've sold a couple of them I accidentally came across to people who simply find them attractive. And ALL 2-pod-dash Panteras had three 'vents' in the dash. Most have a triangular upholstered bulge with a gauge light & the seatbelt warning light covering the unused center outlet, but that light-mount is only bolted on and can be easily removed so the vent hole underneath becomes functional. You're right- the car is not stock but is slightly customized inside & out: the hibachi-vents on the hood show that.  And the Ferrari-copy 'boxer' spoiler on the deck isn't even painted- I suspect it's a recent addition. Attractive car nonetheless- J Deryke

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Sent: Sat, Jan 27, 2018 9:42 pm
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Well even I know the "interior and body are - NOT - totally stock."
(steering wheel & roof spoiler)

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kimball
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:19 PM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera facts?

Somebody help me out here--this Pantera is advertised as "most likely"
having original paint, and is titled as a '71, but there are some things
that don't add up to me (maybe Mike can explain them).


It has kph speedo, it has three air vents in the middle of the dash which I
thought was found on later models, yet it's a two-pod which is found on
earlier models, I'm not sure what the "front fiberglass tray" is all about
(I think he means the rear tub), and I got a kick out of the description of
the "original radio" since I was under the impression none had radios from
the factory but were installed at the dealerships. The picture also looks
like the paint has pinstriping, but maybe it's just the way it looks in the
picture.


Could this be some European model with which I'm not familiar?

Thanks,


Chris


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   Not much- but you do need to pull the dash at least part way back, to
   access the fastening nuts and unplug the warning light & gauge panel
   illumination wires. Then add a third foam doughnut between the dash &
   heater/AC box. You can easily make the doughnuts with scissors & stuff
   it in place after the dash is back in place. You'll need to locate a
   3rd dash vent from a vendor or if you locate a '71 Lincoln in a
   wrecking yard, for symmetry.  Lighting the 4 gauges can be done by
   boring a hole in each gauge for a plug-in socket, and ganging the
   lights' power wire back to the fuse box, or maybe hooking them up to
   the original light wire. Not sure how you'd rig it so the gauge dimmer
   will work, but then I never claimed to be good at wiring....Good luck-
   J DeRyke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
   To: jderyke <jderyke at aol.com>; gt40 <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>; detomaso
   <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sat, Jan 27, 2018 10:05 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera facts?

   Interesting...I'd rather have a third vent than a dumb seat-belt light
   (which I disconnected anyway).  How much of a job is it to add that
   middle vent?

   Thanks,

   Chris
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   From: [1]jderyke at aol.com <[2]jderyke at aol.com>
   Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:59 PM
   To: [3]gt40 at sbcglobal.net; [4]ChrisVKimball at msn.com;
   [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera facts?

   Don't read too much into the kph speedo; I've sold a couple of them I
   accidentally came across to people who simply find them attractive. And
   ALL 2-pod-dash Panteras had three 'vents' in the dash. Most have a
   triangular upholstered bulge with a gauge light & the seatbelt warning
   light covering the unused center outlet, but that light-mount is only
   bolted on and can be easily removed so the vent hole underneath becomes
   functional. You're right- the car is not stock but is slightly
   customized inside & out: the hibachi-vents on the hood show that.  And
   the Ferrari-copy 'boxer' spoiler on the deck isn't even painted- I
   suspect it's a recent addition. Attractive car nonetheless- J Deryke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: gt40 <[6]gt40 at sbcglobal.net>
   To: Christopher Kimball <[7]ChrisVKimball at msn.com>; Detomaso Email List
   <[8]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sat, Jan 27, 2018 9:42 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera facts?
   Well even I know the "interior and body are - NOT - totally stock."
   (steering wheel & roof spoiler)
   John
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Christopher Kimball
   Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:19 PM
   To: Detomaso Email List
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera facts?
   Somebody help me out here--this Pantera is advertised as "most likely"
   having original paint, and is titled as a '71, but there are some
   things
   that don't add up to me (maybe Mike can explain them).
   It has kph speedo, it has three air vents in the middle of the dash
   which I
   thought was found on later models, yet it's a two-pod which is found on
   earlier models, I'm not sure what the "front fiberglass tray" is all
   about
   (I think he means the rear tub), and I got a kick out of the
   description of
   the "original radio" since I was under the impression none had radios
   from
   the factory but were installed at the dealerships. The picture also
   looks
   like the paint has pinstriping, but maybe it's just the way it looks in
   the
   picture.
   Could this be some European model with which I'm not familiar?
   Thanks,
   Chris
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   1971 DeTomaso Pantera - Dobson
   Motorsport<[11]https://dobsonmotorsport.com/car/1971-detomaso-pantera/>
   dobsonmotorsport.com
   This amazing car was designed by the Italian design firm Ghia by
   American
   born designer Tom Tjaarda and replaced the De Tomaso Mangusta. Unlike
   the
   Mangusta, which ...
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