[DeTomaso] NPC: space radiation and the interplanetary sports car fate
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 8 13:10:03 EST 2018
Not in the least bit helped by the fact it is carbon fiber construction....
Julian
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<< If the Tesla crashed into Ceres and landed in Cerian ice, then could it
rust?????>>
I would think not as you still need oxygen for it to rust. Look at some of
the things found very very deep in the oceans where there is very little
oxygen. Not as rusty as one would think.
Larry (lives in rust) - Cleveland
Thank you,
Larry Homolak | 330-467-2430 | 330-467-9560 fax | Specialist
Ohio Time Corp 9401 Olde Eight Rd. Northfield, Ohio 44067
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: space radiation and the interplanetary sports
car fate
Dear Terry and Larry,
Thank you very much for your replies.
Larry-- Egad, I forgot about the warranty coverage!
You're right.
Terry--I would be eager to hear your "Wheels on Mars"
presentation at the Fun Rally.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
PS: If the Tesla crashed into Ceres and landed in Cerian ice, then
could it rust?????
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:
> Ha! Chuck is baiting me. He knows I'll take it. ;-)
>
> First, I'm a computer science major and a spacecraft system engineer.
> So.
>
> But with no oxygen there is probably no rust. But radiation will
> eventually breakdown the metal structure, causing it to become brittle
> and fracture. Ionization. But it's not quick. Electronics are more
> susceptible to
> this, which is why we must fly RAD-hardened electronics, avionics and
> science instruments. Humans, going beyond our magnetosphere (1m miles
> out) will be susceptible to intense radiation, as it will breakdown
> human DNA and cause rapid cancer. Which is why Elon is NOT signing up
> for his trip to Mars! Smart. ;-)
>
> On another note, we calculated the trajectory of the spaceship Tesla,
> and it might come close to the dwarf planet Ceres, where our Dawn
> spacecraft is now. We don't want anything impacting Ceres until
> we can send a lander there and investigate Occator crater and that
> white stuff. Ceres has LOTS of water!!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJiw2NxqoBU&t=2s
>
> My current Mission Manager:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBiUWI1EesE
>
> Rover Status - Wheels On Mars:
> A presentation I've always wanted to give to POCA. We are closely
> monitoring wheel damage. These wheels
> were milled from blocks of solid aluminum, but are super thin. This
> was done to reduce mass, to escape the gravity well we call Earth.
> But the pointy lava rock on the way up Mt Sharp has done some major
> damage.
>
> We are now building Mars2020, here at JPL. It's the next rover. A test
> rover has been running around our Mars Yard for weeks now. The new
> Flight Software (FSW) is learning how to drive more autonomously.
> Ok. Gotta get back to work.
>
> ciao4now
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
>
> On 2/8/18, 7:32 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of cengles at cox.net"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Forum,
> I am hoping for Terry Himes comment about the
> news item regarding the interplanetary Tesla sports car headed
> toward the asteroid belt. The new item says that, "scientists
> believe that radiation will tear the car into pieces within a
> year."
> Can this be true? Radiation tearing a car into
> pieces just like comic book stories??
> Can this be 21st century sports car equivalent
> of.....rust????
> Curious, Chuck Engles
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Not in the least bit helped by the fact it is carbon fiber
construction....
Julian
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Larry-Ohio Time Corp <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 10:01 AM
To: cengles at cox.net; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: space radiation and the interplanetary
sports car fate
<< If the Tesla crashed into Ceres and landed in Cerian ice, then could
it
rust?????>>
I would think not as you still need oxygen for it to rust. Look at
some of
the things found very very deep in the oceans where there is very
little
oxygen. Not as rusty as one would think.
Larry (lives in rust) - Cleveland
Thank you,
Larry Homolak | 330-467-2430 | 330-467-9560 fax | Specialist
Ohio Time Corp 9401 Olde Eight Rd. Northfield, Ohio 44067
ohiotimecorp.com - human capital management services & technology
payroll - time & attendance - HR management - benefits - talent
acquisition/management
making technology and people one since 1976
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Sent: February 08, 2018 12:43 PM
To: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: space radiation and the interplanetary
sports
car fate
Dear Terry and Larry,
Thank you very much for your replies.
Larry-- Egad, I forgot about the warranty coverage!
You're right.
Terry--I would be eager to hear your "Wheels on Mars"
presentation at the Fun Rally.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
PS: If the Tesla crashed into Ceres and landed in Cerian ice, then
could it rust?????
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:
> Ha! Chuck is baiting me. He knows I'll take it. ;-)
>
> First, I'm a computer science major and a spacecraft system engineer.
> So.
>
> But with no oxygen there is probably no rust. But radiation will
> eventually breakdown the metal structure, causing it to become
brittle
> and fracture. Ionization. But it's not quick. Electronics are more
> susceptible to
> this, which is why we must fly RAD-hardened electronics, avionics and
> science instruments. Humans, going beyond our magnetosphere (1m miles
> out) will be susceptible to intense radiation, as it will breakdown
> human DNA and cause rapid cancer. Which is why Elon is NOT signing
up
> for his trip to Mars! Smart. ;-)
>
> On another note, we calculated the trajectory of the spaceship Tesla,
> and it might come close to the dwarf planet Ceres, where our Dawn
> spacecraft is now. We don't want anything impacting Ceres until
> we can send a lander there and investigate Occator crater and that
> white stuff. Ceres has LOTS of water!!
>
> [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJiw2NxqoBU&t=2s
>
> My current Mission Manager:
> [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBiUWI1EesE
>
> Rover Status - Wheels On Mars:
> A presentation I've always wanted to give to POCA. We are closely
> monitoring wheel damage. These wheels
> were milled from blocks of solid aluminum, but are super thin. This
> was done to reduce mass, to escape the gravity well we call Earth.
> But the pointy lava rock on the way up Mt Sharp has done some major
> damage.
>
> We are now building Mars2020, here at JPL. It's the next rover. A
test
> rover has been running around our Mars Yard for weeks now. The new
> Flight Software (FSW) is learning how to drive more autonomously.
> Ok. Gotta get back to work.
>
> ciao4now
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
>
> On 2/8/18, 7:32 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of cengles at cox.net"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Forum,
> I am hoping for Terry Himes comment about the
> news item regarding the interplanetary Tesla sports car headed
> toward the asteroid belt. The new item says that, "scientists
> believe that radiation will tear the car into pieces within a
> year."
> Can this be true? Radiation tearing a car into
> pieces just like comic book stories??
> Can this be 21st century sports car equivalent
> of.....rust????
> Curious, Chuck Engles
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