[DeTomaso] We're all rich!

Thu Dec 6 19:12:22 EST 2018

My license frame reads "It's not a toy, it's an investment!"  At the time I did that as a joke, and boy, was I right!  (the joke part)  😊

Chris
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 2:20 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] We're all rich!

I first have to admit that my parents bought my Pantera for me more than 40
years ago.  I remember telling my dad, a somewhat sophisticated businessman,
that it would be a great investment.  His response was immediate, but
polite: "You don't drive an investment down the road."  He went on to say if
he bought it, it was to drive after it was insured...

Richard
Austin, TX
US GTS #7080

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Larry
Stock
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:46 PM
To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] We're all rich!

Don¹t forget to factor in heated Garage space costs and Insurance on the car
and the Garage, plus maybe some DMV fees. NOPE we don¹t do this as an
investment, we do it out of the love and passion of holding on to such
Dynamic Art pieces.
Larry

On 12/6/18, 1:31 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of audionut--- via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>   "Rich" is in the eye of the beholder?
>
>   Factor in the purchasing power of $1 in 1974 vs. 2018, this person is
>   just about breaking even if the car sells @ $120K.
>   Which is not too bad, really, considering as a whole "cars as
>   investments".  A very small percentage of cars are capable of escaping
>   the merciless vortex of inflation.
>   So, here you have it, clear as day:  You buy a zippy car in 1974, drive
>   it for a few months, park it for 45 years based on speculation that you
>   will at least break even on a long term investment that has provided
>   you (and others) with precious little fun other than having possession
>   of an "art piece" under a cover inside your garage.
>   Makes no sense to me whatsoever.  In terms of what is truly valuable
>   about living life, one would have to chalk this venture up as a net
>   loss.
>   May the buyer of this car not be a similar kind of fool.  May he/she
>   choose to dive into the cockpit and spin the clock on that sucker.
>   (#7346, wow that is the highest domestic market s/n I have ever seen)
>   Sent using Hushmail
>   On 12/6/2018 at 9:25 AM, "Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso"
>   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>     009116d433a30a00d7&esid=f8165778-bef8-e811-821a-000c2971a03a at aol.com
>     , ;
>
>References
>
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>Auc
>tion/lots/r0004-1974-De-Tomaso-Pantera-L-by-Ghia/697502?&utm_source=rms
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   My license frame reads "It's not a toy, it's an investment!"  At the
   time I did that as a joke, and boy, was I right!  (the joke part)

   Chris
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com>
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 2:20 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] We're all rich!

   I first have to admit that my parents bought my Pantera for me more
   than 40
   years ago.  I remember telling my dad, a somewhat sophisticated
   businessman,
   that it would be a great investment.  His response was immediate, but
   polite: "You don't drive an investment down the road."  He went on to
   say if
   he bought it, it was to drive after it was insured...
   Richard
   Austin, TX
   US GTS #7080
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
   Larry
   Stock
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:46 PM
   To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] We're all rich!
   Don^1t forget to factor in heated Garage space costs and Insurance on
   the car
   and the Garage, plus maybe some DMV fees. NOPE we don^1t do this as an
   investment, we do it out of the love and passion of holding on to such
   Dynamic Art pieces.
   Larry
   On 12/6/18, 1:31 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of audionut--- via DeTomaso"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >   "Rich" is in the eye of the beholder?
   >
   >   Factor in the purchasing power of $1 in 1974 vs. 2018, this person
   is
   >   just about breaking even if the car sells @ $120K.
   >   Which is not too bad, really, considering as a whole "cars as
   >   investments".  A very small percentage of cars are capable of
   escaping
   >   the merciless vortex of inflation.
   >   So, here you have it, clear as day:  You buy a zippy car in 1974,
   drive
   >   it for a few months, park it for 45 years based on speculation that
   you
   >   will at least break even on a long term investment that has
   provided
   >   you (and others) with precious little fun other than having
   possession
   >   of an "art piece" under a cover inside your garage.
   >   Makes no sense to me whatsoever.  In terms of what is truly
   valuable
   >   about living life, one would have to chalk this venture up as a net
   >   loss.
   >   May the buyer of this car not be a similar kind of fool.  May
   he/she
   >   choose to dive into the cockpit and spin the clock on that sucker.
   >   (#7346, wow that is the highest domestic market s/n I have ever
   seen)
   >   Sent using Hushmail
   >   On 12/6/2018 at 9:25 AM, "Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso"
   >   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >
   [1]https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frm
   sothebys.com%2Fen%2Fauctions%2FCA18%2FThe-Petersen-Automotive-M&dat
   a=02%7C01%7C%7C88dfe2b3b02a4292a34608d65bc9011a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
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   useum-Auction/lots/r0004-1974-De-Tomaso-Pantera-L-by-Ghia/697502?&ut
   >
   m_source=rmsothebys.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CA18&utm_term=
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   >     , ;
   >
   >References
   >
   >   1.
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