[DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?

sean mundy seanmundy at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 31 16:22:27 EDT 2018


Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able to nail down the noise.
As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt.  Surprisingly the noise disappeared!
The belt is only a couple years old.  Maybe I have it too tight.  I need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner ☹
 I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the squeal noise is back.
I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the issue.  Fingers crossed!!


From: Asa Jay Laughton<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎30‎, ‎2018 ‎10‎:‎03‎ ‎PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

Stranger things...

Water pump
Alternator
A/C compressor

My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod or
main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing in
the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing.  Then I thought about the list above.

Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had been
removed.  Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake, but
that would typically be rhythmic.

Be sure to let us know what you find.
Asa  Jay

Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
******************************
http://w7tsc.org
http://www.teampanteraracing.com

On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote:
> At first I noticed it after it was hot.  I got home and it was not making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it seemed that might be where it was coming from.  Got a lot of good ideas of other things to check now.  Thank you  :)
>
>
>
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was like
>> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
>> whistling noise.  Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
>> venturis.  It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor actually
>> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
>> quell it.  A smoke generator could show any leaks.  Is the motor hot
>> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
>>
>> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
>> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
>> benign-ish.  Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
>> is.
>>
>>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>   I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>>>   from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>>   I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of them is
>>>   bad?
>>>   [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>>   1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
>> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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   Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able to
   nail down the noise.
   As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt.
   Surprisingly the noise disappeared!
   The belt is only a couple years old.  Maybe I have it too tight.
   I need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
    I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
   squeal noise is back.
   I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
   issue.  Fingers crossed!!
   From: [1]Asa Jay Laughton
   Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
   To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Stranger things...
   Water pump
   Alternator
   A/C compressor
   My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod or
   main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing in
   the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing.  Then I thought about the list
   above.
   Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had been
   removed.  Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake, but
   that would typically be rhythmic.
   Be sure to let us know what you find.
   Asa  Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
   ******************************
   http://w7tsc.org
   http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote:
   > At first I noticed it after it was hot.  I got home and it was not
   making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it seemed
   that might be where it was coming from.  Got a lot of good ideas of
   other things to check now.  Thank you  :)
   >
   >
   >
   >> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
   >>
   >> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
   like
   >> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
   >> whistling noise.  Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
   >> venturis.  It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
   actually
   >> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
   >> quell it.  A smoke generator could show any leaks.  Is the motor hot
   >> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
   >>
   >> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
   >> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
   >> benign-ish.  Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
   >> is.
   >>
   >>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy <seanmundy at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >>>   I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly
   coming
   >>>   from.  I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
   >>>   I have roller rockers and lifters.  Is this the sound if one of
   them is
   >>>   bad?
   >>>   [1]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   >>>
   >>> References
   >>>
   >>>   1. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   >>>
   >>
   >> --
   >> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
   >> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
   #1382
   >> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
   >> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P.
   Picasso
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