[DeTomaso] Speedo cable
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Sat Aug 25 18:48:38 EDT 2018
Glad to hear it. Happy Happy
Bill Moore 403-860-4300Calgary, Alberta
-------- Original message --------From: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net> Date: 2018-08-25 4:07 PM (GMT-07:00) To: jderyke at aol.com Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedo cable
> So, just realized there is nothing wrong with my cable!
>
> Once my speedo stopped working I was stupid enough to take the cable of the gauge before even looking at the ZF end of the cable.....
> All what really happened was that cable got undone and disconnected at ZF and then internal wire sled 2 cm back.
> This is why, when I looked at the gauge end of cable it looked as if the end broke off; it was actually just inside the jacket.
>
> I just reconnected both ends and it is all in good order again.
> On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:58 AM, jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>
> Robert, there is no quick-fix. The way speedo cables work is, a spring-wire core runs between the ZF and speedometer, inside a steel jacket against a low-friction poly liner. Most of the time, the core rubbing against the poly liner causes slow wear, eventually going thru the liner. Then the spring-steel core begins rubbing the steel jacket, eventually twisting the spring-core in two. But from what you describe, you may have not a cable problem but a right-angle-drive adapter problem, since the cable apparently broke in the rear? square-drive cable section. If the cable broke at the speedometer end, the gauge may have seized although I never heard of that happening. Pull the speedometer and fish out the broken end- it will need to be removed anyway from whatever end its in for a new assembly to work.
>
> Note- if the broken piece is in the rt angle drive adapter, be VERY careful in removing the parts. The adapter unscrews via the big left/right threaded nut attached to it, NOT the small 10mm bolt just below it. That little bolt, carelessly removed, allows an extension shaft to fall inside your ZF, forcing a total transaxle tear-down to retrieve it.
> Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2018 5:27 am
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedo cable
>
> Just had my speedo cable break, about in the middle of the square end that
> enters into the gauge; I suppose the other part of the square wire is still
> in the gauge.
> I was wondering about possibilities of repairing this without the need of
> taking replacing the whole cable and routing a new one.
>
> 1) seen a comment that this little part could possibly be welded back onto
> the cable; seems it would be a tedious task?
>
> 2) Did someone use any of the generic core replacement, such as this
> https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atp-yc101/applications
> In theory it would be easiest to do by just sliding old core out and new in,
> cutting to length and crimping new end, but not sure if actual dimensions
> would work with our gauge or ZF drive....
>
> Thanks for suggestions; hope there is a simple way to fix this!
>
>
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So, just realized there is nothing wrong with my cable!
Once my speedo stopped working I was stupid enough to take the cable
of the gauge before even looking at the ZF end of the cable.....
All what really happened was that cable got undone and disconnected
at ZF and then internal wire sled 2 cm back.
This is why, when I looked at the gauge end of cable it looked as if
the end broke off; it was actually just inside the jacket.
I just reconnected both ends and it is all in good order again.
On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:58 AM, [1]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
Robert, there is no quick-fix. The way speedo cables work is, a
spring-wire core runs between the ZF and speedometer, inside a steel
jacket against a low-friction poly liner. Most of the time, the core
rubbing against the poly liner causes slow wear, eventually going thru
the liner. Then the spring-steel core begins rubbing the steel jacket,
eventually twisting the spring-core in two. But from what you describe,
you may have not a cable problem but a right-angle-drive adapter
problem, since the cable apparently broke in the rear? square-drive
cable section. If the cable broke at the speedometer end, the gauge
may have seized although I never heard of that happening. Pull the
speedometer and fish out the broken end- it will need to be removed
anyway from whatever end its in for a new assembly to work.
Note- if the broken piece is in the rt angle drive adapter, be VERY
careful in removing the parts. The adapter unscrews via the big
left/right threaded nut attached to it, NOT the small 10mm bolt just
below it. That little bolt, carelessly removed, allows an extension
shaft to fall inside your ZF, forcing a total transaxle tear-down to
retrieve it.
Good luck- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Stroj <[2]npdrs at maui.net>
To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2018 5:27 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedo cable
Just had my speedo cable break, about in the middle of the square end
that
enters into the gauge; I suppose the other part of the square wire is
still
in the gauge.
I was wondering about possibilities of repairing this without the need
of
taking replacing the whole cable and routing a new one.
1) seen a comment that this little part could possibly be welded back
onto
the cable; seems it would be a tedious task?
2) Did someone use any of the generic core replacement, such as this
[4]https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atp-yc101/applications
In theory it would be easiest to do by just sliding old core out and
new in,
cutting to length and crimping new end, but not sure if actual
dimensions
would work with our gauge or ZF drive....
Thanks for suggestions; hope there is a simple way to fix this!
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Glad to hear it. Happy Happy
Bill Moore
403-860-4300
Calgary, Alberta
-------- Original message --------
From: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
Date: 2018-08-25 4:07 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: jderyke at aol.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedo cable
> So, just realized there is nothing wrong with my cable!
>
> Once my speedo stopped working I was stupid enough to take the cable
of the gauge before even looking at the ZF end of the cable.....
> All what really happened was that cable got undone and disconnected
at ZF and then internal wire sled 2 cm back.
> This is why, when I looked at the gauge end of cable it looked as if
the end broke off; it was actually just inside the jacket.
>
> I just reconnected both ends and it is all in good order again.
> On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:58 AM, jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>
> Robert, there is no quick-fix. The way speedo cables work is, a
spring-wire core runs between the ZF and speedometer, inside a steel
jacket against a low-friction poly liner. Most of the time, the core
rubbing against the poly liner causes slow wear, eventually going thru
the liner. Then the spring-steel core begins rubbing the steel jacket,
eventually twisting the spring-core in two. But from what you describe,
you may have not a cable problem but a right-angle-drive adapter
problem, since the cable apparently broke in the rear? square-drive
cable section. If the cable broke at the speedometer end, the gauge
may have seized although I never heard of that happening. Pull the
speedometer and fish out the broken end- it will need to be removed
anyway from whatever end its in for a new assembly to work.
>
> Note- if the broken piece is in the rt angle drive adapter, be VERY
careful in removing the parts. The adapter unscrews via the big
left/right threaded nut attached to it, NOT the small 10mm bolt just
below it. That little bolt, carelessly removed, allows an extension
shaft to fall inside your ZF, forcing a total transaxle tear-down to
retrieve it.
> Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2018 5:27 am
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedo cable
>
> Just had my speedo cable break, about in the middle of the square end
that
> enters into the gauge; I suppose the other part of the square wire is
still
> in the gauge.
> I was wondering about possibilities of repairing this without the
need of
> taking replacing the whole cable and routing a new one.
>
> 1) seen a comment that this little part could possibly be welded back
onto
> the cable; seems it would be a tedious task?
>
> 2) Did someone use any of the generic core replacement, such as this
> https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atp-yc101/applications
> In theory it would be easiest to do by just sliding old core out and
new in,
> cutting to length and crimping new end, but not sure if actual
dimensions
> would work with our gauge or ZF drive....
>
> Thanks for suggestions; hope there is a simple way to fix this!
>
>
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So, just realized there is nothing wrong with my cable!
Once my speedo stopped working I was stupid enough to take the
cable
of the gauge before even looking at the ZF end of the cable.....
All what really happened was that cable got undone and
disconnected
at ZF and then internal wire sled 2 cm back.
This is why, when I looked at the gauge end of cable it looked as
if
the end broke off; it was actually just inside the jacket.
I just reconnected both ends and it is all in good order again.
On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:58 AM, [1]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
Robert, there is no quick-fix. The way speedo cables work is, a
spring-wire core runs between the ZF and speedometer, inside a steel
jacket against a low-friction poly liner. Most of the time, the core
rubbing against the poly liner causes slow wear, eventually going
thru
the liner. Then the spring-steel core begins rubbing the steel
jacket,
eventually twisting the spring-core in two. But from what you
describe,
you may have not a cable problem but a right-angle-drive adapter
problem, since the cable apparently broke in the rear? square-drive
cable section. If the cable broke at the speedometer end, the gauge
may have seized although I never heard of that happening. Pull the
speedometer and fish out the broken end- it will need to be removed
anyway from whatever end its in for a new assembly to work.
Note- if the broken piece is in the rt angle drive adapter, be VERY
careful in removing the parts. The adapter unscrews via the big
left/right threaded nut attached to it, NOT the small 10mm bolt just
below it. That little bolt, carelessly removed, allows an extension
shaft to fall inside your ZF, forcing a total transaxle tear-down to
retrieve it.
Good luck- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Stroj <[2]npdrs at maui.net>
To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2018 5:27 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedo cable
Just had my speedo cable break, about in the middle of the square
end
that
enters into the gauge; I suppose the other part of the square wire
is
still
in the gauge.
I was wondering about possibilities of repairing this without the
need
of
taking replacing the whole cable and routing a new one.
1) seen a comment that this little part could possibly be welded
back
onto
the cable; seems it would be a tedious task?
2) Did someone use any of the generic core replacement, such as this
[4]https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atp-yc101/applications
In theory it would be easiest to do by just sliding old core out and
new in,
cutting to length and crimping new end, but not sure if actual
dimensions
would work with our gauge or ZF drive....
Thanks for suggestions; hope there is a simple way to fix this!
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