[DeTomaso] Fuel tank return for electric fuel pumps?

Dick Koch redcatman74 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 1 18:43:01 EDT 2018


The installation of a fuel pickup for my fuel injection system is
configured as Garth described, assembled using the pickup, shut off valve
from Home Depot, plumbed in feeding to an Essex filter and fuel pump.
The fuel pressure regulator return uses the original stock fuel pickup, a
pretty basic installation.

As pointed out by Garth, I use the valve as a secondary anti theft device.
As I exit the car, I reach down and "nonchalantly" close the valve.

While I initially worried about the exposure of the pickup assembly to
possible damage from debris or snagging on something, it hasn't been a
problem.

For those interested, the my initial tear down and rebuild diary is
available on:
http://panteraplace.com/page33.htm

Dick Koch - Atlanta

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 11:33 AM Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>    Hi Corey,
>    I'm not running EFI yet, but may someday in the future.  Anyway, I put
>    a Groco 90-degree fuel valve on the bottom of my gas tank in place of
>    the drain plug.  The 1/2" NPT thread on the Groco valve will thread
>    into the metric drain opening on the tank and seals with quality pipe
>    dope and a generic O-ring from O'reilly Auto Parts.
>    Benefits of the Groco valve are...
>    1. It doesn't restrict fuel flow like a Banjo fitting - it never ceases
>    to amaze me when I see high horsepower engines with 1/2" fuel lines
>    connected to a restrictive banjo fitting that likely has a 1/4" (or
>    less) internal diameter at best!
>    2. You can close the valve if you ever need to remove your
>    engine, change your fuel pump, or just replace the fuel line - no
>    futzing around with clamps or vice grips to try and stem the flow of
>    fuel from the tank if you ever need to perform one of these tasks.
>    AND, it serves as a great anti-theft device as well.  If someone
>    manages to hotwire the car, they won't get more than a few yards down
>    the street before it'll run out of gas.
>    Here are a couple of links to the valve - I have the stainless version.
>    I imagine brass would be just fine too.
>    [1]http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Fuel_Valves-Groco_FV590_90_Deg
>    ree_Brass_Fuel_Valve.html
>    [2]https://www.carid.com/groco/groco-1-2-npt-90-degree-fuel-valve-62788
>    5382.html
>    [3]https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid
>    =56744
>    Anyway, if/when I add EFI to my car I will use the original pickup
>    location on top of the tank to plumb the return line.
>    Cheers!
>    Garth
>
> References
>
>    1.
> http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Fuel_Valves-Groco_FV590_90_Degree_Brass_Fuel_Valve.html
>    2.
> https://www.carid.com/groco/groco-1-2-npt-90-degree-fuel-valve-627885382.html
>    3.
> https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=56744
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   The installation of a fuel pickup for my fuel injection system is
   configured as Garth described, assembled using the pickup, shut off
   valve from Home Depot, plumbed in feeding to an Essex filter and fuel
   pump.
   The fuel pressure regulator return uses the original stock fuel pickup,
   a pretty basic installation.A
   As pointed out by Garth, I use the valve as a secondary anti theft
   device. As I exit the car, I reach down and "nonchalantly" close the
   valve.A
   While I initially worried about the exposure of the pickup assembly to
   possible damage from debris or snagging on something, it hasn't been a
   problem.A
   For those interested, the my initial tear down and rebuild diary is
   available on:A
   [1]http://panteraplace.com/page33.htm
   Dick Koch - Atlanta

   On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 11:33 AM Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     A  A Hi Corey,
     A  A I'm not running EFI yet, but may someday in the future.A
     Anyway, I put
     A  A a Groco 90-degree fuel valve on the bottom of my gas tank in
     place of
     A  A the drain plug.A  The 1/2" NPT thread on the Groco valve will
     thread
     A  A into the metric drain opening on the tank and seals with
     quality pipe
     A  A dope and a generic O-ring from O'reilly Auto Parts.
     A  A Benefits of the Groco valve are...
     A  A 1. It doesn't restrict fuel flow like a Banjo fitting - it
     never ceases
     A  A to amaze me when I see high horsepower engines with 1/2" fuel
     lines
     A  A connected to a restrictive banjo fitting that likely has a 1/4"
     (or
     A  A less) internal diameter at best!
     A  A 2. You can close the valve if you ever need to remove your
     A  A engine, change your fuel pump, or just replace the fuel line -
     no
     A  A futzing around with clamps or vice grips to try and stem the
     flow of
     A  A fuel from the tank if you ever need to perform one of these
     tasks.
     A  A AND, it serves as a great anti-theft device as well.A  If
     someone
     A  A manages to hotwire the car, they won't get more than a few
     yards down
     A  A the street before it'll run out of gas.
     A  A Here are a couple of links to the valve - I have the stainless
     version.
     A  A I imagine brass would be just fine too.
     A
     A [1][3]http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Fuel_Valves-Groco_FV59
     0_90_Deg
     A  A ree_Brass_Fuel_Valve.html
     A
     A [2][4]https://www.carid.com/groco/groco-1-2-npt-90-degree-fuel-val
     ve-62788
     A  A 5382.html
     A
     A [3][5]https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_produc
     t.do?pid
     A  A =56744
     A  A Anyway, if/when I add EFI to my car I will use the original
     pickup
     A  A location on top of the tank to plumb the return line.
     A  A Cheers!
     A  A Garth
     References
     A  A 1.
     [6]http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Fuel_Valves-Groco_FV590_90_
     Degree_Brass_Fuel_Valve.html
     A  A 2.
     [7]https://www.carid.com/groco/groco-1-2-npt-90-degree-fuel-valve-62
     7885382.html
     A  A 3.
     [8]https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?
     pid=56744
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References

   1. http://panteraplace.com/page33.htm
   2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   3. http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Fuel_Valves-Groco_FV590_90_Deg
   4. https://www.carid.com/groco/groco-1-2-npt-90-degree-fuel-valve-62788
   5. https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid
   6. http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Fuel_Valves-Groco_FV590_90_Degree_Brass_Fuel_Valve.html
   7. https://www.carid.com/groco/groco-1-2-npt-90-degree-fuel-valve-627885382.html
   8. https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=56744
   9. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  10. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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