[DeTomaso] Deck lid warping
David & Michele
sullivanabode at bigpond.com
Mon Apr 2 15:47:15 EDT 2018
Thanks Jeff
Dave
> On 3 Apr 2018, at 2:29 am, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you reglue it, don't use an epoxy or anything that is rigid. It will cause creases where attached from the jostling the deck gets when driving.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:53 PM, David & Michele <sullivanabode at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Jack,
>>
>> Following your advise I did find some stress cracks near the hinges
>> (photos attached).
>>
>> Are there any examples for welding reinforcement to this area?
>>
>> The spider is certainly no longer attached, I will also try to re-glue,
>> any thoughts on what products to use?
>> Dave
>>
>> On 2 Apr 2018, at 6:14 am, [1]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Dave, its not unknown that the stock reinforcing deck lid 'spider'
>> inside comes loose from the decklid skin. The spider was never firmly
>> attached, only crimped around the edges, with a kind of 'body-putty'
>> between most of the rest, to hold it against the skin. I think the
>> spider is mostly for vibration suppression or drumming, but your
>> problem is so unusual. Maybe scrape the old stuff out and re-glue the
>> spider to the inside of the skin with something better?
>> If you push down on the bowed-up deck lid when its closed, what parts
>> move most to close up the gaps? You might actually have a stress crack
>> in the metal skin near an edge. Depending on how much it bugs you, you
>> could try to find a different deck lid- even a fiberglas replica. Good
>> luck- J DeRyke
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David & Michele <[2]sullivanabode at bigpond.com>
>> To: Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso <[4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2018 12:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Deck lid warping
>> Thanks Julian,
>> The hinges seem ok, with flexing appearing to be left and right of the
>> hinges towards the outside of the car.
>> Very difficult to understand where exactly or where how what to weld.
>> Perhaps the IPSCO solution is my only option.
>> Dave
>> On 2 Apr 2018, at 12:47 am, Julian Kift <[1][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> It is certainly possible, but would likely involve welding IMO. Where
>> is it flexing? I ask as one of my hinges let go from the decklid on a
>> Monterey trip, which made for an interesting few days with some
>> judicially placed towels and tie downs. Upon arriving home I was able
>> to weld it back together without too much damage to the paint.
>> Similarly you may need to strengthen around the hinges, but identifying
>> exactly where yours is flexing is first task.
>> To alleviate some of the pressure on that area you could try (and I
>> thoroughly recommend) the IPSCO decklid shock and mounting relocation
>> kit. As I have said previously the stock decklid shocks are mounted too
>> close to the pivot point, with all the force directly upward and just
>> alleviating some of that may be enough, but it would seem if your
>> decklid is flexing that much you have another underlying problem. The
>> good thing is yours returns back to normal, whereas most of the
>> stressed decklids I have seen do not and they are extremely
>> difficult to correct.
>> Julian
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>> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-[6]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
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>> of David & Michele <[3][7]sullivanabode at bigpond.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 10:51 PM
>> To: [4][8]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Deck lid warping
>> Dear list members,
>> My June '72 suffers "splaying" of the sides of the deck lid leaving
>> large gaps between the lid and the body, while the hinge/top of the
>> deck lid appears largely static.
>> This occurs even with gas struts (non original) that are not strong
>> enough to hold the lid in the open position.
>> With lift struts removed the lid settles to nice shut lines.
>> Is it possible to strengthen the deck to stop this?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dave
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Thanks Jeff
Dave
On 3 Apr 2018, at 2:29 am, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
If you reglue it, don't use an epoxy or anything that is rigid. It will
cause creases where attached from the jostling the deck gets when
driving.
Jeff
6559
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:53 PM, David & Michele
<[2]sullivanabode at bigpond.com> wrote:
Thanks Jack,
Following your advise I did find some stress cracks near the
hinges
(photos attached).
Are there any examples for welding reinforcement to this area?
The spider is certainly no longer attached, I will also try to
re-glue,
any thoughts on what products to use?
Dave
On 2 Apr 2018, at 6:14 am, [1][3]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
Dave, its not unknown that the stock reinforcing deck lid
'spider'
inside comes loose from the decklid skin. The spider was never
firmly
attached, only crimped around the edges, with a kind of
'body-putty'
between most of the rest, to hold it against the skin. I think
the
spider is mostly for vibration suppression or drumming, but your
problem is so unusual. Maybe scrape the old stuff out and re-glue
the
spider to the inside of the skin with something better?
If you push down on the bowed-up deck lid when its closed, what
parts
move most to close up the gaps? You might actually have a stress
crack
in the metal skin near an edge. Depending on how much it bugs
you, you
could try to find a different deck lid- even a fiberglas replica.
Good
luck- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: David & Michele <[2][4]sullivanabode at bigpond.com>
To: Julian Kift <[3][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: DeTomaso <[4][6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2018 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Deck lid warping
Thanks Julian,
The hinges seem ok, with flexing appearing to be left and right
of the
hinges towards the outside of the car.
Very difficult to understand where exactly or where how what to
weld.
Perhaps the IPSCO solution is my only option.
Dave
On 2 Apr 2018, at 12:47 am, Julian Kift
<[1][5][7]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
It is certainly possible, but would likely involve welding IMO.
Where
is it flexing? I ask as one of my hinges let go from the decklid
on a
Monterey trip, which made for an interesting few days with some
judicially placed towels and tie downs. Upon arriving home I was
able
to weld it back together without too much damage to the paint.
Similarly you may need to strengthen around the hinges, but
identifying
exactly where yours is flexing is first task.
To alleviate some of the pressure on that area you could try (and
I
thoroughly recommend) the IPSCO decklid shock and mounting
relocation
kit. As I have said previously the stock decklid shocks are
mounted too
close to the pivot point, with all the force directly upward and
just
alleviating some of that may be enough, but it would seem if your
decklid is flexing that much you have another underlying problem.
The
good thing is yours returns back to normal, whereas most of the
stressed decklids I have seen do not and they are extremely
difficult to correct.
Julian
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 10:51 PM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Deck lid warping
Dear list members,
My June '72 suffers "splaying" of the sides of the deck lid
leaving
large gaps between the lid and the body, while the hinge/top of
the
deck lid appears largely static.
This occurs even with gas struts (non original) that are not
strong
enough to hold the lid in the open position.
With lift struts removed the lid settles to nice shut lines.
Is it possible to strengthen the deck to stop this?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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