[DeTomaso] Gear Oil

L GRAY tipo874a at msn.com
Sat Sep 30 19:23:26 EDT 2017


Asa, you are correct. The modifiers are to ALLOW MORE SLIP in the diff thereby reducing clutch disc lock up, which will reduce chatter in the limited slip clutch pack. 
    The REDLINE 75-90 NS lube has NO MODIFIER from the manufacturer.  If chatter does occur you would put a small amount of the modifier to your liking.  

       Best regards,
             Leslie A. Gray

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>   This is contrary to what has been discussed on this forum and the Dino
>   Ferrari forum in the past.  Using oil appropriate for LS diffs or
>   adding the modifier will lead to early synchro wear.
> 
>   Posts there have described only adding the modifier if the clutches
>   grab on application of power in a sharp turn.  Adding the modifier
>   REDUCES friction at the clutches so they don't do that-- you add a bit
>   at a time until the problem stops.
> 
>   I'm not a diff expert, but my recollection is that the clutches in ZF
>   and Dino transaxles only engage when the unit it transmitting power and
>   thus might be different from US domestic cars.  So this might not apply
>   to a '67 Mustang
> 
>   Jim
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
>   To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; thomas <thomas at hax.se>; detomaso
>   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Sat, Sep 30, 2017 11:48 am
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gear Oil
>   Synthetic oils are TOO slippery for the limited slip clutches, so the
>   friction modifiers make it less slippery so the clutches will work
>   properly. RedLine also sell the additive separately if the oil is still
>   too slippery for worn clutches in the limited slip diff.
>   Larry Stock
>   On 9/29/17, 10:51 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Pantdino via DeTomaso"
>   <detomaso-[1]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>   [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> If you added the friction modifiers you made the Redline more
>   slippery.
>> Which makes the synchros not work as well
>> 
>> Don't add those modifiers to GL-4 oil
>> 
>> Jim
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas TAP:rnblom <[3]thomas at hax.se>
>> To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Sep 28, 2017 11:53 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gear Oil
>> I currently use Castrol Syntrans 75W-90 GL-4+.
>> It is specified for VW transaxles and I needed it when replacing the
>> transmission in one of my son's golf, and when I saw it was a GL-4+
>> oil, I bought a 20 liter container, thinking it would be great also
>   for
>> the ZF.
>> I've used Shell Getriebeoel 75W-90 fully synthetic, and also Mobil 1
>> SHC synthetic, and before switching to this Castrol oil I used
>   Redline,
>> with a bottle of the recommended friction modifiers.
>> Can't say I notice much difference between the oils. I think shifting
>> was hardest with the Redline oil.
>> /Thomas
>> Den 2017-09-29 kl. 08:07, skrev Don Thomas:
>> Paul...
>> Here is a good explanation and article on the difference between the
>> oils, the makeup and some advantages and disadvantages.:
>> [1][1][1][5]http://www.panteraparts.com/techTips.php
>> GL-4 vs.A GL-5 have always caused a heated debate...A Hopefully that
>> article will help in your quest.
>> and Mike.... as it quotes in the article...
>> "...API GL-4 are the best lubricants for the ZF. "
>> :)
>> Just wanted to poke the bear.
>> Have fun.
>> Cheers !
>> Best regards,
>> -dt
>> Don Thomas
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Mike Drew
>   [2]<[2][2][6]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>> Don,
>> If you want to run Amsoil in your ZF, this is probably what you
>   should
>> use:
>> [3][3][3][7]https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/gear-lube/
>> synthetic-80w-90-gear-lube/
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 21:45, Don Thomas
>   [4]<[4][4][8]dtpantera at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> A A Use a GL-4 rated transaxle oil.
>> A A I use this:
>> A A
>   [1][5][5][5][9]https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/transmission-
>> fluid/manual/man
>> A A ual-transmission-and-transaxle-gear-lube-75w-90/?code=MTGQT-EA
>> A A Enjoy.
>> A A -dt
>> A A On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Paul Timko
>> [6]<[2][6][6][10]thedrol at pobox.com>
>> A A wrote:
>> A A A A Can someone explain the difference between Gear Oil for
>   limited
>> slip
>> A A A A differentials and standard gear oil?
>> A A A A I'm not looking for a ZF oil recommendation, just some
>   general
>> A A A A knowledge that I can apply to all my cars.
>> A A A A Paul
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