[DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

Charles Engles cengles at cox.net
Sun Sep 24 17:47:48 EDT 2017


Dear David,

 

 

                    Mike Drew says that Pat Mical sells his version of The Hook.

 

                    If you want to fabricate your own hook, then I can send you pictures for a do-it-yourself project.

 

                    If you prefer a “turn key” unit, then I can check with the machine shop that fabricated mine and see what they would charge to fab another one.

 

                    I will go ahead and send you separately some pictures for your consideration.

 

 

                                       Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

 

 

 

From: goodwinpantera at comcast.net [mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:39 PM
To: Charles Engles
Cc: Lynn Wall; B Hower; detomaso
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

 

This looks like it would clear a Weber 8 stack with the velocity stacks removed. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on one. It would make a engine install with the webers a whole lot easier.

 

Cheers, David Goodwin

 

  _____  

From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "Lynn Wall" <lwall67 at gmail.com>, "B Hower" <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "New Pantera List" <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:49:05 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

 

Dear Lynn,

 

 

 

 

 

                      Forgive me for answering for Bud.   It goes over the rear part of the manifold and under the roof.

 

 

 

 

 

                                            Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Lynn Wall [mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:08 AM
To: B Hower
Cc: Larry-Ohio Time Corp; Charles Engles; New Pantera List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

 

 

 

Bud,  does this arch over or under the roof?

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Sent from my mobile device

 


On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:09 AM, B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Larry,

 

 

 

FWIW ......... This one has an arch. 

 

 

 

See attached photo:

 

 

 

Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

 

 

 


  _____  

 


From: Larry-Ohio Time Corp <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
To: 'B Hower' <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; 'Charles Engles' <cengles at cox.net>; 'Lynn Wall' <lwall67 at gmail.com> 
Cc: 'New Pantera List' <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

 

 

 

<< A few years ago I made a tool similar to this ( thanks to Dr. for the
information ).>> 

 

Bud, are you saying a doctors advice enhanced your tool?

 

<< You use it once and will not ever be with out it>>

 

You never leave home without it?

 


Larry (no need) - Cleveland

 

.

 


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of B Hower via DeTomaso
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:01 PM
To: Charles Engles; 'Lynn Wall'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

 

A few years ago I made a tool similar to this ( thanks to Dr. for the
information ). You use it once and will not ever be with out it.
 Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )

 

      From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
To: 'Lynn Wall' <lwall67 at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools
  
Dear Lynn,

 


                Please see the attachments.  I was shown this gizmo by a
fellow in the Arizona Pantera club *years* ago and I cannot recall his name.
It is not my invention.  I used the chains and leveler method twice and
found it awkward.  After I saw his solution, I copied it with the help of
my local machine shop.  It works very well.    It is obviously very simple.
Two bolts out; bolt it on and torque down the bolts then you're in business.

 


                There can be interference with high rise intake manifolds
and carbs.  There may be interference with your EFI set-up.  

 

                I have used it often over twelve years and it is now a one
man job, but it is always wise to have a helper , if available.

 


                                      Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

 

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn Wall
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:25 AM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

 

I thought I would ask the collective this question.

 

 

 

I am preparing to do the dry assembly of my car (post body work, pre paint).
I am running an IR fuel injection system.  I realize that we install the
motor and ZF coupled together.  I remember seeing and reading suggestions
regarding installing a motor that involved different attachment points to
make things easier.  Obviously using a bolt plat to the carb mount is not
going to work for me.  I would also like to install the motor, if possible,
with the throttle bodies mounted.  This may preclude taking a strap to the
front of the motor due to throttle body clearance issues although I'm not
sure

 

 

 

I remember seeing a bracket that mounted to the top bellhousing/block bolts
and then curved over the motor.  Is this something I should fabricate?  I
can certainly make one with little effort..  I am planning on putting the
motor in and taking it out several times during the dry assembly process.

 

 

 

Suggestions would be appreciated as I'm pretty sure my marriage cannot
survive this process if I have to involve my wife.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

Lynn

 

 

 

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   Dear David,



                       Mike Drew says that Pat Mical sells his version of
   The Hook.


                       If you want to fabricate your own hook, then I can
   send you pictures for a do-it-yourself project.


                       If you prefer a "turn key" unit, then I can check
   with the machine shop that fabricated mine and see what they would
   charge to fab another one.


                       I will go ahead and send you separately some
   pictures for your consideration.



                                          Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles




   From: goodwinpantera at comcast.net [mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net]
   Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:39 PM
   To: Charles Engles
   Cc: Lynn Wall; B Hower; detomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools


   This looks like it would clear a Weber 8 stack with the velocity stacks
   removed. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on one. It would
   make a engine install with the webers a whole lot easier.


   Cheers, David Goodwin

   _______________________________________________________________________

   From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
   To: "Lynn Wall" <lwall67 at gmail.com>, "B Hower" <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
   Cc: "New Pantera List" <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:49:05 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools


   Dear Lynn,






                         Forgive me for answering for Bud.   It goes over
   the rear part of the manifold and under the roof.






                                               Warmest regards,  Chuck
   Engles








   From: Lynn Wall [mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:08 AM
   To: B Hower
   Cc: Larry-Ohio Time Corp; Charles Engles; New Pantera List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools




   Bud,  does this arch over or under the roof?




   Thanks


   Sent from my mobile device


   On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:09 AM, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:


   Larry,




   FWIW ......... This one has an arch.




   See attached photo:




   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )




     _____


   From: Larry-Ohio Time Corp <[2]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   To: 'B Hower' <[3]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; 'Charles Engles'
   <[4]cengles at cox.net>; 'Lynn Wall' <[5]lwall67 at gmail.com>
   Cc: 'New Pantera List' <[6]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:01 AM
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools




   << A few years ago I made a tool similar to this ( thanks to Dr. for
   the
   information ).>>


   Bud, are you saying a doctors advice enhanced your tool?


   << You use it once and will not ever be with out it>>


   You never leave home without it?


   Larry (no need) - Cleveland


   .


   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of B Hower via DeTomaso
   Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:01 PM
   To: Charles Engles; 'Lynn Wall'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools


   A few years ago I made a tool similar to this ( thanks to Dr. for the
   information ). You use it once and will not ever be with out it.
    Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )


         From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   To: 'Lynn Wall' <lwall67 at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:01 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools

   Dear Lynn,


                   Please see the attachments.  I was shown this gizmo by
   a
   fellow in the Arizona Pantera club *years* ago and I cannot recall his
   name.
   It is not my invention.  I used the chains and leveler method twice and
   found it awkward.  After I saw his solution, I copied it with the help
   of
   my local machine shop.  It works very well.    It is obviously very
   simple.
   Two bolts out; bolt it on and torque down the bolts then you're in
   business.


                   There can be interference with high rise intake
   manifolds
   and carbs.  There may be interference with your EFI set-up.


                   I have used it often over twelve years and it is now a
   one
   man job, but it is always wise to have a helper , if available.


                                         Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles


   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Lynn Wall
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:25 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Engine install suggestions - tools


   I thought I would ask the collective this question.




   I am preparing to do the dry assembly of my car (post body work, pre
   paint).
   I am running an IR fuel injection system.  I realize that we install
   the
   motor and ZF coupled together.  I remember seeing and reading
   suggestions
   regarding installing a motor that involved different attachment points
   to
   make things easier.  Obviously using a bolt plat to the carb mount is
   not
   going to work for me.  I would also like to install the motor, if
   possible,
   with the throttle bodies mounted.  This may preclude taking a strap to
   the
   front of the motor due to throttle body clearance issues although I'm
   not
   sure




   I remember seeing a bracket that mounted to the top bellhousing/block
   bolts
   and then curved over the motor.  Is this something I should fabricate?
    I
   can certainly make one with little effort..  I am planning on putting
   the
   motor in and taking it out several times during the dry assembly
   process.




   Suggestions would be appreciated as I'm pretty sure my marriage cannot
   survive this process if I have to involve my wife.




   Thanks in advance.




   Lynn




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