[DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Thu Sep 7 12:48:37 EDT 2017


...  and Scott's very next email...  "Neeeeeeverrrrmind"

If this is a pronounced problem, I'd be hopeful for a fix.  

Asa

⁣Asa  Jay  Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
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On Sep 7, 2017, 09:29, at 09:29, Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Can I get more information on the propensity of Lamborghini Gallardo's
>"bursting into flames" with little provocation?
>
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:41 AM
>To: Julian Kift
>Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices
>
>Julian,
>
>I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was just
>a clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right
>though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable worth,
>especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras
>that are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not
>unlike Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate propensity
>to burst into flame with very little provocation....)
>
>Mike
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>> 
>> Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's
>where a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is
>what the market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot of
>space, the Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts to
>marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.
>> 
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:22 AM
>> To: De Tomaso Forum
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices
>>  
>> Guys,
>> 
>> A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that
>were coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that I
>believed they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility
>after having been abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and marketed
>by a hopeful punter who was seeking something on the order of 100k
>Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.
>> 
>> After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up for
>auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.  It
>was estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera
>was estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.
>> 
>> Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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   ...A  and Scott's very next email...A  "Neeeeeeverrrrmind"

   If this is a pronounced problem, I'd be hopeful for a fix.A

   Asa

   AsaA  JayA  Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired

   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks

   On Sep 7, 2017, at 09:29, Scott Bell <[1]scott at saccrestorations.net>
   wrote:

Mike,
Can I get more information on the propensity of Lamborghini Gallardo's "bursting
 into flames" with little provocation?
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mi
ke Drew via DeTomaso
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:41 AM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices
Julian,
I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was just a clay o
r plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right though--if it wa
s a genuine body it would have had considerable worth, especially if it could be
 mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras that are out there. (Guaras had d
efective fuel line plumbing, not unlike Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an
 unfortunate propensity to burst into flame with very little provocation....)
Mike
Sent from my iPad

     On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
     Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's
     where a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is
     what the market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot
     of space, the Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.
     At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts
     to marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for
     sale.
     Julian
     From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
     of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:22 AM
     To: De Tomaso Forum
     Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices
     Guys,
     A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that
     were coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that
     I believed they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility
     after having been abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and
     marketed by a hopeful punter who was seeking something on the order
     of 100k Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.
     After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up
     for auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or
     wheels. It was estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The
     Nuevo Pantera was estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.
     Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad
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