[DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions
B Hower
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Tue Sep 5 19:48:38 EDT 2017
How can you tell if a switch is a Bosch ?........... I have a box full of failed switches...... Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: petersonmr06 at yahoo.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions
Mark,
The ammeter tells all. If you have an intermittent switch failure, it won't deflect when the switch fails to make contact, and will deflect when it does.
If the ammeter deflects in time with your switch jiggling, it's a mechanical (gear) issue. If the ammeter only moves sometimes when actuating the switch, it's a switch issue.
Bosch switches never fail, stock switches all fail eventually. New 'stock' switches have been known to fail right out of the box, and those that don't have been known to fail when only a year or two old.
Mike
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> On Sep 5, 2017, at 15:33, Mark Peterson <petersonmr06 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> et al
>
> Same church different pew. The passenger window will gown but fails to go up. After playing with the switch I can eventually get it back. Switch, wiring or motor? Thanks Mark 1789
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> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 12:25:06
> To: Larry Stock<larrys at panteraparts.com>
> Reply-To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions
>
> Cliff,
>
> Larry is right, sort of, but he wants you to work way too hard to troubleshoot the problem.
>
> Any time you actuate the windows with the key on but engine not running, the ammeter will deflect when you actuate the switch.
>
> So, if you hit the switch and the window doesn't move and the ammeter doesn't deflect, you have a switch or wiring problem. If you have the stock switches, they are junk and should be replaced with similar-looking quality Bosch switches.
>
> If the ammeter does deflect, you don't have an electrical problem, the issue is mechanical. If you have the stock plastic gear, likely it's broken.
>
> Mike
>
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>
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 09:06, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>>
>> It might just be the switch. You can reverse the switches to see if the
>> issues moves with the switch or not. If it doesn¹t then a $44 Brass
>> replacement window regulator gear might be all you need. You can get those
>> here with me.
>> Larry Stock @ Pantera Parts Connection
>>
>> On 9/5/17, 5:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Panteratime via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
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>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Hope all had a great labor day!! I finally had time to take that red
>>> car I have in my garage out for a run this summer (been motorcycle
>>> season) I noticed the passenger side window need a "tug" to start it
>>> to close. Glad I only partial retracted it!! I remember years ago
>>> someone mentioning ) Ford Windstar motor to replace original? Can
>>> anyone provide process and/or suggestion on replacement part for window
>>> motor. Thank you!!
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How can you tell if a switch is a Bosch ?........... I have a box full
of failed switches......
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
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From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: petersonmr06 at yahoo.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions
Mark,
The ammeter tells all. If you have an intermittent switch failure, it
won't deflect when the switch fails to make contact, and will deflect
when it does.
If the ammeter deflects in time with your switch jiggling, it's a
mechanical (gear) issue. If the ammeter only moves sometimes when
actuating the switch, it's a switch issue.
Bosch switches never fail, stock switches all fail eventually. New
'stock' switches have been known to fail right out of the box, and
those that don't have been known to fail when only a year or two old.
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 5, 2017, at 15:33, Mark Peterson <[1]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> et al
>
> Same church different pew. The passenger window will gown but fails
to go up. After playing with the switch I can eventually get it back.
Switch, wiring or motor? Thanks Mark 1789
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sender: "DeTomaso" <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 12:25:06
> To: Larry Stock<[4]larrys at panteraparts.com>
> Reply-To: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions
>
> Cliff,
>
> Larry is right, sort of, but he wants you to work way too hard to
troubleshoot the problem.
>
> Any time you actuate the windows with the key on but engine not
running, the ammeter will deflect when you actuate the switch.
>
> So, if you hit the switch and the window doesn't move and the ammeter
doesn't deflect, you have a switch or wiring problem. If you have the
stock switches, they are junk and should be replaced with
similar-looking quality Bosch switches.
>
> If the ammeter does deflect, you don't have an electrical problem,
the issue is mechanical. If you have the stock plastic gear, likely
it's broken.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 09:06, Larry Stock <[7]larrys at panteraparts.com>
wrote:
>>
>> It might just be the switch. You can reverse the switches to see if
the
>> issues moves with the switch or not. If it doesnA^1t then a $44
Brass
>> replacement window regulator gear might be all you need. You can get
those
>> here with me.
>> Larry Stock @ Pantera Parts Connection
>>
>> On 9/5/17, 5:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Panteratime via DeTomaso"
>> <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>> [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Hope all had a great labor day!! I finally had time to take that
red
>>> car I have in my garage out for a run this summer (been motorcycle
>>> season) I noticed the passenger side window need a "tug" to start
it
>>> to close. Glad I only partial retracted it!! I remember years
ago
>>> someone mentioning ) Ford Windstar motor to replace original?
Can
>>> anyone provide process and/or suggestion on replacement part for
window
>>> motor. Thank you!!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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