[DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions

Tue Sep 5 14:27:17 EDT 2017

Charles,

Actually, mine did that and the cause was a broken gear.  Eventually, it
failed altogether.  As you know, the center of the plastic gear is a metal
slotted piece that attaches to the motor’s shaft.  With mine, the plastic
started cracking under pressure from the metal center and rotated and jammed
into the plastic.  The result was that my window would start up until it met
resistance from the whiskers or alignment and the metal kept turning but the
gear didn’t. The plastic finally cracked so much that it locked up after the
pieces were pushed against the housing.

Richard
Austin, TX

From:  DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
Date:  Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 13:17
To:  MikeDrew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Detomaso Email List
<detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions

Mike and Larry - re-read the description of the problem. The window needed a
little help to start lifting, and then closed. This implies that the switch
and gear are fine, but the motor is tired, or the alignment is off and it
has to work too hard, or...

Anyway, doesn't sound like swapping the switch or gear will solve his
problem - sounds like either a more powerful motor or playing with the
alignment of the tracks (which is a pain) could help

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Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
Sent: martes, 5 de septiembre de 2017 19:25
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions

Cliff,

Larry is right, sort of, but he wants you to work way too hard to
troubleshoot the problem.

Any time you actuate the windows with the key on but engine not running, the
ammeter will deflect when you actuate the switch.

So, if you hit the switch and the window doesn't move and the ammeter
doesn't deflect, you have a switch or wiring problem. If you have the stock
switches, they are junk and should be replaced with similar-looking quality
Bosch switches. 

If the ammeter does deflect, you don't have an electrical problem, the issue
is mechanical. If you have the stock plastic gear, likely it's broken.

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

>  On Sep 5, 2017, at 09:06, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>  
>  It might just be the switch. You can reverse the switches to see if the
>  issues moves with the switch or not. If it doesn¹t then a $44 Brass
>  replacement window regulator gear might be all you need. You can get those
>  here with me.
>  Larry Stock @ Pantera Parts Connection
>  
>  On 9/5/17, 5:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Panteratime via DeTomaso"
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>  detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>  
>>   Folks,
>>  
>>   Hope all had a great labor day!!    I finally had time to take that red
>>   car I have in my garage out for a run this summer  (been motorcycle
>>   season)   I noticed the passenger side window need a "tug" to start it
>>   to close.    Glad I only partial retracted it!!   I remember years ago
>>   someone mentioning ) Ford Windstar motor to replace original?    Can
>>   anyone provide process and/or suggestion on replacement part for window
>>   motor.   Thank you!!
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   Charles,
   Actually, mine did that and the cause was a broken gear.  Eventually,
   it failed altogether.  As you know, the center of the plastic gear is a
   metal slotted piece that attaches to the motor's shaft.  With mine, the
   plastic started cracking under pressure from the metal center and
   rotated and jammed into the plastic.  The result was that my window
   would start up until it met resistance from the whiskers or alignment
   and the metal kept turning but the gear didn't. The plastic finally
   cracked so much that it locked up after the pieces were pushed against
   the housing.
   Richard
   Austin, TX

   From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 13:17
   To: MikeDrew <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Detomaso Email List
   <[4]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions

   Mike and Larry - re-read the description of the problem. The window
   needed a little help to start lifting, and then closed. This implies
   that the switch and gear are fine, but the motor is tired, or the
   alignment is off and it has to work too hard, or...
   Anyway, doesn't sound like swapping the switch or gear will solve his
   problem - sounds like either a more powerful motor or playing with the
   alignment of the tracks (which is a pain) could help
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   Sent: martes, 5 de septiembre de 2017 19:25
   To: Larry Stock <[6]larrys at panteraparts.com>
   Cc: [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] window motor replacement suggestions
   Cliff,
   Larry is right, sort of, but he wants you to work way too hard to
   troubleshoot the problem.
   Any time you actuate the windows with the key on but engine not
   running, the ammeter will deflect when you actuate the switch.
   So, if you hit the switch and the window doesn't move and the ammeter
   doesn't deflect, you have a switch or wiring problem. If you have the
   stock switches, they are junk and should be replaced with
   similar-looking quality Bosch switches.
   If the ammeter does deflect, you don't have an electrical problem, the
   issue is mechanical. If you have the stock plastic gear, likely it's
   broken.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone

   On Sep 5, 2017, at 09:06, Larry Stock <[8]larrys at panteraparts.com>
   wrote:

   It might just be the switch. You can reverse the switches to see if the

   issues moves with the switch or not. If it doesn(c)oet then a $44 Brass

   replacement window regulator gear might be all you need. You can get
   those

   here with me.

   Larry Stock @ Pantera Parts Connection

   On 9/5/17, 5:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Panteratime via DeTomaso"

   <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

   [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     Folks,

     Hope all had a great labor day!!    I finally had time to take that
   red

     car I have in my garage out for a run this summer  (been motorcycle

     season)   I noticed the passenger side window need a "tug" to start
   it

     to close.    Glad I only partial retracted it!!   I remember years
   ago

     someone mentioning ) Ford Windstar motor to replace original?    Can

     anyone provide process and/or suggestion on replacement part for
   window

     motor.   Thank you!!

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