[DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?

marshall smith marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
Tue Sep 5 01:51:04 EDT 2017


| That is exactly how a car would act that had a bad ballast resistor... If you still have one on your car, check it.


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|  From:"Pantdino via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Date:Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:42 PM
Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?

   Thanks guys!

  Fortunately the car is dead over my low-rise lift, so that should help
  getting my old body into the correct contortions to get under the dash.
  :)
  Jim
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
  To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  Cc: detomaso <detomaso at detomasolist.com>; Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
  Sent: Mon, Sep 4, 2017 4:19 pm
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?
  Jim,
  While I would agree that it's probably the switch, I would first check
  the junction block that connects the wires from the ignition switch to
  the rest of the harness. It's an incredibly hokey connector that can
  overheat and melt, especially if high-current fans and headlights are
  fitted. Dot be surprised if your switch is fine but this connector is
  sizzled.
  To access it you have to drop the steering column. Follow Bill Taylor's
  advice--remove the two short bolts closest to the front of the car and
  replace them with much longer bolts, just threaded in a few turns. Then
  remove the rear bolts and allow the column to hang from the long bolts.
  This affords good access without stressing the wiring and connectors
  and let's you get the plastic housing off from around the ignition
  switch.
  If necessary it's very easy to replace the electrical portion of the
  ignition switch. The plastic housings around the switch are held in
  with the two bolts you removed, one Phillips screw and one machine
  screw. Be sure to pay attention which one goes where and remember that
  it's possible to short things out if you use a too-long screw....
  Mike
  Sent from my iPhone
  > On Sep 4, 2017, at 17:35, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  wrote:
  >
  > I think you hit it, ignition switch, to test locate the terminal
  block
  > about 6 " from the ignitions switch under the dash / column and
  jumper
  > the battery live to the run wire. The electrical portion is held on
  to
  > the back of the ignition switch with two screws. You can remove it,
  > carefully bend the housing tabs and pry it apart, being equally
  careful
  > not to lose the spring and ball bearing. The copper ring gets gummed
  up
  > over time, I cleaned mine up re-greased and no further issues.
  >
  > Alternatively for the electrically challenged Larry Finch always had
  a
  > good stock of the electrical portions.
  >
  > Julian
  > __________________________________________________________________
  >
  > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-[2]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
  behalf of
  > Pantdino via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:29 PM
  > To: [4]detomaso at detomasolist.com
  > Subject: [DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?
  >
  > My car had no symptoms of this previously, but today when I went to
  > start it it would only run as long as the key was in the "engage
  > starter motor" position. As soon as I released the key back to the
  Run
  > position it would stop
  > After several episodes of that, it did start and I backed it out of
  the
  > garage, but then it died and refused to start again.
  > There is no power to the gauges or warning lights in the Run
  position.
  > I had similar symptoms with my Alfa once, and it was a bad ignition
  > switch.
  > Anything else it could be? I am not very good with wiring diagrams,
  so
  > I thought I'd turn to everyone's extensive knowledge before
  struggling
  > with it.
  > Thanks,
  > Jim
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    That is exactly how a car would act that had a bad ballast resistor...
   If you still have one on your car, check it.

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   From:"Pantdino via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Date:Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:42 PM
   Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?
     Thanks guys!
     Fortunately the car is dead over my low-rise lift, so that should
   help
     getting my old body into the correct contortions to get under the
   dash.
     :)
     Jim
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     To: Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Cc: detomaso <[4]detomaso at detomasolist.com>; Pantdino
   <[5]pantdino at aol.com>
     Sent: Mon, Sep 4, 2017 4:19 pm
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?
     Jim,
     While I would agree that it's probably the switch, I would first
   check
     the junction block that connects the wires from the ignition switch
   to
     the rest of the harness. It's an incredibly hokey connector that can
     overheat and melt, especially if high-current fans and headlights are
     fitted. Dot be surprised if your switch is fine but this connector is
     sizzled.
     To access it you have to drop the steering column. Follow Bill
   Taylor's
     advice--remove the two short bolts closest to the front of the car
   and
     replace them with much longer bolts, just threaded in a few turns.
   Then
     remove the rear bolts and allow the column to hang from the long
   bolts.
     This affords good access without stressing the wiring and connectors
     and let's you get the plastic housing off from around the ignition
     switch.
     If necessary it's very easy to replace the electrical portion of the
     ignition switch. The plastic housings around the switch are held in
     with the two bolts you removed, one Phillips screw and one machine
     screw. Be sure to pay attention which one goes where and remember
   that
     it's possible to short things out if you use a too-long screw....
     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     > On Sep 4, 2017, at 17:35, Julian Kift
   <[1][6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
     >
     > I think you hit it, ignition switch, to test locate the terminal
     block
     > about 6 " from the ignitions switch under the dash / column and
     jumper
     > the battery live to the run wire. The electrical portion is held on
     to
     > the back of the ignition switch with two screws. You can remove it,
     > carefully bend the housing tabs and pry it apart, being equally
     careful
     > not to lose the spring and ball bearing. The copper ring gets
   gummed
     up
     > over time, I cleaned mine up re-greased and no further issues.
     >
     > Alternatively for the electrically challenged Larry Finch always
   had
     a
     > good stock of the electrical portions.
     >
     > Julian
     > __________________________________________________________________
     >
     > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-[2][7]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of
     > Pantdino via DeTomaso <[3][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:29 PM
     > To: [4][9]detomaso at detomasolist.com
     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Run position of ignition switch kaputt?
     >
     > My car had no symptoms of this previously, but today when I went to
     > start it it would only run as long as the key was in the "engage
     > starter motor" position. As soon as I released the key back to the
     Run
     > position it would stop
     > After several episodes of that, it did start and I backed it out of
     the
     > garage, but then it died and refused to start again.
     > There is no power to the gauges or warning lights in the Run
     position.
     > I had similar symptoms with my Alfa once, and it was a bad ignition
     > switch.
     > Anything else it could be? I am not very good with wiring diagrams,
     so
     > I thought I'd turn to everyone's extensive knowledge before
     struggling
     > with it.
     > Thanks,
     > Jim
     > _______________________________________________
     >
     >
     > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
     > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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References

   1. https://att.overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
   2. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
   5. mailto:pantdino at aol.com
   6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   7. mailto:bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   8. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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  10. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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  12. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
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  14. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  15. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
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