[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 160, Issue 21
Owen Cooke
owen at tadhgcooke.com
Fri Oct 20 12:12:21 EDT 2017
The HT leads should not leak like that and it should not need further
insulation even if contacting metal
this could be caused by a break up the lead or at the plug- if it cant
ground at the plug it will seek next easiest route to ground
so i would replace the leads and plugs involved and see what happens then
if you drive it light that it will wash the cylinders involved dry of
oil and cause excessive wear fairly quickly
owen
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> 1. Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (Mike Drew)
> 2. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
> 3. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (Mike Drew)
> 4. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
> (=?UTF-8?Q?Thomas_T=c3=b6rnblom?=)
> 5. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (Dave Londry)
> 6. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (Himes, Terry (397C))
> 7. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (L GRAY)
> 8. CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Steve Liebenow)
> 9. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (B Hower)
> 10. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Sean Korb)
> 11. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Charles McCall)
> 12. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Ken Green)
> 13. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
> (=?UTF-8?Q?Thomas_T=c3=b6rnblom?=)
> 14. Re: How much has EFI advanced over the past few years?
> (jderyke at aol.com)
> 15. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (Larry-Ohio Time Corp)
> 16. Re: Pantera ignition miss diagnosis (B Hower)
> 17. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Julian Kift)
> 18. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (L GRAY)
> 19. Blue RAL color code - Pantera gr 4 (Patrick HALS)
> 20. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Dennis Valdez)
> 21. Re: CD Players- What works in a Pantera? (Jeff Detrich)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:07:45 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: De Tomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> Guys,
>
> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage, but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the window when a flash caught my eye....
>
> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>
> https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:16:09 -0400
> From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> I was waiting to see flashing on the wire that was pinched!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 13:08 PM
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
>
> Guys,
>
> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the
> electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage,
> but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had
> to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the
> window when a flash caught my eye....
>
> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>
> https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:23:07 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> Guys,
>
> These are $150 Crane plug wires (that somebody gave me, new in the box, after he sold his Pantera and then found them left over afterwards).
>
> I had previously had a spark leak between the coil wire and a rubber heater hose (?) which was also surprising. The spark leaps right through the rubber connector. Electrical tape doesn't phase it either--it goes right through.
>
> My fix-it plan is to put a thick layer of rubber insulation material on the bottom of the air cleaner. It's possible energy is being conducted between the other wire that is hard up against the base of the air cleaner, but because there is no air gap it might not be visible....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:16, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was waiting to see flashing on the wire that was pinched!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 13:08 PM
>> To: De Tomaso Forum
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the
>> electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage,
>> but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had
>> to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the
>> window when a flash caught my eye....
>>
>> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Thomas_T=c3=b6rnblom?=" <tipo874 at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> Good catch!
>
> She needs new plug wires. Too high resistance in the wire will bring the
> voltage up high at the distributor.
>
> I had a similar problem when I was using the wide cap 7.5L EFI
> distributor and one of the wire boots were making contact with the
> engine screen.
>
> Thomas (now running distributorless :)
>
> Den 2017-10-19 kl. 19:07, skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso:
>> Guys,
>>
>> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage, but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the window when a flash caught my eye....
>>
>> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:16:26 -0700
> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> And you already know the first step - a wire set. Something decent like
> Taylor.
> Dave
>
> On 19/10/2017 10:07 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage, but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the window when a flash caught my eye....
>>
>> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:41:10 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
> <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> After that last spark leak (amazing) and now THIS! You will now be know forever as ?Sparky? ;-))
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
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> ??
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>
> On 10/19/17, 10:23 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> These are $150 Crane plug wires (that somebody gave me, new in the box, after he sold his Pantera and then found them left over afterwards).
>
> I had previously had a spark leak between the coil wire and a rubber heater hose (?) which was also surprising. The spark leaps right through the rubber connector. Electrical tape doesn't phase it either--it goes right through.
>
> My fix-it plan is to put a thick layer of rubber insulation material on the bottom of the air cleaner. It's possible energy is being conducted between the other wire that is hard up against the base of the air cleaner, but because there is no air gap it might not be visible....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:16, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was waiting to see flashing on the wire that was pinched!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> > Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 13:08 PM
> > To: De Tomaso Forum
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the
> > electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage,
> > but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had
> > to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the
> > window when a flash caught my eye....
> >
> > This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
> >
> > https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:57:40 +0000
> From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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> Great find Mike. I?ve come across this so many times in the past. Spark plug wires do not last forever!
> I even had a brand new set exhibit this scenario. I?m sure you?ve inspired a herd of owners with odd idling or misfires to look into their wires ( in the dark so you can actually see it )!
>
> Leslie A. Gray
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage, but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the window when a flash caught my eye....
>
> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>
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> Great find Mike. I've come across this so many times in the past. Spark
> plug wires do not last forever!
>
> I even had a brand new set exhibit this scenario. I'm sure you've
> inspired a herd of owners with odd idling or misfires to look into
> their wires ( in the dark so you can actually see it )!
> Leslie A. Gray
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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> Guys,
> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have
> the electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in
> the garage, but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle.
> Last night I had to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was
> looking back through the window when a flash caught my eye....
> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it
> too....
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 18:08:09 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Steve Liebenow <steven.liebenow at att.net>
> To: DeTomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] CD Players- What works in a Pantera?
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> Greetings!?? Need some help with radio selection......
>
> Our 74 recently came to us without a radio of any sort.? Just a big ugly football shaped hole....for a two post radio.? In my collection of parts, I have "spare" Pioneer single CD capable models (removable face plate) that proclaim in the instructions not to mount them above about a 45 degree angle!
> I have not yet tested this...need to find old Celine Dion CD first.....
> I know that there are Bluetooth devices, plug-in storage devices, wireless radio, etc that "can make my life easier"? (tell that to IOS 11 updaters!!!).......but I'm not all that yet.? I pay enuf for phones, internet, TV....that I really don't need or desire another multiple hundreds of dollars investment just to get tunes.? I can buy new AC hoses.....with that money!!!!?? Then I can be "cool" and listen to "my music"....
> SO, I throw out to you two questions....."what CD player works in your Pantera while mounted sideways and at a 30-45 degree angle upwards?????? (I will be looking to modify my dash opening to accept a standard DIN unit.)?? I'm not really interested in a multiple CD player remotely mounted either....... BTDT.
>
> AND, if you have a Pioneer, does it work for CD's and if so, what model?
>
> So far I have heard of one Kenwood model that the owner reports works just fine.
> What say you??
> Thanks in advance!
> Steve
> -------------- next part --------------
> Greetings! Need some help with radio selection......
> Our 74 recently came to us without a radio of any sort. Just a big
> ugly football shaped hole....for a two post radio. In my collection of
> parts, I have "spare" Pioneer single CD capable models (removable face
> plate) that proclaim in the instructions not to mount them above about
> a 45 degree angle!
> I have not yet tested this...need to find old Celine Dion CD first.....
> I know that there are Bluetooth devices, plug-in storage devices,
> wireless radio, etc that "can make my life easier" (tell that to IOS
> 11 updaters!!!).......but I'm not all that yet. I pay enuf for phones,
> internet, TV....that I really don't need or desire another multiple
> hundreds of dollars investment just to get tunes. I can buy new AC
> hoses.....with that money!!!! Then I can be "cool" and listen to "my
> music"....
> SO, I throw out to you two questions....."what CD player works in your
> Pantera while mounted sideways and at a 30-45 degree angle
> upwards???? (I will be looking to modify my dash opening to accept a
> standard DIN unit.) I'm not really interested in a multiple CD player
> remotely mounted either....... BTDT.
> AND, if you have a Pioneer, does it work for CD's and if so, what
> model?
> So far I have heard of one Kenwood model that the owner reports works
> just fine.
> What say you??
> Thanks in advance!
> Steve
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 18:16:16 +0000 (UTC)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
> <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> ?I would say to send those wires to the circular file.?
>
> Bud
> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
>
> Guys,
>
> These are $150 Crane plug wires (that somebody gave me, new in the box, after he sold his Pantera and then found them left over afterwards).
>
> I had previously had a spark leak between the coil wire and a rubber heater hose (?) which was also surprising. The spark leaps right through the rubber connector. Electrical tape doesn't phase it either--it goes right through.
>
> My fix-it plan is to put a thick layer of rubber insulation material on the bottom of the air cleaner. It's possible energy is being conducted between the other wire that is hard up against the base of the air cleaner, but because there is no air gap it might not be visible....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:16, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was waiting to see flashing on the wire that was pinched!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 13:08 PM
>> To: De Tomaso Forum
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I have the
>> electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the garage,
>> but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night I had
>> to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through the
>> window when a flash caught my eye....
>>
>> This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it too....
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> I would say to send those wires to the circular file.
> Bud
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> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
> Guys,
> These are $150 Crane plug wires (that somebody gave me, new in the box,
> after he sold his Pantera and then found them left over afterwards).
> I had previously had a spark leak between the coil wire and a rubber
> heater hose (?) which was also surprising. The spark leaps right
> through the rubber connector. Electrical tape doesn't phase it
> either--it goes right through.
> My fix-it plan is to put a thick layer of rubber insulation material on
> the bottom of the air cleaner. It's possible energy is being conducted
> between the other wire that is hard up against the base of the air
> cleaner, but because there is no air gap it might not be visible....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:16, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> <[1]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was waiting to see flashing on the wire that was pinched!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera ignition miss diagnosis
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> > Guys,
> >
> > I've been struggling with Lori's Pantera for some time. I think I
> have the
> > electric choke and fast idle set perfectly, and it works fine in the
> garage,
> > but on the road it stumbles and just doesn't want to idle. Last night
> I had
> > to back it out of the garage in the dark. I was looking back through
> the
> > window when a flash caught my eye....
> >
> > This morning I fired it up with my iPhone so all of you could see it
> too....
> >
> > [3]https://youtu.be/3MYTQ5MH2gk
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> > Mike
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:19:38 -0400
> From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CD Players- What works in a Pantera?
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> It's weird, I haven't used a CD in a long time, but I've lost a couple
> of 200GB SD cards recently. Pandora and mp3s just sort of took over
> for me and I'm not really clear when that happened.
>
> You raise a really important point though, if you use CDs they are
> moving parts and their position is very important.
>
> My '78 BMW R100 has an 8 track player to Krako casset adapter to CD
> player cable to my 2003 vintage MP3 player but I think I'll be
> replacing the MP3 player with a bluetooth adapter.
>
> I'm not ready to abandon old technology, I just don't really want to
> use it properly :)
>
> sean
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Steve Liebenow <steven.liebenow at att.net> wrote:
>> Greetings! Need some help with radio selection......
>> Our 74 recently came to us without a radio of any sort. Just a big
>> ugly football shaped hole....for a two post radio. In my collection of
>> parts, I have "spare" Pioneer single CD capable models (removable face
>> plate) that proclaim in the instructions not to mount them above about
>> a 45 degree angle!
>> I have not yet tested this...need to find old Celine Dion CD first.....
>> I know that there are Bluetooth devices, plug-in storage devices,
>> wireless radio, etc that "can make my life easier" (tell that to IOS
>> 11 updaters!!!).......but I'm not all that yet. I pay enuf for phones,
>> internet, TV....that I really don't need or desire another multiple
>> hundreds of dollars investment just to get tunes. I can buy new AC
>> hoses.....with that money!!!! Then I can be "cool" and listen to "my
>> music"....
>> SO, I throw out to you two questions....."what CD player works in your
>> Pantera while mounted sideways and at a 30-45 degree angle
>> upwards???? (I will be looking to modify my dash opening to accept a
>> standard DIN unit.) I'm not really interested in a multiple CD player
>> remotely mounted either....... BTDT.
>> AND, if you have a Pioneer, does it work for CD's and if so, what
>> model?
>> So far I have heard of one Kenwood model that the owner reports works
>> just fine.
>> What say you??
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Steve
>>
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