[DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few years?

Sat Oct 14 13:20:32 EDT 2017

Why change a very good carburetor set up ? Luv my 750 DP.

CheersBill MooreCalgary 
-------- Original message --------From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> Date: 2017-10-14  11:06 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few years? 
Thanks, Ken and Jeff.. partially answering my own question I see FITech, MSD, and Holley all offer systems that appear to be the panacea. 

Roughly $1000 for just the unit, or $1200 with a fuel pump and complete installation kit. The reviews for the three seem to be similar – the majority of people are thrilled, but there’s a small but consistent minority that had serious problems. Cutting and pasting from reviews:

“ I received 2 defective units that would never sync up to the ECU and my final 3rd Sniper finally did work.”

“Quit running after 15 miles

Summit Racing Verified Purchase

My car ran beautifully at first then quit. Throttle body is not reading a rpm signal. All connections have been checked. I await return paper work to send the unit back.”

Most people are pretty pleased though. Some comments about installation being a little more complicated than promised. Any other firsthand feedback regarding installation on a Pantera? 

From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com] 
Sent: sábado, 14 de octubre de 2017 18:58
To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few years?

I think FAST, Holley, and MSD all have bolt on single 4V throttle body EFIs that practically tune themselves, but you will need am EFI fuel pump and I'm pretty sure a O2 sensor in the exhaust.  They all seem to have these for around $1,000.

Ken

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Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 5:52 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few years?

  What's the current state of advancement in the fuel injection world?

  Has someone perfected a bolt-on system that can substitute a 4bbl carb,

  can be installed in minutes, only requires a couple of wires and an

  exhaust bung, and that's it?

  It would automatically map itself by just driving around, and give

  absolutely crisp performance. It wouldn't require fiddling, and would

  work just as well as a carb that's perfectly, absolutely, dead-nuts on.

  Oh, and it would cost less than $50. Just kidding, but perhaps under

  $1000 for everything. Anyone have any first-hand experience?

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   Thanks, Ken and Jeff.. partially answering my own question I see
   FITech, MSD, and Holley all offer systems that appear to be the
   panacea.

   Roughly $1000 for just the unit, or $1200 with a fuel pump and complete
   installation kit. The reviews for the three seem to be similar - the
   majority of people are thrilled, but there's a small but consistent
   minority that had serious problems. Cutting and pasting from reviews:

   " I received 2 defective units that would never sync up to the ECU and
   my final 3rd Sniper finally did work."

"Quit running after 15 miles

   Summit Racing Summit Racing Verified Purchase

   My car ran beautifully at first then quit. Throttle body is not reading
   a rpm signal. All connections have been checked. I await return paper
   work to send the unit back."

   Most people are pretty pleased though. Some comments about installation
   being a little more complicated than promised. Any other firsthand
   feedback regarding installation on a Pantera?

   From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
   Sent: sabado, 14 de octubre de 2017 18:58
   To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few
   years?

   I think FAST, Holley, and MSD all have bolt on single 4V throttle body
   EFIs that practically tune themselves, but you will need am EFI fuel
   pump and I'm pretty sure a O2 sensor in the exhaust.  They all seem to
   have these for around $1,000.

   Ken

   _______________________________________________________________________

   From: Charles McCall <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 5:52 AM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few years?

     What's the current state of advancement in the fuel injection world?

     Has someone perfected a bolt-on system that can substitute a 4bbl
   carb,

     can be installed in minutes, only requires a couple of wires and an

     exhaust bung, and that's it?

     It would automatically map itself by just driving around, and give

     absolutely crisp performance. It wouldn't require fiddling, and would

     work just as well as a carb that's perfectly, absolutely, dead-nuts
   on.

     Oh, and it would cost less than $50. Just kidding, but perhaps under

     $1000 for everything. Anyone have any first-hand experience?

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   Why change a very good carburetor set up ?

   Luv my 750 DP.

   Cheers

   Bill Moore

   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   Date: 2017-10-14 11:06 AM (GMT-07:00)
   To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>,
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few
   years?

   Thanks, Ken and Jeff.. partially answering my own question I see
   FITech, MSD, and Holley all offer systems that appear to be the
   panacea.
   Roughly $1000 for just the unit, or $1200 with a fuel pump and complete
   installation kit. The reviews for the three seem to be similar - the
   majority of people are thrilled, but there's a small but consistent
   minority that had serious problems. Cutting and pasting from reviews:
   " I received 2 defective units that would never sync up to the ECU and
   my final 3rd Sniper finally did work."
   "Quit running after 15 miles
   Summit Racing Verified Purchase
   My car ran beautifully at first then quit. Throttle body is not reading
   a rpm signal. All connections have been checked. I await return paper
   work to send the unit back."
   Most people are pretty pleased though. Some comments about installation
   being a little more complicated than promised. Any other firsthand
   feedback regarding installation on a Pantera?
   From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
   Sent: sabado, 14 de octubre de 2017 18:58
   To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few
   years?
   I think FAST, Holley, and MSD all have bolt on single 4V throttle body
   EFIs that practically tune themselves, but you will need am EFI fuel
   pump and I'm pretty sure a O2 sensor in the exhaust.  They all seem to
   have these for around $1,000.
   Ken
     _____
   From: Charles McCall < <mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   To:  <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 5:52 AM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few years?
     What's the current state of advancement in the fuel injection world?
     Has someone perfected a bolt-on system that can substitute a 4bbl
   carb,
     can be installed in minutes, only requires a couple of wires and an
     exhaust bung, and that's it?
     It would automatically map itself by just driving around, and give
     absolutely crisp performance. It wouldn't require fiddling, and would
     work just as well as a carb that's perfectly, absolutely, dead-nuts
   on.
     Oh, and it would cost less than $50. Just kidding, but perhaps under
     $1000 for everything. Anyone have any first-hand experience?
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      Thanks, Ken and Jeff.. partially answering my own question I see
      FITech, MSD, and Holley all offer systems that appear to be the
      panacea.
      Roughly $1000 for just the unit, or $1200 with a fuel pump and
   complete
      installation kit. The reviews for the three seem to be similar - the
      majority of people are thrilled, but there's a small but consistent
      minority that had serious problems. Cutting and pasting from
   reviews:
      " I received 2 defective units that would never sync up to the ECU
   and
      my final 3rd Sniper finally did work."
   "Quit running after 15 miles
      Summit Racing Summit Racing Verified Purchase
      My car ran beautifully at first then quit. Throttle body is not
   reading
      a rpm signal. All connections have been checked. I await return
   paper
      work to send the unit back."
      Most people are pretty pleased though. Some comments about
   installation
      being a little more complicated than promised. Any other firsthand
      feedback regarding installation on a Pantera?
      From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
      Sent: sabado, 14 de octubre de 2017 18:58
      To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
      detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few
      years?
      I think FAST, Holley, and MSD all have bolt on single 4V throttle
   body
      EFIs that practically tune themselves, but you will need am EFI fuel
      pump and I'm pretty sure a O2 sensor in the exhaust.  They all seem
   to
      have these for around $1,000.
      Ken

   _______________________________________________________________________
      From: Charles McCall <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
      To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 5:52 AM
      Subject: [DeTomaso] How much has EFI advanced over the past few
   years?
        What's the current state of advancement in the fuel injection
   world?
        Has someone perfected a bolt-on system that can substitute a 4bbl
      carb,
        can be installed in minutes, only requires a couple of wires and
   an
        exhaust bung, and that's it?
        It would automatically map itself by just driving around, and give
        absolutely crisp performance. It wouldn't require fiddling, and
   would
        work just as well as a carb that's perfectly, absolutely,
   dead-nuts
      on.
        Oh, and it would cost less than $50. Just kidding, but perhaps
   under
        $1000 for everything. Anyone have any first-hand experience?
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