[DeTomaso] [SDP] Targa Conversion (now dogbone debate)

audionut at hushmail.com audionut at hushmail.com
Tue Oct 3 16:21:09 EDT 2017


Well, one thing we can safely surmise about this yellow monstrosity is
that it is definitely not slow.  Why would someone spend a ton of cash
on a motor (big-ass 180 headers w/no discernible mufflers) just to
choke it with a crap air filter? I suppose it's possible....
especially given the confusing nature of this build, but to me it just
seems unlikely. It may not be the best air filter for racing
applications, but the dogbone definitely flows plenty of air.   
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On October 3, 2017 at 6:19 AM, "Julian Kift"  wrote:      

	Like a lot in Space City the website may have been dampened by
Harvey...... It was in a Spring 05 newsletter and there was reportedly
a 1HP gain by completely removing the air filter over using it. 
	Julian    
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 From: DeTomaso  on behalf of Gray Gregory 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 3:55 AM
 To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa
Conversion      Yes you remember correctly. Years ago SCPOCA had a
dyno day and my car with a 377 stroker was run with and w/o the dog
bone air cleaner. I can't remember the exact numbers but the air
cleaner did perform very well. There may still be  a write up about
the event on the SCPOCA web site?
 Gray
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Conversion
 _And isn't that dogbone type air filter the one that doesn't flow
enough even for a stock engine at high revs? __ _If I remember
correctly, the dogbone was put on a dyno some years back and actually
proved itself to be one of the better air filters in use on  our
Panteras. Mine works great on my stock 73L with Larry's QuickFuel 650
DP.  I love the funky thing. People are always saying this about the
 dogbone--  maybe to some folks it just looks too weird to efficiently
flow air. _ _  Sent using Hushmail On October 2, 2017 at 5:49 PM,
"Pantdino via DeTomaso"  wrote:Reminds me of the Kustom Kars by George
Barris in the 60's and 70's, like the Munstermobile  and Batmobile. 
And isn't that dogbone type air filter the one that doesn't flow
enough even for a stock engine at high revs?
 Finally, is that front end really going to slice thru the air
efficiently, or at like a giant air dam?
 Jim
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Emiliano Ballejos
 To: Ed Mendez
 Cc: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
; Bruce Singer ; San Diego Panteras ; gt40
 Sent: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 9:00 am
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa
Conversion
 I think so but apparently he or she blind. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 > On Oct 2, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Ed Mendez  wrote:
 > 
 > The commentary in the video is hilarious.
 > 
 > It was done by expert craftsman... 
 > 
 > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
 > 
 >> On Oct 1, 2017, at 23:24, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
 >> 
 >> You mean they couldn't stick on one of those butt ugly Lexus
 "catfish mouth" front ends on it?!!
 >> 
 >> -----Original Message----- From: Ed Mendez
 >> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:08 PM
 >> To: San Diego Panteras ; DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com ; Bruce Singer
 >> Subject: [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa Conversion
 >> 
 >> I feel like vomiting.
 >> 
 >> https://youtu.be/ROsNDOXP6lg
 >> 
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   Well, one thing we can safely surmise about this yellow monstrosity is
   that it is definitely not slow.  Why would someone spend a ton of cash
   on a motor (big-ass 180 headers w/no discernible mufflers) just to
   choke it with a crap air filter?



   I suppose it's possible.... especially given the confusing nature of
   this build, but to me it just seems unlikely.



   It may not be the best air filter for racing applications, but the
   dogbone definitely flows plenty of air.



   Sent using Hushmail
   On October 3, 2017 at 6:19 AM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

   Like a lot in Space City the website may have been dampened by
   Harvey...... It was in a Spring 05 newsletter and there was
   reportedly a 1HP gain by completely removing the air filter over using
   it.

   Julian
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 3:55 AM
   To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa
   Conversion

   Yes you remember correctly. Years ago SCPOCA had a dyno day and my car
   with a 377 stroker was run with and w/o the dog bone air cleaner. I
   can't remember the exact numbers but the air cleaner did perform very
   well. There may still be a write up about the event on the SCPOCA web
   site?
   Gray
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   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of audionut at hushmail.com
   Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 8:36 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa
   Conversion
   _And isn't that dogbone type air filter the one that doesn't flow
   enough even for a stock engine at high revs? __ _If I remember
   correctly, the dogbone was put on a dyno some years back and actually
   proved itself to be one of the better air filters in use on our
   Panteras. Mine works great on my stock 73L with Larry's QuickFuel 650
   DP.  I love the funky thing. People are always saying this about the
   dogbone--  maybe to some folks it just looks too weird to efficiently
   flow air. _ _  Sent using Hushmail On October 2, 2017 at 5:49 PM,
   "Pantdino via DeTomaso"  wrote:Reminds me of the Kustom Kars by George
   Barris in the 60's and 70's, like the Munstermobile and Batmobile.  And
   isn't that dogbone type air filter the one that doesn't flow enough
   even for a stock engine at high revs?
   Finally, is that front end really going to slice thru the air
   efficiently, or at like a giant air dam?
   Jim
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Emiliano Ballejos
   To: Ed Mendez
   Cc: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com ;
   Bruce Singer ; San Diego Panteras ; gt40
   Sent: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 9:00 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa
   Conversion
   I think so but apparently he or she blind.
   Sent from my iPhone
   > On Oct 2, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Ed Mendez  wrote:
   >
   > The commentary in the video is hilarious.
   >
   > It was done by expert craftsman...
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
   >
   >> On Oct 1, 2017, at 23:24, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
   >>
   >> You mean they couldn't stick on one of those butt ugly Lexus
   "catfish mouth" front ends on it?!!
   >>
   >> -----Original Message----- From: Ed Mendez
   >> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:08 PM
   >> To: San Diego Panteras ; DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com ; Bruce Singer
   >> Subject: [SDP] 1973 DeTomaso Pantera Group 4 Targa Conversion
   >>
   >> I feel like vomiting.
   >>
   >> [1]https://youtu.be/ROsNDOXP6lg
   >>
   >>
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